Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar

[temptation]

31 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

If you see nothing wrong how a college coach of a major national program acted, it speaks volumes.  Stop trying to justify ridiculous, inmature behavior out of a coach because its your favorite team....

Point to me other college or pro coaches acting this way after a win.  Shake hands, walk off the field and celebrate with your team.  Be a man, not a child.

Yawn.  Keep clutching your pearls.

Edited November 28, 2023 by temptation

[Grover]

What's the status on the extension?

[temptation]

2 hours ago, Grover said:

What's the status on the extension?

Folks still confident its forthcoming and the NCAA investigation rumored to be finishing up this month and the NOA submitted.

Only wrench (a good one) I could see holding it up is if Jim wins the national title on January 9th and moves on to other goals.

Don't tell the national media that though.  

[Bash Riprock]

21 minutes ago, temptation said:

Folks still confident its forthcoming and the NCAA investigation rumored to be finishing up this month and the NOA submitted.

Only wrench (a good one) I could see holding it up is if Jim wins the national title on January 9th and moves on to other goals.

Don't tell the national media that though.  

Seems Bears and Panthers getting more serious.  The cheater's days are limited in Ann Arbor.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jim-harbaugh-rumors-these-two-nfl-teams-are-already-discussing-michigan-coach-as-potential-hire-per-report/

 

[temptation]

14 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Seems Bears and Panthers getting more serious.  The cheater's days are limited in Ann Arbor.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jim-harbaugh-rumors-these-two-nfl-teams-are-already-discussing-michigan-coach-as-potential-hire-per-report/

 

Bears and Panthers SHOWING more interest?  Sure.  You think this dude is going to work for Kevin Warren?  C'mon.  

Its surely that time of year.  But at this point, the interest is all one-sided.

Last Saturday was a HUGE weekend for recruits in Ann Arbor and all of the usual "insiders" have pegged nearly a half-dozen predictions for some big time talent that will be committing soon...you might want to look up what Jim told them.

 

[temptation]

https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/2023/12/01/sweet-revenge-michigan-football-1-win-away-from-big-ten-commissioners-worst-nightmare/

[Coach Nowlin]

On 12/1/2023 at 11:31 AM, temptation said:

 

Last Saturday was a HUGE weekend for recruits in Ann Arbor and all of the usual "insiders" have pegged nearly a half-dozen predictions for some big time talent that will be committing soon...you might want to look up what Jim told them.

 

Not comparing Jeff Brohm to your beloved JIM, but what do you think Brohm was telling recruits ALL OF DECEMBER and even, wait for it, are you waiting??   literally 14 HOURS prior to accepting and announcing L'ville when he sat in players Living Rooms.......

[temptation]

17 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Not comparing Jeff Brohm to your beloved JIM, but what do you think Brohm was telling recruits ALL OF DECEMBER and even, wait for it, are you waiting??   literally 14 HOURS prior to accepting and announcing L'ville when he sat in players Living Rooms.......

Difference…Jeff Brohm was heading BACK to his alma mater…Jim Harbaugh is already coaching at his.

[Coach Nowlin]

Remove School, it's what they ALL DO, literally ALL of them on the recruiting trail.  From now until coach announcing their new gig tell all their recruits, going nowhere, et. al.   Until they are.  Then they tell them, hey I have room here, or no sorry have to move on.   Rinse Repeat 

[temptation]

On 11/27/2023 at 6:58 PM, Bash Riprock said:

Nothing like a coach being a mature “leader of men”.  Didn’t think it was possible to dislike a program more than OHIO….

 

Here is one Indiana’s new “leaders of men”…

Man, life comes at you fast huh @Bash Riprock?

You’re obviously gonna bring the same energy and level of outrage you did with Minter I assume?

[Bash Riprock]

3 hours ago, temptation said:

Here is one Indiana’s new “leaders of men”…

Man, life comes at you fast huh @Bash Riprock?

You’re obviously gonna bring the same energy and level of outrage you did with Minter I assume?

Absolutely. Hope that stuff doesn’t happen at IU. 
 

Good enough for you???  You happy??

[temptation]

17 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Absolutely. Hope that stuff doesn’t happen at IU. 
 

Good enough for you???  You happy??

Getting there.  Just asking for consistency, that’s all.

Which “cheater” you rooting for in Pasadena?

[Boilernation]

On 12/1/2023 at 12:31 PM, temptation said:

Bears and Panthers SHOWING more interest?  Sure.  You think this dude is going to work for Kevin Warren?  C'mon.  

 

 

Harbaugh probably dislikes every suit in the NFL and they all probably dislike him as well. Warren will take Harbaugh to win. Harbaugh would put up with Warren to be in Chicago if that's what where he desires to be. 

[temptation]

12 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

Harbaugh probably dislikes every suit in the NFL and they all probably dislike him as well. Warren will take Harbaugh to win. Harbaugh would put up with Warren to be in Chicago if that's what where he desires to be. 

But its not.

[Boilernation]

35 minutes ago, temptation said:

But its not.

You thinking he's staying in Ann Arbor? 

[temptation]

9 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

You thinking he's staying in Ann Arbor? 

90+% chance...with permission to change my mind if Michigan wins two more games.

[Bobref]

[Bash Riprock]

Looks like Jimmy H. has hired Bart Simpson......see 2nd video below and attachment below

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2023 by Bash Riprock

[Bash Riprock]

[temptation]

4 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

Let’s see if Michigan can win Monday before we start calling Harbaugh a goat.

Pump the brakes now.

[temptation]

11 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

Imagine being so triggered by a “sign stealing scandal” that you attempt to label Jim Harbaugh as the cheater in a photo next to Nick Saban.

Need I remind you, Saban coaches in the $EC which stands for “surely everyone cheats” or “send everyone cash.”

Its just swept under the rug because as they say…in the SEC…it just means more.

A bit dated, but a list of conversation topics for your reading pleasure.

The have a car program:

https://247sports.com/college/usc/Board/29/Contents/Alabamas-Recruiting-Dominance-Continues-Wow-50860219/

Their players accept money from runners:

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Five Southeastern Conference football players, including former Alabama All-American tackle D.J. Fluker, allegedly received impermissible benefits prior to completing their collegiate careers. According to a Yahoo! Sports report, former Alabama defensive end Luther Davis acted as an intermediary between the players and multiple NFL agents and financial advisers. The report says Davis funneled money and benefits totaling $45,500 to Fluker, Tennessee starting defensive end Maurice Couch, former Volunteers quarterback Tyler Bray, and former Mississippi State playersFletcher Cox and Chad Bumphis. The allegations would violate NCAA bylaw 12.3.1.2, which prohibits athletes from receiving extra benefits from prospective agents or marketing representatives. The violation could impact Fluker's eligibility and potentially the Alabama wins he participated in, including the 2012 Discover BCS National Championship. A second Yahoo! Sports report alleges that former Alabama safety Mark Barron accepted money while he was recovering from a shoulder injury as a junior in 2011 that kept him from declaring for the NFL draft. Text messages obtained by the website show that Barron was asked to repay money after signing with a competing sports agency. Alabama coach Nick Saban said Wednesday he supports the school's compliance department and then refused to answer further questions on the matter.

They've been accused of paying players by NFL agents:

Sports agent Ralph Cindrich was asked about the harsh penalties the NCAA brought down on Penn State and whether he agreed with them or not. He did hammer the NCAA for their decision making, calling NCAA president Mark Emmert a “bozo”, but he sidetracked, accusing Alabama coach Nick Saban of cheating. Cindrich was asked who is monitoring the NCAA, and he had the following to say: “That’s a very good question,” he said. “No one’s watching them. You want to know who’s watching them? Nick Saban. You want to trust Nick Saban? I have enough on Saban right now – and I realize this stuff gets out, and I also realize the truth is a defense. I know what goes on in college football, so cut me a break. …” “Everybody has something on Nick Saban, for God’s sake,” Cindrich said. “And if he has a problem with anything I say, come on after me, big guy.” Cindrich was then asked if Alabama players are paid to play football for the Tide. “Oh come on. “When you get these guys down and you get them under oath, they’ll tell you that. Sure. The statute of limitations has probably run as far as any criminality was involved to what I was relating to Saban, but I was involved in it. I know what he tried to do. I know what he tried to cover up. If he wants to stand up and say something, I’ll bring that up. If it’s out of time, I’ll go to the nearest agent I know, and I’ll bring up about a dozen things that are in time, because that’s the way he and most of the big-time schools, particularly in the SEC, operate.“

Other coaches in college football think he's cheating:

"If you had the No. 1 recruiting class in the country every year [you'd win like Nick Saban]," an anonymous coach told Chip Patterson of CBSSports.com. "He shows up at every single game with a better roster than the teams he's playing." If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country," the coach added. "It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."

Their players have taken money from coaches on staff:

Back in the old days – say 2011 – the University of Alabama might be nervous after another report of a star player receiving an extra benefit in violation of NCAA rules. 
On Thursday, it was word from TideSports.com that assistant strength and conditioning coach Corey Harris was placed on administrative leave for providing a loan over the summer to star safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. The report also says Harris was found by the Alabama compliance department to have ties to a sports agent. It was just Wednesday that Clinton-Dix was suspended indefinitely for an undisclosed violation of team rules. These aren't outside allegations. These are the conclusions of the school itself. This comes on the heels of last month's Yahoo! Sports detailed story about how former player Luther Davis had ties to sports agents and financial planners and provided a series of "impermissible benefits" to star lineman D.J. Fluker, now of the San Diego Chargers, among other SEC players. The school is looking into that one. That's smoke from two sports agent stories on top of each other, one coming from a currently employed staff member. Predicting the actions of the ever-unpredictable NCAA is always fraught with danger. But back when the NCAA had a full, aggressive enforcement staff, when it still liked flexing its muscles, when it wasn't under such assault from lawyers and the public alike – you know a couple years ago – it stands to reason it would've sent a team to Tuscaloosa, Ala., to take a look at the Crimson Tide. 

Their players have been accused of taking banned NCAA substances:

A number of players from the 2012 national championship Alabama football team reportedly used the same deer-antler spray that Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis allegedly used this season. The spray contains IGF-1, a substance banned by the NFL and NCAA. Christopher Key, co-owner of the company that provides the spray, toldESPN's Joe Schad on Wednesday that he sold the bottles to Alabama's players and personally witnessed five of them spray it in their mouths. The company, Sports with Alternatives to Steroids, or "S.W.A.T.T." is based in Alabama and Key said he sold approximately 40 bottles in total to members of Alabama's football team; 20 of those bottles were purchased by players at a New Orleans hotel room as the team prepared for the BCS national championship game against LSU last year, and then another 20 bottles were sold to members of the team at the apartment of an Alabama player 10 days before the nationally televised game.

Their players associate with agents:

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- University of Alabama officials are investigating whether junior defensive lineman Marcell Dareus broke NCAA rules by attending an agent's party in Miami's South Beach earlier this summer, multiple sources told ESPN.com. Dareus, ranked as the No. 7 prospect for the 2011 NFL draft by ESPN analyst Mel Kiper, is the latest prominent college football player to be entangled in an evolving NCAA investigation into illegal contact and conduct by sports agents. "Our [university] compliance people are looking into it," Alabama coach Nick Saban said. Sources told ESPN last week that NCAA investigators have interviewed North Carolina players, including defensive end Marvin Austin, about attending the party. South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders also confirmed to ESPN on Sunday that he recently spoke with NCAA investigators about the same party. 
The NCAA is trying to determine who paid for the players' transportation to Miami, and lodging, food and entertainment while they were there. 

They had a huge memorabilia scandal:

A report alleging NCAA violations involving memorabilia by Alabama players being sold by a Tuscaloosa, Ala., store owner drew a response Thursday night from Alabama director of athletics Bill Battle, as well as a vehement denial from Tom Al-Betar, owner of T-Town Menswear and T-Town Gallery. The story alleges that current Alabama players, including stars Julion Jones, Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, AJ McCarron, T.J. Yeldon and Amari Cooper, are autographing memorabilia that they know is being sold, an NCAA violation, and potentially profiting from it, as well. It's not the first time Al-Betar has faced the allegation from outkickthecoverage.com, and Alabama sent the booster a formal letter of disassociation by the UA compliance department in 2011. Reached by cbssports.com Thursday, Al-Betar defended his actions, saying that the memorabilia in his shop signed by current players is being brought in by fans."They don't belong to no football players," Al-Betar said. "They sign it over there and they will come here. Most every year they do the same thing." Photos from the shop's Facebook page, however, depicted both current and graduated players signing items in the store, although outkickthecoverage.com provided no evidence of payments to players. It may be up to the NCAA at some point to decide what it all means. On Monday, the T-Town Menswear Facebook page, the source of many of the photos of Albetar and the players, no longer existed. A Twitter message from @ttownmenswear said, "T-Town Menswear is in the process of setting up a new web site, blog and more! Stay tuned for more info."

Their coaches have committed NCAA recruiting violations:

Alabama won't face any further punishment stemming from former Crimson Tide defensive line coach Bo Davis' NCAA violations, the NCAA announced Friday morning. Davis received a two-year show-cause penalty that will be in effect through April 13, 2019. It's a significant punishment that stems from the violations that led to Davis being fired by Alabama last April. According to the NCAA, Davis knowingly committed a recruiting violation when he took part in an impermissible meeting with four prospective recruits that was pre-arranged by a booster. Davis then provided false or misleading information about the meeting and the booster's involvement when questioned by Alabama and the NCAA, according to the NCAA.

Edited December 28, 2023 by temptation

[Bobref]

2 hours ago, temptation said:

Imagine being so triggered by a “sign stealing scandal” that you attempt to label Jim Harbaugh as the cheater in a photo next to Nick Saban.

Need I remind you, Saban coaches in the $EC which stands for “surely everyone cheats” or “send everyone cash.”

Both can be true.

[temptation]

36 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Both can be true.

Yes but one is much more egregious…and it isn’t the guy who (to this point) has shown to have zero involvement in a staffer’s use of an iPhone to scout football games.

[temptation]

Also, I like this one better.

A shot of Jim Harbaugh, Ryan Day and Nick Saban.

[Bash Riprock]

18 hours ago, temptation said:

Also, I like this one better.

A shot of Jim Harbaugh, Ryan Day and Nick Saban.

Well played. That’s funny!