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Football, by and large, is a weekend deal....but in other sports, CG making half their bus trips to HamCO...yikes. Have fun with that on weeknights

I was just going to mention Cathedral....no idea if Cathedral would want that. But they'd be the interesting choice.

Kyle Park was one of the best regarded assistant coaches in the HCC (Zionsville) before he took the Goshen job. Goshen did little to nothing in regards to coaching hires. You can’t build a 5A program with a staff made up of mostly lay coaches, and small few full time contract people in the building. I can’t imagine how anyone who knows football thinks you are going to get a better candidate. Anyone who knows football knows the admin is doing nothing to support the program in the way of getting coaches hired. You aren’t going to “build” numbers in 5A program when you have so few coaches teaching in the building. Firing Coach Park was a way to put the blame on someone else, when the admins won’t put the effort into the program. They fired the best candidate they were going to get.

Other schools have opted to play "up" a class before (not due to success factory). Cathedral can voluntarily petition the IHSAA to play up in 6A anytime they want to....why don't they?🤔

I'm not sure that's what the OP what is pointing out. I think it's that until this week the IHSAA website said the following: "Game assignments will be announced on Saturday, Nov. 20th, 2021 following the semi-state championship games." That's not a "considering", that's what the IHSAA said they were going to do. But then Monday 11/15 they just posted the same odd's and even's schedule they've always used with no real explanation. I don't really care either way....just seemed odd, I think that's all anyone else saying as well. Depending on how Semi-State goes, some Evansville area fans might be a little miffed...if they all advanced a 2/3/4 schedule would have been a cool thing for Evansville football.

I always considered any part of NW Indiana on Central Time to be Region, but saying such words has started fights before🤪

It did not....Westfield was flagged for jumping. Edit: Found it....49:43 mark in the video. Also was a big deal about a holding call on HSE last drive that resulted in HSE getting a 1st down. https://www.ihsaatv.org/?B=318093

HSE did this vs Westfield last Friday. On a punt in the first half.

The old legends about the “Boone County Cougar”, were in no way an actual reference to a species of subfamily Felinae. You’d have had a better chance of spotting one at Ike & Jonsies back in the day.

This is the "Tom Brady" rule....to prevent QB's from getting hit low. Ironic they didn't change the rule when it happened to Carson Palmer when he was a Bengal and they actually were pretty good. Palmer was never the same after that, the Bengals went back to being the Bengals.

Northwood's two losses are to Concord and Logansport. Concord beat Cavies by 2 scores.....Northwood took them to OT and only lost by a point. Logansport is undefeated in 4A and ranked in the top ten of both polls. Not a great metric

MIC average Sag rating: 85.71 HCC average Sag rating: 85.66

As a former NLC guy....Would love to see the Tigers come out of the sectional! Wouldn't be too disappointed to travel to K-County. Warsaw has solid facilities!

This makes too much common sense to have any chance whatsoever...

HOLY BLOCKS IN THE BACK!! @ 11:00 (1st Tiger Score)

My fault.....I assumed the intent of the rule makers was to prevent.... And in my defense, the lawyer comment was made with full knowledge of @Bobref's noble profession😁👍 In all seriousness, I'm a cranky defensive coach. But I'm thankful that Bob and the rest of the officials come her to talk, debate, discuss, and in my case (often)...vent. Good luck to everyone this Friday!

Ok....Devil's advocate. Now give a detailed explanation of "duress". 😁 If a QB is safely in the pocket, 10 yards behind the LOS....is he in "duress"? If after scanning for an open receiver, and not finding one for a few seconds....with the pocket still intact and 10 yards behind the LOS...is the QB in duress? If in the next seconds, the pocket collapses and the QB is under heavy pressure is he under duress? Under which of the above circumstances above would Mr. Demetriou allow a QB to IG the ball? I would argue that any high school QB knows that the progression of events from #1 to #3 happens very quickly. By intentionally grounding the ball at step #2, he is avoiding the loss of yardage that he may reasonably assume will happens if he waits until the play gets to #3. Should be flagged. Is there not a reason the specific exemption for IG is written into the "kill the clock"? Immediately after the snap. To me that is the only way for the QB to truly not be in duress....at all other points, the QB is being actively pursued by the defense. Now, if we want to allow the QB to ground the ball when not under "duress" (as Mr. Demetriou seems to describe it)...I would suggest making the ball down at the spot of the throw. How many officials want to have that on their plate along with everything else you have to manage with an arguably undersized crew? None so it will never happen. At LEAST 2 rules are in the book to address when a QB can intentionally ground the ball. (IG rule and kill the clock rule. I don't think adding conjecture to that is necessary. You either ground it at the snap, or have to get it in the vicinity of a receiver (and I'm ok with chucking it well over a guys head on sideline or redzone...QB has to have enough ability and time to get that done). Great discussion....I just think we have too many lawyers in the officiating business, making the plain language of the rules more complicated than necessary.🤪

But he can be downfield blocking on a "screen" pass...correct? That is the specific question asked in the original post.

Throwing a ball away to nothing instead of taking the sack, taking a knee, or becoming a runner quite literally is ..... Too many white hats throw this part away when making the call...."well he didn't gain an advantage". Excuse me....2 & 10 is an advantage over 2 & 15. I'd also argue with the premise of the question posed...."he rolls right and gets free of the rush"....but can't continue upfield or out of bounds due to his ankle?? If an offense can't play a healthy QB, or protect him as a passer...the white hat shouldn't be using a conservative view of IG to protect them for loss of ANY yards or time. This is 100% gaining an advantage to avoid a negative yardage play. Its not hard for a QB to throw it at the feet of a receiver or over the head of one near the sideline. If the QB can't do either of those....congratulations to the defense for making it so. Dumping it into pasture is gaining an advantage with time or yards. :rant off:😀

Coach Eppley gonna hang 5 extra TD's on his alma mater?!?!? That's cold🤪

This is only out of curiosity.....does Penn accept out of district transfers? I haven't lived up north for a long time, but it would seem there would be some interest in people doing that.

Good catch...hadn't noticed that.

https://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-baseball/Assignments20012003.htm Here is early 00's. Would still love to find something from mid 90s. I copied all the schools over 1,000 students. What is most interesting is how much disparity there is now....The difference between today's Top and bottom of 6A (Carmel & Valpo 5286-2054=3,232) is much larger than the total enrollment of BD in the early 00's. Rank School Students, Grades 9-11 1. Ben Davis 2771 2. Carmel 2597 3. North Central (Indianapolis) 2409 4. Warren Central 2285 5. Penn 2118 6. Pike 2012 7. Indianapolis Tech 1989 8. Lake Central 1982 9. Portage 1908 10. Lawrence North 1786 11. Indianapolis Arlington 1748 12. Terre Haute North 1639 13. Fort Wayne Northrop 1625 14. Hamilton Southeastern 1596 15. Valparaiso 1593 16. Lafayette Jefferson 1584 17. Center Grove 1551 18. Huntington North 1551 19. Lawrence Central 1548 20. Merrillville 1547 21. Kokomo 1509 22. New Albany 1482 23. LaPorte 1474 24. Fort Wayne Snider 1461 25. Michigan City 1422 26. Crown Point 1413 27. Warsaw Community 1400 28. Terre Haute South 1378 29. Homestead 1378 30. Richmond 1373 31. Perry Meridian 1363 32. Elkhart Central 1361 33. Bloomington South 1352 34. Chesterton 1352 35. Columbus North 1339 36. Indianapolis Northwest 1331 37. Jeffersonville 1323 38. Southport 1311 39. Indianapolis Broad Ripple 1307 40. Noblesville 1269 41. South Bend Riley 1264 42. Franklin Central 1243 43. Mishawaka 1239 44. Elkhart Memorial 1236 45. Marion 1224 46. Martinsville 1201 47. Indianapolis Manual 1199 48. East Chicago Central 1196 49. Bedford North Lawrence 1192 50. Evansville Harrison 1172 51. Anderson 1167 52. Evansville Reitz 1160 53. Castle 1156 54. Anderson Highland 1132 55. Evansville North 1130 56. Fort Wayne South Side 1118 57. Gary West Side 1110 58. Harrison (West Lafayette) 1107 59. Goshen 1092 60. Decatur Central 1084 61. Avon 1080 62. Bloomington North 1063 63. Floyd Central 1063 64. Brownsburg 1062 65. Jennings County 1061 66. Evansville Central 1049 67. Carroll (Fort Wayne) 1040 68. Columbus East 1034 69. Fort Wayne North Side 1025 70. South Bend Adams 1020 71. Concord 1016 72. McCutcheon 1015 73. Gary Wallace 1011 74. East Central 1003

Agreed, if anyone can find that...it would be interesting to look at.

I agree that part of this is the "decline of South Bend" (as well as other parts of Northern Indiana). But decline may not be the best term, it may be more of a lack of growth compared to suburban Indy. Enrollment data show's you some of the effects. In the 90's and early 00's Penn's enrollment was MUCH larger compared to the majority of Indy metro schools. Save a few big MIC schools. In the 90's, HSE was a single 3A school!! Penn is now very "middle of the pack" in size compared to MIC and HCC... Carmel High School 5286 Ben Davis High School 4499 Warren Central 3821 North Central 3727 Fishers 3509 Penn 3338 Lake Central 3316 Pike 3295 HSE 3273 Avon 3095 Noblesville 3001 6 schools over 2500 These are the currently used enrollment numbers by IHSAA...not necessarily the "actual" enrollments of those schools. I'd love to see mid 90's enrollment numbers but don't have the time to look. Penn doesn't have a size advantage in 6A. Further, the metro schools that have caught up in size, now have a much better "competition advantage" than Penn does in the NIC. MIC and HCC schools play "Penn's" every week. How often does Penn play near peer competition? Hat's off to Coach Y and Penn trying to fill their schedule with stiffer competition such as Cathedral. Its very hard for a large school outside Indy Metro to find the quality of competition that the larger Indy Metro schools enjoy on a regular basis. I'd also argue there is a larger "pool" of quality coaches in the Indy Metro area. Staff's change and get shaken up regularly. A quality coach can easily begin coaching at other programs without changing their address or where their own kids go to school. This is much different in other parts of the state, where changing coaching jobs/filling coaching jobs may require someone moving the whole family.