2A State Championship — Adams Central (13-1) vs Linton-Stockton (12-2)

[adambetz]

A battle of two of the best small public school programs will face off for 2A!!! bragging rights.

[Basementbias]

Twins going at it lol! I have the utmost respect for Linton and am excited for our Jets to play them at state. Hope for a great game!

[Miner_Pride]

Definitely gonna be awesome to be back up there  again.   Yeah I think both programs will have a lot of respect for each other.... obviously no built in animosity!  Seems like

we are similar is so many ways.   You know I will be bringing some stat work soon!   

[miner_35]

Many will say Linton should not be here after the Brownstown game. A lot of things could have happened differently that still resulted in a Miners win after the 1st 2-point conversion was ruled good. They battled back from down 21-8 and finished the game off in style. Fast forward to last Friday and Linton did what many thought was unthinkable. Beat Indy Lutheran at their place. The turf does not allow for the field to be an excuse, but with Willis out hurt, people will say they would have won with him. He did not play defense. Linton scored 40 points. There were only 1 or 2 plays that I truly think Willis would have definitely made, but only one of them would have been a sure TD. In the end, Linton is still playing after being doubted this whole postseason by everyone but most of the Linton Faithful.

Adams Central was not doubted nearly as much as the Miners due to their recent success in 1A. They were not tested in the playoffs up until last week, but that game was still 20-3 going into the 4th qtr. Andrean, WeBo, and LCC were the only teams in the North that were going to give AC a contest, IMO. LCC just happened to play the other 2 teams and came up short. I felt AC has been the best team in the North for most of this year.

I have seen these two programs tagged as the North and South Twins and it is obvious why. Both teams wear red home jerseys and helmets. They have both been bumped up to 2A due to the success factor and will have moved up/stayed in 2A due to enrollment. The Jets and Miners also run a similar offensive scheme, but the Miners now run it out of shotgun and pistol formations. We use to run the exact same offense in the 2000's, so the comparison is still there. You will see more passing from Linton than Adams Central, but both teams still want to run first. This game has a real shot at being the quickest State game in history. I know we pass more than we use to, but if both teams are running the ball well, look out! This game should be a fun one to watch. Adams Central is looking to get the win that has eluded them the last 4 years in 1A. Linton is looking to accomplish what the goal has been since 2016, win a 2A state Championship. 

 

I believe this game will be a close one throughout and very hard hitting. Friday cannot get here fast enough!

[foxbat]

I'm interested to see how this plays out.  When both were in 1A, they both had to get past Lutheran for a shot at a blue ring.  Linton was able to do it, convincingly, to eventually back in 2016 toobtain a blue ring.  AC faltered in three tries, culminating in three red rings. Linton has again knocked off Lutheran on the way to LOS.  Wonder if that's any type of confidence booster for Linton?

[miner_35]

9 minutes ago, foxbat said:

I'm interested to see how this plays out.  When both were in 1A, they both had to get past Lutheran for a shot at a blue ring.  Linton was able to do it, convincingly, to eventually back in 2016 to obtain a blue ring.  AC faltered in three tries, culminating in three red rings. Linton has again knocked off Lutheran on the way to LOS.  Wonder if that's any type of confidence booster for Linton?

It definitely does not hurt! But you can bet the boys know they are going to be in for a dog fight this Friday. They know what it feels like to be taken lightly. No extra fuel needs added to the fire.

[LawrenceGreene]

The difference 8 years makes. 2015/16, this thread would've been 20 pages long by now.

[Miner_Pride]

On 11/26/2024 at 2:48 PM, LawrenceGreene said:

The difference 8 years makes. 2015/16, this thread would've been 20 pages long by now.

True .. in sk.e ways that's not so bad lol

[Donnie Baker]

On 11/26/2024 at 2:48 PM, LawrenceGreene said:

The difference 8 years makes. 2015/16, this thread would've been 20 pages long by now.

And that guy from Liptons would still be saying that the 2009 North Davies team would match up with LCC! 

[Miner_Pride]

Congrats to the Flying Jets.... they did an excellent job shutting down anything Linton tried to do... they kept to their assignments perfectly.  Our pass game was non-existent, and the early picks put us in a bad hole against a team who loves being ahead and grinding the  clock.  But 13-0 early wasn't how we lost.  We couldn't stop the Jets offense.  i don't feel bad about it... Most people didn't.  Everett had huge holes on every one of the counters.. and Roach ate us up on those keepers that got huge chunks of yardage.  When we did get a break on the kickoff fumble to start 2nd half... and managed to score on 4th down.. I thought that was the moment we needed to get some ol' mo.... but no dice. When AC drove 75 yards with relative ease after stopping us on a key 4th down, to score... well I knew it would take a miracle.  2 more picks didn't qualify as that miracle.  i hate to see us lose so badly because Linton is better than that score indicated.  Perhaps we would not have won, but 4 picks certainly put our D in  bad spots.  But like I said...we were unable to move the ball against the Jets.  They stayed disciplined.  They knew where were going.  I think we pressed a bit getting down early.   Being down 25-6 in 2nd half you realize you'll only get the ball x amount of times...so you realize you "Gotta" get points.  Clearly the Jets were not going to let Oliver get open, or let anything get outside.  We couldn't do the same with Everitt or Roach.  and it seemed they got4-6 yards on every 1st down. Linton had chances to get the Jets off the field on several 3rd and 3, 6, 7 's... and could not.  the 4th and 7 conversion on the only completion of the game to Reber at the Miner 10 was giant play too.  Conversely... Linton did real poor on 3rd downs...which resulted in punts, and in a couple occasions turn over on downs.   Like I said.. wasn't out day.  Doesn't reflect on a terrific season many in Linton are calling the best coaching job Coach Brian Oliver and his staff have done.  Linton beat 4  year end Coaches Poll top 10s, and 3 top 5's to reach Lucas.  it will be a season MIner Fans and the folks in Linton to remember to ages.  Congrats against to a great team in the Flying Jets and Coach Mosser....   and thanks for the run and not just the memories of this year, but of each of the graduating seniors who gave their all for 4 years in the red and blue:  Jesse Voigtschild, Braylon McBride, Hank Gennicks, Hayden Feltner, Collin Webster, Tyson Walker, TBone Howard and Josh Singleton.

[Basementbias]

The Miners will probably be able to say after this coming weekend that they lost to state champions to start & end their season. Both from neighboring counties in 2 states. Just shows you that Linton will play anyone to improve themselves. A great program in Southern Indiana that went home with red medals & a trophy when I'm guessing most didn't expect it this year. I hope the community down there is proud of their team and remember they knocked out the 3x defending champions! That's a pretty good season!

[RegionFBFan]

The 2A State Title game was played in the semi state game between Andrean vs AC, 20-13 final. Winner of that game was going to be the State Champ.

Credit to AC defense! Andrean had 8 possessions in game with 5 in red zone and were only able to get 1 td, 2 fg’s, 1 fumble (huge turnover) and 1 turnover on downs at the 3.

Congrats AC on State Title, well deserved!

[Miner_Pride]

Lots of folks thought Lutheran was gonna win that state final... then again... lots of folks thought brownstown Central would win it.  We'd never know how Linton would have fared against Andrean.  lots of folks thought we would not beat Lutheran nor Brownstown.  Adams Central got on us early.  the two picks put us in a hole, but I won't say that's what beat us.  Unable to stop the jets on key 3rd downs.  i lost count.  they were 8 of 11....5 of those were 3rd and 5 or more... and the 4th and 7 conversion was brutal.  Then the flurry of insanity with 2 more Jet interceptions amidst 3 Adams Central scores in a span of 2:24 in the late 3rd.  went from 19-6 to 39-6 before I could think. As some of you know I keep insane stats...I have a word document that I do each week...  I am attaching here if anyone is interested....   High points were pretty much all Jet numbers.... 360-190 total yardage advantage.  AC 351 on the ground.  Linton's 2nd worst offensive showing of year (behind week 1 with Marion Local (Oh)) of 190. Key numbers that stand out.... Linton 1 of 10 on 3rd down.  Of course 4 Turnovers to the 1 for AC.  Adams Central had only 1 negative plays (-1), Miners took 7 negative plays.  Average start was a huge Jet advantage... near midfield was the average 47.6.  Linton was pinned most of the night on great kicking from Cowans, and great coverage.  The one Jet fumble gave us the only real time deep in AC territory.  Linton started at the 20, 18, 8, 24, 16, and 19 in 6 of 10 possessions. AC was 6-6 in Red Zone, they ran 43 of their 61 plays in Linton territory, only 20 Miner snaps happened in Jets turf.  Suprisingly the TOP was closer than I thought with SAC 26:17 Linton 21.43

AC led with Roach's 141 yards... killed us with keepers... I though Linton would do good on that type of stuff.  Roach was the difference.  3 TDs.  Heiser always was good it seemed for 4-5 yards... had 22 carries 92 yards 2 TD, Hirshy had a big run at the end for 59 yards on 10 touches 2 scores... and Everett was big too... 5 touches 59 yards.  again...we run that type of play and thought we'd be looking for it.. but it was wide open on 3 occasions for big plays.  Obivously AC didn't need to pass... was 1-6 for 9... but that 9 was the 4th and 7 play.  And of course I realize that Jerit Smith dropped a sure TD or close to it.   Another situation where I bet Roach could mass some good passing yards with Reber, Kaehr and Smith if they so wanted to.  Linton just couldn't get the pass game to work.  If it works, then the running game opens up.  Starting 0-4 and 2-7 with 2 picks didn't  get it done.  It's usually better, but AC was ready for what we do.  Passes were thrown into traffic as well.  Kaehr played the 1st one perfectly, I don't think McBride saw him sitting down there.  I also think Braylen had been counting on both Felter and Oliver to make the plays... but the Jets weren't gonna let that happen.  Reber did a great job all game.  So the pass was just 11 of 23 for just 58.  Last week McBride had 280+ and 2 receivers over 100 each.  Running game struggled as well.  132 on the ground for Linton was well below the 222 average ,but in games where we've been 120-150 rushing we;ve have 160-254 passing yards.. so the total O still rocks with 366.6 per game.  We just put 459 on Lutheran...  So hats off to the Jet defense.  

I had Hayden Bluhm with 11 stops, Max Kaehr with 10 as well as Cameron Fravel. 9 from Drew Kaehr was well.  Fravel with 1.5 for loss, Reber with 1 TFL as well as Bultemeier.  Hammond Max Kaehr and Schniz each with .5.  For Linton it's a tough way to go out.  I think Linton folks, including myself, thought playing a running style offense similar to our own, and something we had history with running it many years ourselves would help us.  Brownstown was in the same vein.  I also knew that they opposite would be true.... Adams Central would certainly know the rules and discipline to play defense against this set up.  I had hoped the passing game would be the difference maker.  it was.... but for the wrong reasons!    A side note== Linebacker Corey Andrews #52, A junior had 18 stops total.. .bringing his year talley to 195.  I do the stats myself, painfully going over the video to be sure who gets credit and who doesn't.  I hold to a strict 2 credit per play no matter how many take a guy down.  He broke a record from 1986 of 186 tackles, which I never thought would be broken.  Course he'd rather have the blue ring... but it's still an awesome stat.  And there were 3 games he never saw the field in 2nd half.  Also the might mite for Linton #8 Jesse Voigtschild  all 5'7 165 of him playing at Fullback, and both ways all year had 1,419 yards on 214 carries in his senior year.  A true warrior if ever was. 

I think the last thing worth mentioning was Paul Oliver.  He had a huge year as a sophomore with 1,164 rush yards in an offense where everyone knew he was gonna run the ball.  He did pass for 687, but it was mostly smashmouth football run til you stop me.  Coming into this season we knew that Coaches were going to mix things up to put him in different spots on the field...so McBride and well as #6 Goodman were gonna see QB time.  This was the plan all along.  When Paul hurt his shoulder late in 1st half against Marion Local it forced that to happen full time.  He came back the next week to play some defense but not much.  By week 3 he was back at WR, but we would not see him at QB until week 6 when he came in and played the 2nd half in a 46-14 win.  But even after that, McBride started at QB and I'd say was there 80% of snaps.  Partly because the offense was more dangerous with Paul at WR with Feltner giving McBride great options, plus McBride had shown he could be effective and elusive running the ball.  The Coaches shifted guys around those first 5 weeks. Voigtschild has always been a wingback.  Oliver would come in with situations like Lutheran where you wanted to grind out a time consuming drive.  In saying that... he did come in on back to back plays. both short distance on 3rd and 4th and was stood up.. so clearly AC was looking for this as well.   I just think its worth pointing out a kid who took a step aside for the better of the team as a whole.  He could have been unhappy about not getting QB time.. not getting the big rushing totals or the spotlight...  He ended up still being a huge part of why Linton was 12-3.  33 passing yards 5 of those TDs, 344 rushing with a 6+ yard per carry and 7 TDs on just 55 carries... but his 54 catches for 958 and 13 scores was the difference this year---with Feltner adding 56 catches and 744.  It's been a while since LInton has had 2200+ pass yards in a season!   

OK.... File attached.   I got Lutheran/Linton.. and Brownstown/Linton as well....

Adams Central Game Stats.docx

[Miner_Pride]

yeah. the 3 fumble recoveries for  Linton is misleading.   I fixed it on my copy... but Linton fumbled twice and Franklin recovered for Linton both times... or this could have been a 6 turnover game.  In reality AC fumbled only once...

[Basementbias]

Miner fans, Marion Local was up 33-0 after 1 in their state title game. Just put it in to be up 40-0 at the beginning of the 2nd.

[WCGrad92]

[Basementbias]

They are just ridiculous. Only 55 minutes from us at AC. They'd probably running clock our state champion Jets.

[Donnie Baker]

1 hour ago, WCGrad92 said:

I thought they had the perfect system so this wouldn’t happen. 

[Bobref]

The Linton Stockton people can take some consolation, in light of the way they got boatraced by Marion Local from Ohio early in the season, from the fact that Marion Local leads the Div. 6 championship game 60-0 at halftime. 

[BTF]

6 hours ago, Basementbias said:

They are just ridiculous. Only 55 minutes from us at AC. They'd probably running clock our state champion Jets.

Why sell Adams Central short? Transitive property suggests the two teams are equal. 

[Basementbias]

24 minutes ago, BTF said:

Why sell Adams Central short? Transitive property suggests the two teams are equal. 

I'm an AC guy, but if you have watched Marion Local play and their size advantage you would understand. Their defense would figure our offense out and their lines are no joke. We wouldn't match up well to their WRs besides the 3 or 4 headed monster in the back field. Might not be a running clock for sure but it could turn that way with MLs special teams play. I'd hope to put up a Minster style fight only falling 21-7. Minster was most likely the 2nd best D7 team and Columbus Grove the 3rd best. AC is probably somewhere between Minster & Columbus Grove. Grove lost 41-6 to ML in the semis and ML turned it over 3x in the red zone and 1 deep in CG territory leading to their only score. 

[Bobref]

31 minutes ago, BTF said:

Why sell Adams Central short? Transitive property suggests the two teams are equal. 

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PROJECT A MATCHUP
regular season (neutral field)
[2024] Marion Local (Maria Stein, OH) 41 (98%), [2024] Adams Central (Monroe, IN) 7 (2%)
playoffs (neutral field)
[2024] Marion Local (Maria Stein, OH) 40 (98%), [2024] Adams Central (Monroe, IN) 8 (2%)
 

 

[Bobref]

Actually, Calpreps projects that Marion Local would beat any team in Indiana on a neutral field, other than Brownsburg, Westfield, and Lawrence North.

[Bobref]

10 hours ago, Bobref said:

Actually, Calpreps projects that Marion Local would beat any team in Indiana on a neutral field, other than Brownsburg, Westfield, and Lawrence North.

And there are a total of 108 boys in the entire school! Of their 64 consecutive wins, 35 of them have come by shutout!

[BTF]

13 hours ago, Bobref said:

Actually, Calpreps projects that Marion Local would beat any team in Indiana on a neutral field, other than Brownsburg, Westfield, and Lawrence North.

All the more reason to take these computer rankings with a grain of salt.