temptation Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Discuss. https://247sports.com/college/ucla/Article/REPORT-UCLA-and-USC-Could-Leave-for-Big-Ten-As-Early-as-2024-189450203/Amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Ivan Renko’s Twitter feed has nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said: Ivan Renko’s Twitter feed has nothing. Isn’t he Manti Teo’s girlfriend? @Bobref? @Irishman? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Not a fan at all. The only thing that makes sense is the TV market. But, these 2 teams have not really been competitive in the PAC 12; which, based on history, has not really been in the championship picture in a long time. I know national media and pollsters try to make it so, but it just does not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Stupid just have everyone go independent like nd break away from the ncaa and make football it’s own entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: Stupid just have everyone go independent like nd break away from the ncaa and make football it’s own entity. I got a feeling a break from the NCAA may be coming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 If true BTN gets west coast media market, think in terms of BTN in TV’s in LA County. If the. If Big Ten pulls this off, they are in the two largest media markets in the Western Hemisphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said: If true BTN gets west coast media market, think in terms of BTN in TV’s in LA County. If the. If Big Ten pulls this off, they are in the two largest media markets in the Western Hemisphere. Does it matter though most good big ten games are on abc/espn where as btn gets northwestern Rutgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 Since the two LA schools actually reached out to the Big Ten and not the other way around, will a strongly worded letter be forthcoming from the PAC 12 accusing USC and UCLA of bigotry? Asking for a friend… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Irishman said: I got a feeling a break from the NCAA may be coming. Agreed. Highly doubt just USC and UCLA are coming. At this point it seems those running the show are making strategic moves that seem odd on the surface as they strategize a new league. Oklahoma and Texas willingly making their lives harder? USC and UCLA of all teams to the Big Ten? The split is inevitable and at that point it’s just a matter of who gets invited to the super conferences of B1G and SEC. At that point I would expect them to disband into different cohorts that could mix teams from different historical conferences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 Oregon and Washington have also applied… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Whiting89 said: Does it matter though most good big ten games are on abc/espn where as btn gets northwestern Rutgers That’s not the point, the point is BTN being subscribed to on TV’s in LA County. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 In the inevitable rearrangement that will result in 4 mega-conferences, the PAC 12 will be the one unable to find a chair when the music stops. It will cease to exist. USC & UCLA are just trying to get ahead of it … like Texas & Oklahoma did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said: That’s not the point, the point is BTN being subscribed to on TV’s in LA County. Yeah. Ratings and who is on BTN don’t matter. All that matters is BTN being added to cable packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Bobref said: In the inevitable rearrangement that will result in 4 mega-conferences, the PAC 12 will be the one unable to find a chair when the music stops. It will cease to exist. USC & UCLA are just trying to get ahead of it … like Texas & Oklahoma did. Rest of the Pac 12 better get a move on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, temptation said: Rest of the Pac 12 better get a move on it. Now that it’s started, I expect the pace will accelerate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesOnTheProwl Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Hearing chatter of ND to the big ten also? Any truth to this? Thought they were tied to the ACC for quite a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, WolvesOnTheProwl said: Hearing chatter of ND to the big ten also? Any truth to this? Thought they were tied to the ACC for quite a few years I would think they would go to the ACC. As far as the PAC 12, I think the remaining teams there and the ones left in the Big 12 will combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Irishman said: I would think they would go to the ACC. As far as the PAC 12, I think the remaining teams there and the ones left in the Big 12 will combine. This all seems plausible, but I think plausibility is out the window at this point. The Big Ten is likely going to bring in somebody out of Oregon, Washington, Arizona State and Arizona. I'm sure they're still working on the white whales of North Carolina and Virginia. At some point Florida State, Miami, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and yes even Notre Dame will be forced into picking a side. Ultimately, I understand why it's assumed the ACC and left overs of the Big 12/Pac 12 will be the last 2 super conferences next to the Big Ten and SEC. But, is two watered down leagues a reality? The Big Ten and SEC will still hold all of the invitations and decide who gets into the party, which makes those leagues irrelevant. That's why I strongly feel we're heading towards two super conferences that just break away from everyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Irishman said: I would think they would go to the ACC. As far as the PAC 12, I think the remaining teams there and the ones left in the Big 12 will combine. The Big Ten will likely flex out to 20 schools. The Tier 1 schools (OU/TX/USC/UCLA) are finding new homes in the BT and SEC. The Tier 2 schools Wash St/Ore St/Ok State/Kansas St/Ia State ) will wind up in the T2 conferences (ACC/B120 I think if the Big 10 adds 4 more to get to 20, it will be one of the following two combinations : 1: Washington/Oregon/ND/Kansas 2: North carolina/Virginia/ND/Kansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, WolvesOnTheProwl said: Hearing chatter of ND to the big ten also? Any truth to this? Thought they were tied to the ACC for quite a few years The Big Ten, Pac 12, and ACC formed an alliance last summer that was just nuked up by the Big Ten. At this point you can't trust anything you think you know about college athletics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Boilernation said: Yeah. Ratings and who is on BTN don’t matter. All that matters is BTN being added to cable packages. At some point but not now. My guess is non-west coast alums will love to be able to catch a 7:00pm tip-off on BTN. UCLA/USC bring a ton on content to the deal as well, seems like a great marriage for soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, DT said: The Big Ten will likely flex out to 20 schools. The Tier 1 schools (OU/TX/USC/UCLA) are finding new homes in the BT and SEC. The Tier 2 schools Wash St/Ore St/Ok State/Kansas St/Ia State ) will wind up in the T2 conferences (ACC/B120 I think if the Big 10 adds 4 more to get to 20, it will be one of the following two combinations : 1: Washington/Oregon/ND/Kansas 2: North carolina/Virginia/ND/Kansas I could end up being wrong, but I think Kansas has no value. Their academics aren't Pac 12/ACC caliber, the only valuable TV market they provide is Kansas City, and they are basically just a men's basketball school. I don't see a place at mega conference table for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, WolvesOnTheProwl said: Hearing chatter of ND to the big ten also? Any truth to this? Thought they were tied to the ACC for quite a few years Won’t happen but the selfish side of me would love to watch the irony of the Big Ten saying “no thanks.” Edited July 1, 2022 by temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, temptation said: Won’t happen but the selfish side of me would love to watch the irony of the Big Ten saying “no thanks.” Haha...that would be great. They've always relished the idea of being unique with their standalone NBC deal and independent football schedule. Force them into the Big Ten, SEC, or a bandaged ACC for football and now they're just like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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