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A couple of differences that I can see, from an LOS perspective, and I'm spitballing here because I don't know their cost of operations, is what kind of resources they need to clean each level and the offset ticket pricing. I would agree that, in normal circumstances, they've already figured out the breakeven point or, potentially, the loss-point for the event. Under normal circumstances, I'd agree that 12,500 for a Colts game should translate to a similar 12,500 for IHSAA games(s). With that said, let's assume that they need three crews to clean three levels. I might be able to spread 12,500 comfortably across three levels, but I might also be able to handle 6,000 comfortably on one level. By making the restriction to 6,000 I get to drop two cleaning crews and their corresponding costs/logistics ... it also makes it easier to do crowd control for clearing LOS between games. The other difference is probably based in the pricing of the tickets ... although the "everyone out, pay again to come back in" might help that out a bit but not much. I have to imagine that top ticket price of $15, or $30 for two tickets vs. the Colts, see below for ticket prices for today's Colts game with a caveat that these are resales, leaves A LOT of room that has to be made up and my guess is that, with a 12,500 capacity for attendance, it makes it really hard to make it up on concessions. As such, cutting out the upper two levels or one level helps drop what the Colts eat on the event. That would be the main reasons why I could see the numbers dropping down below what the Colts allow on professional game day. Like I said, I'm not in the heads of the Colts, so I don't know how much they are willing to eat on an event like this, so I'm mainly speculating here.

Four for LCC alone out of their own quarantine and a fifth where a PP school they were going to play had to give up an opportunity to compete for a sectional championship due to COVID in their ranks.

Actually, what you want to see and when you want to see it are the difference. You want to see everything RIGHT NOW and don't seem to be willing to wait out SF to work itself out. Realistically, if Roncalli really is a TRUE 6A school, it will get there eventually via SF provided that IHSAA doesn't get too cute and put them in the same sectional with someone like Cathedral where it has to be either/or. In the same way, if Cathedral really was a true 6A school, and at best they are a lower-rung 6A, SF would keep them up in 6A. Similarly, should Chatard get to 4A, assuming the IHSAA doesn't do, what our good friend @Impartial_Observer refers to as "stepping on their d*cks," and keeps them out of the same sectional with Roncalli, there will be ample opportunity for them to stay in 4A. If Chatard really is a 4A or 5A school, then it's just a matter of time before 1) SF gets them there and 2) SF keeps them there ... again, assuming someone not getting "cute" with sectional assignments. This also goes to the problem, as I pointed out before, about a multiplier vs. SF. SF moves based on performance and performance takes time. Multiplier is done right now, but doesn't really achieve competitiveness, it only punishes or cripples. So the questions really are, do you REALLY want competitiveness? Do you REALLY want revenge/crippling? And if it's the former, then why would you not be willing to see competitiveness shake out?

Just the opposite for me. I love the implied/real big game culmination of the kids getting to play in LOS and perhaps even fueling their desire to make that transition from the high school field to the college field to the professional field and getting a "taste" of that even if just for a day and even if it may be the only time they ever get to do it. Just like our youth kids getting a chance to play their games on the high school field and one game a season getting to be "under the lights." That "under the lights" game is such a special event for the kids. As a youth coach that coached in a program where all the various team levels practiced in close proximity, we always talked to the kids about our hope for them was to move from the youth practice field, to the junior high practice field, to the varsity practice field, and eventually to the varsity game field. The other thing that I love about LOS, is the look in the eyes of the young kids in the stands. The look in my boys eyes when we'd get to LOS and that look when they first go through the tunnel and it opens up to the seats and the field, and just the looks in their eyes during the whole experience is all worth it for me. The game almost becomes icing on the cake.

I too like college sports definitely more than professional, but high school sports have really grown on me since moving to Indiana. I will confess that I used to be a "big school football bigot" coming from Texas and from a high school that would have 6A classification in Indiana ... somewhere in the enrollment neighborhood of Pike or Penn ... but I've really grown to enjoy high school ball; especially small school ball. The crowd size doesn't bother me as long as I have a dog in the fight ... either I coached the kids, or I know the kids' families, or I know and have coached against the coaches, whether my own kids are performing at the game or, this year for the first time, whether one of my kids is actually playing in a high school game. At the high school level I love the game for the purity of the game and, as I've gotten older and coached so many kids, I love it because of the impact that I know that it has on the individual kids ... to an extent beyond the actual game that's taking place.

Doesn't actually matter whether they do or don't. Most people (should) buy insurance with the expectation that they'll never need it, but what if they do? Liability for large entities works the same way ... they don't really care that it hasn't happened, only what happens if it does. Doesn't mean that you have to agree with it or do it yourself, but as Willy Wonka said, "You wouldn't begrudge me a little protection? A drop."

Nope. Not even a youth program. Their kids actually end up playing ball over with LCC as youth. 220 kids, but apparently somehow the "advantage" of being in Tippecanoe County hasn't been discovered by them. And of course there's St. James Lutheran ... which terminates at 8th grade. Somehow all of these privates are really bad at "luring all the talent out of the public hallways" as the narrative would go. Or perhaps, just maybe, it's not as cut-and-dry and easily-packaged as some would like everyone to believe ... as they are doling out torches and pitchforks.

Faith Christian.

Don't know directly about IHSAA guidelines, but LOS issued a statement that, for today's game with the Packers, they were allowing a max of 12,500. https://www.colts.com/news/green-bay-packers-tickets-week-11-2020-lucas-oil-stadium-covid-19

I suspect the answer to this is one word: liability.

$200 sounds like a lot, but really, the differential we are talking about is only $30-$60/$75 depending on one-day or two-day attendance. Normally you would have spent the $15 to attend the first game of the first day and stayed. Now you have to pay for the other two of the day because each requires a ticket for re-admission. If you normally stay for one-day, then it would cost you an extra $30. If you would normally go for two days, I believe that you had a have a ticket for that second day. Again, you would have paid $15 for the first game and you'll now pay an additional $30 for the second day. If the first day ticket would normally grant you free admission to the second day, then the added cost this year would be $45 for the second day. You would have spent the other money on parking, food, etc. regardless of whether you did re-admission or not. That added price goes down by the way if you don't stay for all the games. For example, if you go on Day 1 and only stay for a second game, you'd only be paying an additional $15. I understand that some folks don't have the extra $30-$60/$75 or don't want to pay it, but all of the other talk of food and the like is already baked into the equation normally.

I thought that was in the West? At least that's what the song says ... "Westward leading, Still proceeding, Guide us to Thy perfect Light." 😀

It'd go to 100% if Guerin or Brebeuf or honorary PP, West Lafayette, moved up with Chatard. 😀

Kind of the 4A/5A equivalency of the Sectional of Death in 3A. Actually, things start all over again for SF evals, so next year would only be the first year of the next cycle eval period for SF. With that said, if Roncalli picks up a state win next year, it lays down a better foundation for a 5A bump-up in the next evaluation cycle.

Roncalli played 5A Harrison this year and won 49-45 in a game that saw a back-and-forth lead change until pretty much the last possession. Harrison finished 6-4 this season dropping games to 6A Jeff 76-55, Westfield 34-10, the aforementioned Roncalli 49-45, and Zionsville in the first round of sections 33-21. Not too shabby given that three of these teams will be visiting LOS next week. With that said, I would agree that, despite the really good season that Roncalli is having, a permanent position in 6A would be untenable. Like you alluded to, SF has done what it needs to do. It may not do it immediately, but if Roncalli is really 6A material, they will be there in four years. If they aren't, then again, SF will let us know BASED ON PERFORMANCE. It will also do what it needs to do in 1A by moving LCC up next season and keeping Pioneer in 2A after moving up last time around after back-to-back state titles in 1A. Depending on where the IHSAA positions Pioneer and LCC, they could potentially end up spending a decent spread in 2A just by picking up a couple sectionals each. On the other hand, if the IHSAA puts them in the same sectional, they are guaranteeing that one or both of them will be back in 1A in the following cycle.

Marian made Chatard work for it though. That was a tight game.

True, but WeBo's thrashing of MD tonight was a surprise too. Harrell's actually had both of them with thin odds of getting to LOS, much less winning.

Five would be, although there was a stretch from 2010 - 2012, with five classes, where PPs won 1A-4A. I'm going to go out on a limb and take SouthAdams in 1A over Covenant Christian and WeBo to clip Leurs in an upset in 2A for the block.

SouthAdams 42 - LCC 9. Final. Good luck to South Adams representing the North in 1A at LOS next week.

SouthAdams 42 - LCC 3. 3:23 left in Q3.

Ah, and there we have the classic Muda. Keep it classy there!

Latest update from Sam King at J&C says SA 35 - LCC 3 with 5:57 to go in Q3. Combination of a really strong SA squad and a really short season catching up with LCC providing a hard double-whammy to overcome.

Looks like some of the opponents aren't quite believing what you are laying down ... at least at the half. WeBo up 28-0 over MD. Last week they dispatched a PP too. SA 14-3 over LCC. And just for good measure, visiting 1A Pioneer simply manhandling Luers 28-7 at the half. Last week they also took out another PP.

Probably need a 4-4 ... or better yet a 4-8/9. 😀 Ask @CoachDurhamabout those "overloads." It's like county speed. 😀

Linton had Dyllanne Deischer back in about 7-8 years ago. She was a point machine!