Footballking16

Not that my opinion matters, but feel like this is a pivotal game for Simmons and BD's future. At the same time I could be completely way off base.

Agree but I think these rankings have a lot more to do with the overall W-L record than anything else. But at the end of the day, once you get into these huge metropolitan regions like Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, LA, Dade/Broward Co FL/etc that are all huge football cities, they tend to beat up on each other as the season goes. Plus you have all the East Coast prep schools that are D1 factories and then of course schools like IMG.

Ha right, and they aren't even ranked #1. I would watch it too but IMG would win by at least 4 TDs, and that isn't a knock on Center Grove. IMG beat La Salle earlier this year 58-7 and La Salle has 4-5 legitimate big time football prospects. Bishop Gorman is another team that I watched Friday night lose in heart breaking fashion in the last minute of regulation that has another legit 10-15 major D1 football prospects who is now no longer ranked that I think would beat Center Grove and/or Cathedral rather handily. Still though, for a basketball state, it is nice to see some Indiana schools get some recognition.

While I certainly love the recognition, I have a hard time believing that there are only 7 high schools in America better than Center Grove and only 15 better than Cathedral. I don't really think there is an accurate way to do this unless you're consistently playing a national schedule.

I guess the real question is: How many fans is Center Grove planning on bringing? The game two years ago at Tech (where there is more than adequate seating) was barely half full. Center Grove brought maybe 1000, 1500 tops and remember being told on this same board that it was due to Fall Break. Looking at Center Grove's school calendar, this game once again falls under Center Grove's Fall Break Schedule. I imagine Cathedral will be adding a set of temporary bleachers on the visitors side (which isn't hard to do) and in that case would be the same size, if not bigger than Center Grove's current vistor's set up. Do visiting fans of Center Grove act the way Center Grove fans have in the same regard? I imagine Cathedral will probably have somewhere between 4000-5000 fans. 3500-4000 in the bleachers on the home side and the rest filled out along the fence. Unless Center Grove is planning on bringing 4000+ fans (they aren't) this isn't going to be as problematic as most are making it out to be. Cathedral barely has 1200 students, they don't need a stadium that seats 7000-8000k.

I bet you can squeeze 3500 on the Cathedral home side and another ~1200 on the Center Grove side. And then another ~2500 around the fences. Agree it's less than ideal, especially if you want to sit and enjoy the game, but they can fit close to 7000 in the venue if they wanted to. I wouldn't be surprised to see temp bleachers rented out between the 10 and 30's on the vistors side.

Also prior to the KO return, IU defense forced a FG attempt on a 4th and 6 up 14-10 but lined up over the center that negated the try and gave Cincy a 4th and short inside the 20 which they ultimately converted and eventually scored a TD. That was a 4 point swing. Add that along with the KO return as well as Penix last INT that was returned inside the 5 yard line and that's 17 points directly caused by the offense/special teams. That's the difference in the ball game right there and that's not even considering IU going 0-3 red zone with zero points to show for it. Defense did more than enough for IU to win going away.

Agree with everything. What's disappointing is that IU's defense has played well enough where they could very easily be 3-0 and in the top 10 in the country. I'm over the Penix experience and while I really want to put the blame on him I can't. This 1-2 start falls on Tom Allen. Offensive coordinator is incompetent. Special Teams coordinator is incompetent. Teams is mentally fragile (turnovers/penalties/mental lapses) and that is all an extension of coaching. Respect the hell out of Allen for getting to the point of national recognition, but he's lost on the sidelines. He's seemingly outcoached in just about every big ball game.

I'd venture to say that most teams would be in the same position if Oregon St and UConn were opponents in the first three weeks.

John Harbaugh wasn't conservative last night and Baltimore won themselves a game they probably shouldn't have. Imagine that.

Tomlin punted on 4th and 1 down two scores with 8 min left and one TO and only saw the ball once after. Steelers didn’t win. Shameful.

Didn’t see it so can’t really comment on it, but saw they blew a 22 point lead and then later a 13 point lead with less than 2 minutes to go. Credit Warren for never bowing out but that question kind of answers itself. They’ll likely outscore LN next week before losing to Carmel, then win big against two bad teams in LC and North Central to get above .500 for the first time this year, but I just don’t see any progression out of the Giants.

Is there serious progress? He has a losing record through 4.5 seasons. Is 2-3 this year with a team yielding almost 40 ppg and just inexcusably blew multiple double digits in a single game against an arch-rival that he’s 1-3 against. Highlight of the year is playing Center Grove close for a half. The two teams he’s beaten are a combined 0-10. Is that acceptable at Ben Davis?

At what point do we come out and say Simmons is in over his head? I’ve reluctantly given him the benefit of the doubt the last few years, but there seems to be no progress being made over on the West Side. Pretty inexcusable to lose that game in that fashion.

37-13 final. Bulldogs made it interesting there for a minute. Irish we’re up 17-0 early in the 2nd with blowout written all over it before CN recorded their first 1st down which also resulted in a TD on a 4th and long pass. From there, and stop me if you’ve heard this before, Cathedral sputtered multiple redzone opportunities due to lack of execution and penalties. Need to credit CN for hanging tough and making it a 4 quarter game. Most people, including myself, believed this would be a walkover and it certainly wasn’t after it appeared that way through the 1st quarter.

Sloppy. Had blowout written all over it early but CN hanging tough.

Cathedral 24 Columbus North 13 midway through the third.

It should be a penalty if you punt inside your opponents 40 yards line. I see it happen every Sunday.

To be fair, it was a Roncalli fan who started the post. Cathedral may not have their own home field on campus, but they ought to rename Roncalli's stadium "Cathedral South" as the Irish haven't lost there since 05.

Nobody is going to be sitting any players in this game as has been the case the last 6-7 (or however many) meetings that have all been classics aside from the one CG blowout. This is a huge game for both teams and for the second year in a row will be the marquee game in Indiana by a large magnitude. Agree with everything else though, playing surface won't have an effect on the game as both teams are playing on the same surface and the field is well-kept anyway. Should be another classic.

I think Tech has one of the best atmospheres in the city. Very, very cool stadium on a very nice campus that has an extremely old school feel. Playing surface is fine and there is more than adequate seating on both sides. As a fan, not to concerned with the locker rooms or press box, just there to watch football and Tech is a great place to do it.

I would start by reaching out to Arlington....

They have a field that they pay to service and maintain professionally. It's located at Arlington, hence why the game is being played there. Try again.

I agree, Tech has a phenomenal facility. Not sure it is an option to Cathedral anymore. Just thought it was ironic for a Roncalli fan of all people to chime in. Roncalli dropped Cathedral after a few drubbings awhile back and now wants to dictate where Cathedral hosts a game?

Just be glad Roncalli has ducked Cathedral for the last decade and get over it. The playing surface at Arlington is fine. It is a smaller venue but what other choice does Cathedral have? It's where they play their home games.