Here is a stat for the haters…

[temptation]

My brief research finds that with Dwenger’s victory over Roncalli, 2025 will be the first year since 2000 in which a school located in Marion County failed to win a football state title.

Feel free to fact check.

[23andCounting]

4 minutes ago, temptation said:

My brief research finds that with Dwenger’s victory over Roncalli, 2025 will be the first year since 2000 in which a school located in Marion County failed to win a football state title.

Feel free to fact check.

Not surprised. Good stuff. 

[Impartial_Observer]

2 hours ago, temptation said:

My brief research finds that with Dwenger’s victory over Roncalli, 2025 will be the first year since 2000 in which a school located in Marion County failed to win a football state title.

Feel free to fact check.

So after 676,372 meaningless posts and dick measuring………

[temptation]

8 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

So after 676,372 meaningless posts and dick measuring………

Not sure why so angry…this could mean a multitude of things…

Is happening in every major American city.

[crimsonace1]

15 hours ago, temptation said:

My brief research finds that with Dwenger’s victory over Roncalli, 2025 will be the first year since 2000 in which a school located in Marion County failed to win a football state title.

Feel free to fact check.

Balance of power in Central Indiana has been shifting to the suburbs for a while now. Cascade, Westfield, Brownsburg and New Pal are all in booming suburban areas (and a sizable number of Roncalli's students are from the Greenwood/Whiteland areas). 

[temptation]

10 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

Balance of power in Central Indiana has been shifting to the suburbs for a while now. Cascade, Westfield, Brownsburg and New Pal are all in booming suburban areas (and a sizable number of Roncalli's students are from the Greenwood/Whiteland areas). 

Bingo.

[Bobref]

5 hours ago, temptation said:

Is happening in every major American city

Most metropolitan areas are diminishing in terms of quality of life. No reason why high school athletics in those area should not follow the trend. It’s no longer “white flight” from downtown. It’s “everyone who wants to better their situation flight” from downtown.

[temptation]

22 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Most metropolitan areas are diminishing in terms of quality of life. No reason why high school athletics in those area should not follow the trend. It’s no longer “white flight” from downtown. It’s “everyone who wants to better their situation flight” from downtown.

Can you blame them?

[Bobref]

55 minutes ago, temptation said:

Can you blame them?

Not in the least. It’s the American Dream.

[gonzoron]

1 hour ago, Bobref said:

Not in the least. It’s the American Dream.

[crimsonace1]

6 hours ago, Bobref said:

Most metropolitan areas are diminishing in terms of quality of life. No reason why high school athletics in those area should not follow the trend. It’s no longer “white flight” from downtown. It’s “everyone who wants to better their situation flight” from downtown.

And nowadays, you don't have to go downtown for jobs and entertainment. Jobs are dispersed and a lot of employers are now in the suburbs. In Indy, four of the eight pro sports teams play in Hamilton County. 

[Frozen Tundra]

2 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

And nowadays, you don't have to go downtown for jobs and entertainment. Jobs are dispersed and a lot of employers are now in the suburbs. In Indy, four of the eight pro sports teams play in Hamilton County. 

Besides the Fuel and Boom, what are the other two?

[Stoner]

10 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

Balance of power in Central Indiana has been shifting to the suburbs for a while now. Cascade, Westfield, Brownsburg and New Pal are all in booming suburban areas (and a sizable number of Roncalli's students are from the Greenwood/Whiteland areas). 

1984 Enrollments vs last reclassification enrollments:

Brownsburg: 1224/3297

Westfield: 464/2789

New Pal: 684/1209

Cascade: 520/546

One doesn’t fit the mold

[HoopsCoach]

18 minutes ago, Stoner said:

1984 Enrollments vs last reclassification enrollments:

Brownsburg: 1224/3297

Westfield: 464/2789

New Pal: 684/1209

Cascade: 520/546

One doesn’t fit the mold

Where did you find those enrollments from 1984?

[Stoner]

10 minutes ago, HoopsCoach said:

Where did you find those enrollments from 1984?

Gene Milner’s bball Record Book

[BDGiant93]

7 hours ago, Stoner said:

1984 Enrollments vs last reclassification enrollments:

Brownsburg: 1224/3297

Westfield: 464/2789

New Pal: 684/1209

Cascade: 520/546

One doesn’t fit the mold

That's the next ring outside the city. I'm sure if you threw in Plainfield, you'd see they've grown significantly.

[BDGiant93]

On 11/29/2025 at 8:56 PM, temptation said:

My brief research finds that with Dwenger’s victory over Roncalli, 2025 will be the first year since 2000 in which a school located in Marion County failed to win a football state title.

Feel free to fact check.

Are we sure that most outside the Central Indiana area see a difference between Indy and the donut counties?

[Impartial_Observer]

38 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

Are we sure that most outside the Central Indiana area see a difference between Indy and the donut counties?

About as much as people north of Greenwood thinking Kentucky is just south of Greenwood. 

[FastpacedO]

On 11/29/2025 at 8:56 PM, temptation said:

My brief research finds that with Dwenger’s victory over Roncalli, 2025 will be the first year since 2000 in which a school located in Marion County failed to win a football state title.

Feel free to fact check.

All I have to say is what a perfect catch you with your pants down call by the FW Dwenger coaching staff with that fake FG pass for a TD. Perfect call perfect place and won what was a tight game between both teams for the Saints!

8 hours ago, Stoner said:

1984 Enrollments vs last reclassification enrollments:

Brownsburg: 1224/3297

Westfield: 464/2789

New Pal: 684/1209

Cascade: 520/546

One doesn’t fit the mold

Cascade won't be far behind on the growth. The way Plainfield, Avon, Brownsburg, and Lebanon have grown. I wouldn't be surprised to see a huge growth over the next 10 years in Cascade area.

[23andCounting]

2 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

Are we sure that most outside the Central Indiana area see a difference between Indy and the donut counties?

Outside of a few private schools, isn't football inside the donut pretty lousy? I see it, and I'm from NE Indiana.

[temptation]

2 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

Are we sure that most outside the Central Indiana area see a difference between Indy and the donut counties?

Good question.  They should.

[crimsonace1]

14 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Besides the Fuel and Boom, what are the other two?

Ignite (volleyball) & Freight (indoor football)

6 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

That's the next ring outside the city. I'm sure if you threw in Plainfield, you'd see they've grown significantly.

Cascade's district starts just west of Plainfield, too, and that area is booming. Every time I drove to my mother-in-law's house east of Clayton, the areas around the Plainfield Elks (which is basically the district line) kept seeing new neighborhoods coming in. Lots of development coming at I-70/SR 39, too. 

[Stoner]

9 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

Ignite (volleyball) & Freight (indoor football)

Cascade's district starts just west of Plainfield, too, and that area is booming. Every time I drove to my mother-in-law's house east of Clayton, the areas around the Plainfield Elks (which is basically the district line) kept seeing new neighborhoods coming in. Lots of development coming at I-70/SR 39, too. 

The modest growth on the east side of the district is pretty well offset by the 7-8 older community ‘burgs whose school age kids dwindle yearly. The 70/39 corridor is all warehouses or truck stops (and Ted Everett) with no residential growth whatsoever. The prevailing thought is Cascade will retreat to 2A next cycle.

Growth will happen, but it’s a very minor factor at this point.

[GOLDRUSH1985]

I could see Fishers hitting 5K students by 2030 . 

[23andCounting]

35 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

I could see Fishers hitting 5K students by 2030 . 

Not surprised. Politics plays a factor. The current system is geared toward growth in Indy while leaving the smaller communities behind. As one politician stated, "we want to be like Chicago." Which I'm thankful for. Every time I drive through Indy, I'm reminded why it's nicer to live in a smaller town. But from a football standpoint, the schools in Indy are going to continue outpacing all other areas of the state unless they start breaking the schools in two.