foxbat

Never count out LCC; especially at home. Pioneer beat LCC at LaRocca back in 2018 in a sectional championship and then moved up to 2A. The last team to bump off the Knights at home before that was Sheridan, a decade before in 2008, in a sectional contest 34-28. With that said, as @dazed and confused points out, LCC missed several games this season due to COVID and, those games also were not all in a row. As such, LCC's season looked like stop-start-stop-start-stop-start which really can't be good for continuity or getting traction. Also, the games that were missed were a couple of biggies like Guerin, Tri-West, and a sectional championship due to COVID when an opponent had to drop out. I'm not sure that SA is considered the underdog in this one as Harrell gives them around 85% to win semi-state. Similarly, Sagarin is showing a differential, in SA's favor, of some 33 points. The one advantage, albeit slight, that LCC has on paper is that its schedule strength is the highest in 1A of the remaining teams ... but just thinly over SA. I think, given the lack of data points and even the data points that do exist being fuzzy in terms of predictive value, if LCC wins, it will likely be more based on sheer grit than on bankable/predictable data points.

I know it as at Harrison as all of the correspondences that I get are all prefaced with "Coed Football."

Which stat? Distance between campuses vying for state berths?

For 2A - 3A the sweet spot is right around 35-40% for public schools. For 4A-6A, that drops into the 20s. At least based on last year's LOS attendees.

That's not completely accurate. With vouchers there are some folks than can make it work for a similar cost that it cost for my kid to attend an out-of-district school. One of my kids attends public school in a different district than where we live and we pay a differential for that to happen ... and when my youngest follows him, we'll have to also pay that differential again.

If we're talking about the same very large green school in the north, that very large green school in the north picked up a player a very large school in the north central

Is that you Mr. Vonnegut? 😀

Or from Illinois to attend an Indiana public school.

I would agree. Similarly, I think folks are getting ahead of themselves if they are saying that Roncalli should be in 6A due to a victory over MV. Roncalli beat 5A Harrison earlier this season by 4 points and Harrison finished 6-4 this year. Pretty solid given the competition, but would not be part of the grouping for propelling Roncalli into a 6A position.

I can name you kids who went through LCC's feeder program only to end up at Lafayette Jeff, McCutcheon, West Lafayette, Harrison, Frontier, and Benton Central. I can also name you a kid who went through Harrison's feeder program who ended up at Lafayette Jeff and then ended up at Valpo. I can name you another one who went through Benton Central's feeder program who ended up at West Lafayette and a kid who was at West Lafayette who then jumped across the river to go to Jeff and didn't even have to wait a year to play. Another one who left McCutcheon to end up over at Harrison. In the last ten years, Indiana's open enrollment environment has taken away lots of these arguments for "someone started at X and ended up at Y." About the only folks who tend to be constrained tend to be Indy Catholic schools that have feeders based on parishes and the kid who thinks about jumping parishes for high school is likely to be excommunicated.

Having been a team that's seen Pioneer over and over and over again they need more than a little credit. What I'm actually interested in is seeing how things are going to spin in another thread where someone claimed that Andrean should be playing 4A by default ... especially given that they were beaten by a 2A team that was actually visiting 2A for a bit from 1A. Should be fun next year as LCC goes up to 2A and I believe that Pioneer stays up in 2A, so those two may get a chance to meet up again just in a different "neighborhood."

Kind of like sneaking Sherman's army down to Atlanta. They're so small that no one will see them coming. 😀

Used to be. Once the Vikings built the dome, they got soft. The old "black and blue" division got soft and squishy ... except maybe the Packer's playing on the Tundra.

Uphill both ways!

Not sure, but those were the county/health department numbers that were allowed for capacity at those respective games. I'm not sure of specifically how they implemented them.

Just wanted to give the big guy his "Rudy moment."

I pointed this out in another thread, but we probably have some general starting point ideas for where things might go based on where they have already been for the Colts ... that is the been-there-done-that configurations that have already been used by the Colts for a couple home games might also reduce the issues surrounding having to "convince" powers that be that it can be done and how it would be done. At the lower level, based on early-season play, the Colts seated around 7,500 and slightly looser at 12,500 .. although I don't recall the "DEFCON" numbers that we were at at those times. If the idea is that folks would be cleared out after each game for cleaning (and possibly have to pay for a second/third entrance in the same day), I'd conjecture that some of the "stick around" crowd would decrease.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/health/2020/11/12/coronavirus-indianapolis-here-new-coronavirus-restrictions/6265513002/ FTA: Live entertainment, cultural venues and events Cultural venues, music venues and museums are reduced to 25% capacity. All non-essential hospitality and entertainment businesses must close at midnight. Special or seasonal events, like concerts, festivals, wedding receptions and sporting events, are limited to 25% capacity. Those events may include more than 50 people only if the event has a safety plan approved by the county health department.

Looks like Maryland has paused their season now and the OSU game will be cancelled and not rescheduled. MState would be next on that cancellation list of they go on quarantine.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire?

In 1A sometimes there's not so much grass either. Heard a visiting team kid complain once getting off the bus that it was a shame that their opponent made them park all the way in the back of this gravel parking and that they had such a long walk to the field. The bus driver said to the kid, "Quit your b*tchin'. What do you want? I drove you right up to the 50 yard line."

Depending on configuration, it's about 67,000. A better way to probably figure it out is that, at the end of September, Marion County was allowing about 7,500 for the Colts game ... the one with the Jets. My guess is that, if we go on lockdown levels again, that might be what they go with ... given that they've done it before and have a blueprint already for it. The next level would be when they increased to around 12,500 back at the start of October in the game with the Bengals. Both of those would be blueprint configs that they've run with and managed, so those are likely decent starting points for conjecture.

Quantity or quality?

Historically, although I've not dialed in this season to verify, LCC's speed on defense has often made up for lack of size ... especially when paired up against size with minimal speed. The angles they tend to get, coupled with the setback they use ... if they are still using it ... typically has them playing bigger than their size would indicate. Size ends up being more of an issue on offense when the QB has lower mobility as in with Barrett. LCC has typically had decent-sized OLine with less mobile QBs ... Denhart comes to mind ... and traditionally tend to usually have a decent receiving corps that doesn't rely on one or two receivers only. That plays into the issue with someone like Barrett, who as you pointed out will pick you apart if he has time. Again, I've not dialed in to LCC much this season, so I don't know if they've continued that tradition of having like 12 receivers on the field or not, but if they have, even with a smaller line, Barrett will have plenty quick targets to get to. Earlier on in his career, he had trouble reading that many folks and taking advantage, but with age has come experience ... and last year's run to LOS certainly helped him mature into a better receiver reader.

Snow's the least of your concerns at The Pit.