BTF Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, US31 said: Don’t assume I think it’s a bad thing at all….but I think it’s hypocritical to claim you are serving both goals. I would agree that maintaining the integrity of an academic institution and winning a national championship don't go hand in hand. But they've proved they can play in a big payout game and still hold onto their academic reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, BTF said: I'm actually good with a bunch of kids who can coherently answer a question in the post game interviews. And Freeman did ink twenty 4-star players. Smart kid + 4-star athlete = playoff opportunity/big payout game. I'm not sure Notre Dame is willing to lower their standard to win the whole thing. They still consider themselves an academic university. After all, it is college. They will never do that. 1 hour ago, US31 said: Don’t assume I think it’s a bad thing at all….but I think it’s hypocritical to claim you are serving both goals. “A man’s reach should exceed his grasp … or what’s a heaven for?” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 Front runner for the OC job is now Andy Ludwig, OC at Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psaboy Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 1/2/2023 at 11:15 AM, WolvesOnTheProwl said: 5 road games in a row will result in an expected lose, may be two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Figuring out how to replace Tommy Rees is small potatoes compared to the dilemma of replacing Harry Hiestand. If the Irish do land Andy Ludwig, then the joke is on Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHJIrish Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, BTF said: Figuring out how to replace Tommy Rees is small potatoes compared to the dilemma of replacing Harry Hiestand. If the Irish do land Andy Ludwig, then the joke is on Alabama. I would have to agree wholeheartedly. Harry is a rock, but it's sort of strange that he waited so long to make the decision to retire. I'm sure he has good reasons, and wanting to watch his kids play is a legitimate reason for his retirement. I wish him good luck and also hope the Irish can find an adequate replacement. I'm sure they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 hours ago, BTF said: Figuring out how to replace Tommy Rees is small potatoes compared to the dilemma of replacing Harry Hiestand. If the Irish do land Andy Ludwig, then the joke is on Alabama. Ludwig says no thanks…getting a bit comical at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesOnTheProwl Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 9 hours ago, temptation said: Ludwig says no thanks…getting a bit comical at this point. I thought I heard that Rees made 2.5m last year as NDs OC. Ludwig can’t or won’t come because of his buyout from Utah. So, and maybe i understand this wrong, the Irish are late to the NIL game and won’t pony up for assistant coaches. Not a great recipe for success in this day and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesOnTheProwl Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 FYI (and was curious) but I just read Ludwig’s buyout is 2.8 million from Utah. Guess it’s ok to pay Charlie Weis to stay away for 10 years or whatever it was but not pay that one lump sum to get the guy you wanted to run the current offense. A bit frustrating to say the least and more importantly where do they turn now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 13 hours ago, temptation said: Ludwig says no thanks…getting a bit comical at this point. What about sports isn't comical anymore? Just now, BTF said: What about sports isn't comical anymore? I retract. There is still some purity left in high school game. The next two levels become a clown show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, BTF said: What about sports isn't comical anymore? I retract. There is still some purity left in high school game. The next two levels become a clown show. Just comical from afar and without a dog in the fight that it’s taken this long for ND to get their guy. Edited February 14 by temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, temptation said: Just comical from afar and without a dog in the fight that it’s taken this long for ND to get their guy. People like to find a reason to pick on the Irish. They'll find someone. Still one of the Top 10 jobs in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 15 minutes ago, BTF said: People like to find a reason to pick on the Irish. They'll find someone. Still one of the Top 10 jobs in the country. Furthermore, none of this has impacted incoming recruits, notably Sam Hartman and CJ Carr. Kids seem to be drawn to Marcus Freeman. Future looks bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 17 minutes ago, BTF said: People like to find a reason to pick on the Irish. They'll find someone. Still one of the Top 10 jobs in the country. I realize that, but do others? Depends on priorities I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Turns out Andy Ludwig accepted the position, then ND refused to pay the 2.8m buyout. So the laughable part (Temp)? It's not that high profile coaches don't want the position, as you were suggesting. It's that ND is refusing to pay what it takes to get them there. Are coordinators a dime a dozen? Only as good as their head coach allows them to be? Maybe that's what the ND administration thinks. Maybe ND's recent success had more to do with having arguably the best coach in the country stick around for a decade and not necessarily the idea that they are a strong program like they were pre 90's. I guess we'll find out how good of a coach Freeman is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, BTF said: Turns out Andy Ludwig accepted the position, then ND refused to pay the 2.8m buyout. So the laughable part (Temp)? It's not that high profile coaches don't want the position, as you were suggesting. It's that ND is refusing to pay what it takes to get them there. Are coordinators a dime a dozen? Only as good as their head coach allows them to be? Maybe that's what the ND administration thinks. Maybe ND's recent success had more to do with having arguably the best coach in the country stick around for a decade and not necessarily the idea that they are a strong program like they were pre 90's. I guess we'll find out how good of a coach Freeman is now. Yikes. I can relate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 52 minutes ago, temptation said: Yikes. I can relate. Good coaches seem to maintain success regardless of who their coordinators are. Agree or disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 49 minutes ago, BTF said: Good coaches seem to maintain success regardless of who their coordinators are. Agree or disagree? Agree for the most part. But to not make money consistent with the market AND have tighter recruiting restrictions, I am not so sure the job is desirable as you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 49 minutes ago, temptation said: Agree for the most part. But to not make money consistent with the market AND have tighter recruiting restrictions, I am not so sure the job is desirable as you think. If best recruits + highest pay = most desirable job, then yeah, Notre Dame probably ranks somewhere around 10-15. But that's just 75% of the coaches out there. The other 25% percent might look at other things, like the moral integrity of a program. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesOnTheProwl Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Looks like Gino Guidugli as new qb coach and Gerald Parker as the OC altho nothing official yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, BTF said: If best recruits + highest pay = most desirable job, then yeah, Notre Dame probably ranks somewhere around 10-15. But that's just 75% of the coaches out there. The other 25% percent might look at other things, like the moral integrity of a program. Yeah, I got a wake up call in the late 2000s/early 2010s about how desirable my favorite programs head coaching job was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesOnTheProwl Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, WolvesOnTheProwl said: Looks like Gino Guidugli as new qb coach and Gerald Parker as the OC altho nothing official yet. Gerad Parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Parker and Freeman reunited from original Boiler Hazel days, only 2 who WERE NOT a dumpster fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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