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That 1983 team is important despite going 0-10. It was the impetus for the development of the youth program.

You are correct. Brebeuf moved up via enrollment following a visit to LOS.

Polston's got an offer already from Michigan. The main weakness for DC this year was the passing was OK as a short, complement component to a run-based offense. As I mentioned in a different thread, most of their passing was what I refer to as +1 passing ... if it's 3rd and 4, it's going to be a 5-yard pass, if it's 3rd and 3, it's going to be a 4-yard pass. They weren't necessarily geared toward air-raid attacks although they could surprise you. No one's going to confuse their pass offense with an LCC-style offense. DC's QB rating was around low-80s, so I'd say the biggest thing for them to look at for next season would be rounding out the passing attack. The other big thing is going to be figuring out how to replace Berry. He was kind of the thunder to Dodo's lightning. Berry was a workhouse and was probably responsible for loosening up the outsides by his consistent inside running. Harrison may be moving further north than folks expect as the enrollment numbers may well send them up to 6A pending what that bottom part of 6A is going to have in enrollment fluctuation. I believe that Harrison has now surpassed Jeff as the largest high school in Tippecanoe County.

In 1A, you have Lutheran and AC moving up to 2A. In AC's case, it might end up being slightly premature like Linton and Scecina in that they got bumped via SF, but then enrollment ended up keeping them there. Lutheran, being one of the smaller schools in 1A would still have, prior to this season, likely had an opportunity to more easily stay in 2A as I think they could likely manage picking up a couple of points in 2A in a two-year cycle ... pending sectional placement. With the new 3-point system, I think that's going to be more up in the air ... again, pending sectional placement. In 2A, Luers heads to 3A. LCC remains in 2A with a regional and sectional over the past two seasons. Wouldn't be surprised to see Luers end up in the 3A Sectional of Death with Chatard's departure. In 3A, Chatard heads to 4A. Wonder if IHSAA will put its thumb on the scale again and place them in Roncalli's sectional? In 4A, East Central moves up to 5A. Dwenger is going back down to 4A after a 6-4 and 6-6 showing over the past two seasons and being bounced in sectionals both years. Kokomo's yo-yo'ed the past couple of cycles between 5A and 4A on enrollment, so will be interesting to see if they end up back in 5A again. Brebeuf returns to 3A after a pair of sectional exits. Will they also end up returned to the Sectional of Death along with Guerin and newcomer Luers? If the new SF "stay points" start with classification as of this season's end, then Evansville Memorial should be returning to 3A with a pair of sectionals under its belt in the past two seasons. In 5A, Snider will be headed to 6A while last year's state champ, Valpo, escapes SF losing in regional this season. In 6A, Cathedral remains in 6A with a regional last season and a sectional this season. A couple of notes: 1A TPC will be moving to 8-man in 2024 and so there will be at least one less 1A school from that perspective. ISD moved to 8-man already this season. So did Dugger and Rock Creek. Faith Christian, which has never had football, also started in 8-man this season. SF outcomes: 3 p/p moving up and 2 staying because of SF. 3 public moving up because of SF. 2 p/p moving back because of SF. 0 public moving back because of SF.

Provided that the Sectional of Death 2.0 doesn't show up in 4A and there's not another one of those "one season COVID" SF cycles.

WCSI AM is streaming now. edit: 1010 AM

I think 1380 AM The Fan is carrying it.

Already planning for next year ... I gotta catch @CoachDurhamand get my third Caddy.

Was interesting hearing the broadcast announcers talking about AC's departure from 1A North like they were in the Ft. Wayne Diocese.

Pioneer got kind of a reprieve as they moved down from 2A back to 1A a season early, but other than that, not much benefit.

AC's not going to be a slouch in 2A either.

Had to go with Adams Central to have a chance to even up with @Mod22 .

Try 1380 The Fan. edit: AM

If McCutcheon is in the mix, it may come with Harrison as they've traditionally done. Would be interesting if Kokomo left NCC. Harrison and McCutcheon just got booted from the NCC only to see Logansport bolt for the Hoosier right after the vote. Toss in Tech departing and the NCC is down four teams in a season. If McCutcheon is in the mix, it may come 495203with Harrison as they've traditionally done. Would be interesting if Kokomo left NCC. Harrison and McCutcheon just got booted from the NCC only to see Logansport bolt for the Hoosier right after the vote. Toss in Tech departing and the NCC is down four teams in a season.

A couple other items I look at with DC is that they lost by two scores to Whiteland earlier in the season and then just wiped them out 41-7 in the regional game. They barely beat Plainfield earlier in the season, but on a similar vein, Harrison dropped a one-point game to Plainfield early in the season and then manhandled them in the sectional 39-13. I think DC is a wolf in sheep's clothing looking at the season as a whole as opposed to "a tale of two seasons."

2 Points Chatard vs Heritage Hills Northwood vs East Central Crown Point vs Ben Davis 4 Point Games Adams Central vs Lutheran Snider vs Decatur Central Luers vs North Posey

Not really. Saw them play in person. Lots of misdirection on plays and quick hits. Also, QB spends quite a lot of time under center which you don't see as much of anymore in bigger school high school football.

Eastern Hancock most likely benefited from this happening in the past back in 2013. Scecina moving up via SF, despite not winning a title in two straight appearances, cleared the way in the south for EH. Tri-Central beat EH anyway, but SF cleared the deck for EH to have a shot at LOS which likely would have been filled by Scecina had they not been SF'd. Linton had a red and blue ring, respectively, in their back-to-backs in 2015 and 2016 which then saw them SF'd and then "enrollmented (trademark pending)."

Baseball's already kicking in and the first snows haven't even come yet.

I wasn't talking about SF per se, but the idea of a team getting bumped without winning a state title. It happened with Scecina and no one complained about it ... just thought it was an unfortunate consequence, but as you point out, most folks didn't have an issue with it because it got rid of LCC and taking out Scecina was seen as icing on the cake and not a travesty. Yes, SF is flawed in its current form. As I pointed out in the post above, and as others who were part of the IFCA proposal will tell you, SF was not really approached with the idea of detail or precision. Four year rolling cycles as opposed to two-year fixed cycles would have been a much better way of addressing things with much less collateral damage. That would also open up the idea of addressing the fact that teams with same points aren't necessarily the same. As an example, take the current situation of 6 points ... across a two year cycle, that could represent three different teams: 4-2, 2-4, and 3-3 across a two-year cycle in how points were accumulated. Under the current form, an argument could likely be made that 2-4 is in ascendancy although no guarantee that it's not a single class issue, 4-2 may well be more of a single class, and 3-3 could be an argument of foundational program ... although, with two-year cycles, still hard to determine. And thus the dilemma upon us ... the IHSAA doesn't really distinguish between the 6-pointers ... they are all considered better-than-average. Not optimal and possibly not fair, but consistent and easy to implement ... which as an alternative to potential lawsuits, is pretty much what the IHSAA was looking for. Part of the biggest problem with SF is that it was backward-engineered and implemented to solve a specific problem. In the tight-focused approach, they didn't realize that sometimes the traps set for one type of prey often catch other unintended entities just wandering around the same fields. I completely agree with you about Pioneer getting caught up in SF, although probably lesser of an issue for Pioneer as Pioneer was a high-performing program for years, so it was more in a position to absorb that hit than say a team like North Decatur making to LOS this year and getting a blue ring and heading to 2A. Nonetheless, it still will have some (negative) impact on Pioneer's program. Would like to see the IHSAA move to a four-year cycle which would be a much better step in the right direction to minimizing damage while also allowing for movement of teams that can compete at a higher level.

It's easier if you wait until the patient bleeds out.

And yet it's happened already and no one complained about it or disagreed more with it or considered it stupid a decade ago. The question to ask, to determine the spirit of things is, would AC, in its current form, be able to win sectionals in the average 2A sectional ... let's currently ignore the potential that they could end up in a sectional with Luers. If the answer is "yes," then we're really only quibbling about small details because the general consensus is, if you can win a sectional each year in a class in which you got bumped into, then you deserve to stay up ... although the IHSAA, erroneously IMO, just recently changed their minds again on that. Nonetheless, I suspect if you polled the site, most folks are OK with their OWN PROGRAM abiding by that idea; two sectionals or more and stay up.

Yep. Win or lose, they are likely to follow the path of Scecina and Linton ... teams that have seen LOS, ended up in 2A via SF, and end up with enrollment numbers to stay regardless of SF points to stay.

2 Points Chatard vs Heritage Hills Northwood vs East Central Crown Point vs Ben Davis 4 Point Games Adams Central vs Lutheran ... although this might change before game time Snider vs Decatur Central Luers vs North Posey

To be accurate, AC is making their third straight visit to LOS in a row. Win or not; especially given that that they are facing Lutheran, again, they kind of fit the mold of the spirit of the law behind SF. Scecina ended up in that situation the first two years that SF tracking was in place and ended up in 2A with no blue rings. Given the way that SF works, if the argument is that a team shouldn't be bumped up if they went to LOS twice in a row and got two red rings, couldn't a team that won state in Year 1 of the cycle and only got a regional in Year 2 make a compelling argument for not being bumped in that they were just good for the one year and, at least by the numbers, actually getting worse? SF doesn't really address problems with precision, especially with just a two-year window, and the set points, regardless of acquisition sequence is just an artifact of that.