Bash Riprock Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 While not football, it is still appropriate given the topics of sportsmanship, coaching and leadership. Its been surprisingly quiet on this forum and couldn't help from wondering why. Was the punishment handed down by The Big 10/University of Michigan appropriate in the Juwan Howard case? 5 games suspension without pay (remainder of the regular season) and a $40K fine. 3 players suspended for 1 game. Hearing some advocating the ceasing of the handshake line at the games end. (I have to admit...I align with Tom Izzo's stance) Thoughts?? Quote
DE Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 It is being discussed in the Michigan vs. Wisconsin in the college basketball thread. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 22, 2022 Author Posted February 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, DE said: It is being discussed in the Michigan vs. Wisconsin in the college basketball thread. Sorry...I am not a member I wasn't thinking this was tied to a single sport...but I am good if the moderators delete this thread. I was wondering why it wasn't being discussed. Thanks Quote
gonzoron Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Sorry...I am not a member I wasn't thinking this was tied to a single sport...but I am good if the moderators delete this thread. I was wondering why it wasn't being discussed. Thanks It's open to all GID members. 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Sorry...I am not a member I wasn't thinking this was tied to a single sport...but I am good if the moderators delete this thread. I was wondering why it wasn't being discussed. Thanks Just a tip: I open the GID to the 'Activity' tab on my computer. That way it shows all recent activity in the threads in all Forums and public 'clubs'. On your phone, there is a 'page' button in the blue bar under the main header beside the '+' button. If you press that 'page' button, it will bring up the All Activity list. 1 Quote
DE Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said: Sorry...I am not a member I wasn't thinking this was tied to a single sport...but I am good if the moderators delete this thread. I was wondering why it wasn't being discussed. Thanks No need to apologize my friend. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 22, 2022 Author Posted February 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, DE said: No need to apologize my friend. I learned some things from you and Gonzo today about the forum.....all in all, a good day!! Just don't want to be redundant.... 2 Quote
BTF Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: While not football, it is still appropriate given the topics of sportsmanship, coaching and leadership. Its been surprisingly quiet on this forum and couldn't help from wondering why. Was the punishment handed down by The Big 10/University of Michigan appropriate in the Juwan Howard case? 5 games suspension without pay (remainder of the regular season) and a $40K fine. 3 players suspended for 1 game. Hearing some advocating the ceasing of the handshake line at the games end. (I have to admit...I align with Tom Izzo's stance) Thoughts?? I honestly thought he would be fired. What university wants a coach representing them who strikes another coach in the face? Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 23, 2022 Author Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, BTF said: I honestly thought he would be fired. What university wants a coach representing them who strikes another coach in the face? I didn’t think it would land as a firing until his post game conference and then learning about his threat toward the Maryland head coach the previous year. I believe he’s very fortunate and hope he learns and grows from this horrible event. He needs to get his emotions under control. Quote
BTF Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: I didn’t think it would land as a firing until his post game conference and then learning about his threat toward the Maryland head coach the previous year. I believe he’s very fortunate and hope he learns and grows from this horrible event. He needs to get his emotions under control. Michigan seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one. Quote
DE Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, BTF said: Michigan seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one. How come? Quote
BTF Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, DE said: How come? Lol. I'll plead the fifth. Quote
temptation Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 Many on the university’s board of regents wanted him terminated but Michigan’s AD stuck his neck out there and convinced them to reconsider. That being said, I believe anything closely resembling strike three means they are both packing their bags. 1 Quote
DE Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 8 hours ago, BTF said: Lol. I'll plead the fifth. Ahh. Gotcha. Quote
gonzoron Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 Howard has been a thug since his playing days. He's not likely to change now. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 23, 2022 Author Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, gonzoron said: Howard has been a thug since his playing days. He's not likely to change now. I honestly did not know that....I thought his reputation in the NBA was pretty solid. I didn't remember any major outburts, but I may be missing the obvious. I believe he left Michigan early, but earned his degree going to school, while playing ball, which I respected very much. https://www.mitchalbom.com/juwans-promisewhile-playing-in-nbarookie-finishes-degree-from-michigan/ Because I had seen or heard of these outbursts before learning about his issue last year during the Big 10 tournament, I couldn't help from wondering if the stresses from coaching were getting to him and he is simply struggling managing this role. Not making any excuses for Howard....perhaps wrongly, but I thought this recent episodes were signs of changing behavior. Quote
BTF Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 A major element of this is the fact that he is a former player and alumni of the school. I'm sure he was and still is a donor as well. That plays a part when determining whether or not a coach is let go. LaVall Jordan at Butler is a case in point. If he weren't an alumni, he would have been fired by now. Quote
temptation Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, gonzoron said: Howard has been a thug since his playing days. He's not likely to change now. Evidence/citation? Quote
DE Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, temptation said: Evidence/citation? Just more racist talk. Again, very sad. Quote
Goose Liver Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 Not to stir the pot... what defines a thug? Quote
temptation Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Goose Liver said: Not to stir the pot... what defines a thug? @gonzoron does apparently. I'd call Juwan hot headed or temperamental, but I'll wait for evidence that he is "a thug." Clock is ticking... Quote
ragdoll Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Goose Liver said: Not to stir the pot... what defines a thug? 1 Quote
DE Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, temptation said: @gonzoron does apparently. I'd call Juwan hot headed or temperamental, but I'll wait for evidence that he is "a thug." Clock is ticking... They just can't help themselves. He sure painted himself into a corner, didn't he? Quote
gonzoron Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: I honestly did not know that....I thought his reputation in the NBA was pretty solid. There were incidents involving punches thrown in his NBA career resulting in fines and game suspensions. At least 2 against the Pacers alone. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 23, 2022 Author Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, gonzoron said: There were incidents involving punches thrown in his NBA career resulting in fines and game suspensions. At least 2 against the Pacers alone. not doubting you...I just can't remember. But I'm not a big NBA fan. Perhaps anger management issues is a trend..... Edited February 23, 2022 by Bash Riprock Quote
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