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As a Coach.....hard pass on Saturday double headers during the regular season. Nothing would be worse than playing the late game and then having to turn around and prepare for next weeks opponent.

With respect I don't think reducing the big 3's chances is at all what he is talking about. I think he's talking about removing more of the 6A schools that will always have LESS of chance, and putting them into 5A. This limits 6A to just the schools that have MORE of a chance against the big 3 based on enrollment. Those may sound like the same thing to some, but to me they are different and I don't think that is being recognized.

Covid bait!!🤪 Well done @Rudy

Thread completely derailed in 2 hours by one post🤪

I disagree.....I still get to do that🤪

Yes, but that is different that "giving up" a play that would be a 6 yard loss (sack) by dumping the ball away for no loss. Apples and Oranges. In your example he is looking to gain an advantage (the clock running) by doing so, not avoid a loss. Being unable to protect your QB, shouldn't be fixed by giving the offense and easy out. You adjust your play calling or have your Q drop to a knee if you you're afraid for his life.

Was it the 10-10 Michigan game? I was there too....

I'm a fan of the HS OT model. If people believe there should be discussion about whether the OT should start on the 10 yl or 15 or 20, maybe that is worth discussion. But if the goal is short and simple, having OT start at the 10yl with line to gain being the GL...it can't get much simpler and quicker. I don't think the vast majority of HS kickers are good enough to warrant moving back further to start an OT possession.

I would classify every two (as we do now) but based on a "rolling 4 year" amount of SF points. I think that is what others might be suggesting as well.

Would be more valid if you averaged the win% for football with win% for basketball. As you have them listed, it gives greater weight to basketball performance as they play more games.

My reference to Cathedral was based upon Success Factor....

Quick google search shows multiple public high schools in NY (more than one in Brooklyn) with ~7000 students (one is over 8000). No idea what the format of these schools are (9-12? multiple campuses?)....just what the interwebs told me🤪

Going form CA1's numbers...the only Indy donut schools in 5A are Whiteland, Decatur Cent, Plainfield, Franklin, New Pal & Cathedral. Whiteland & DC could be 6A in the relatively near future, depending on enrollment drops in the bottom of 6A. Cathedral will be 6A as soon as SF determines they bump...maybe sooner, maybe later. I don't see any of the others making that jump any time too soon. Just a random thought while looking at those numbers....it might be possible for Carmel to be 6000 students before a school like Franklin was even to 2000 students. I live in Hamilton Co, but have not heard ANY discussion of Carmel splitting....how long can that be the case? There is still a little room for growth in the west part of their district. I don't think 6000 students is impossible.

I would also give a big thumbs up to Homestead's in house broadcast. Its actually better than many professional productions out there. Absolutely excellent!

2 questions for resident IHSAA officials: 1. Am I reading this correctly that ALL low blocks must occur immediately at the snap....regardless of the QB's presnap locaiton (UC or Shotgun)? 2. Can the OL start in a 2pt stance and cut?

I'm assuming the new staff must be made up of only two.....a Master & an apprentice. "Only a Sith deals in absolutes...." Obi-Wan Kenobi /nerdrant/ off🤓

To be honest DE isn't the one exhibiting butt hurt. Others just seem to think its impossible that anyone could have a logical reason to disagree with them. I'm going to guess that person might speak up fairly soon....🤪

This....the issue isn't travel distances on Friday nights on the fall. It all of the weeknight events in all your other sports. We are myopic when it comes to football, but the effect on other sports and the weeknight contests is the big factor.

Reminded me of the Marc Buoniconi hit....glad he was ok. When I was in college, there was a video (Dick Vermeil narrated it) about neck injuries that included game film from "head down" tackles that led to paralysis or death (Chucky Mullins may have been one?). Had to watch it each year before contact practices. Not sure if it was an NCAA thing, or something we did. Was one of the most miserable things I've ever had to watch.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/12/04/texas-football-player-escorted-out-of-game-by-police-after-assaulting-referee/ Apparently this was a "play-in" game for Texas Playoffs. The blue team won, but today the school district has decided to pull the team from the playoffs. Ugly all the way around. It does sound like the official (27 year veteran) is going to be ok. Further, the kid who attacked the official had a very bright athletic future, in football & wrestling. But he has apparently had issues like this in the past. Terrible waste.

@Bobref In regards to "generate revenue"....how would less tournament games achieve this? I would piggy back this on top of the dismissal of "because we can". I'm not disagreeing with much of your proposal, there is a lot to agree with from a football perspective. But if "we can" do an all in tournament, in order to "generate more revenue"....isn't that the responsible thing for the IHSAA to do? I would definitely agree with anything that would get us "better games" (via seeding, neutral sites, rolling success factor, etc), but not necessarily "less games" for reasons above.

I think there is more happening off screen that we can't see....something more than just the one player charging the official.

Very well said. Every kid at Cathedral is a recruit, otherwise they would have no student body....even the kid that just wants to take AP classes and play the violin has been recruited at least by reputation, advertisement, or other (I personally know someone who sent their kid there for this specific reason...I have no personal knowledge of why Cathedral is a great place to play violin, but I'm told it is 😀). The imbalance comes from the kids PPs don't have to count. Being able to quantify the amount of kids that might participate in "something/anything" seems to be a logical and way to count enrollment for extracurricular (i.e. football) classification.

What I'm suggesting is a "clearinghouse" form that every kid who WANTS to participate in ANY extracurricular would have to fill out at beginning of year. Most schools have something like this already that serves as code of conduct/drug testing/etc form. You aren't counting specific kids in each extracurricular, you are having them declare their intended interest. Some of these kids may not even go out for sports, band, the play, student council, etc. But they are a potential "participant" and would be counted as such for IHSAA classification. I imagine DOE would find some purpose for this data as well. Somewhere back in the depths of old PP debate archives there is a longer (and likely better) version of this proposal...but now I'm old with less brain cells🤪

Agree with Grover.... I have always been an advocate of a "clearninghouse" system. That counted the number of kids that participate in ANY extracurricular (sports, music, etc). That is your "participant" enrollment. For PP's and affluent public schools this number will be near or over 90% of their total enrollment. For schools with struggling "demographics" (however you want to determine that)....it may be 50% of total enrollment or lower. The issue isn't the kids that publics/PPs count....the issue it the kids that PP's don't "have to count".