Guest DT Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The North Central Conference is Indianas most venerable and most famous athletic conference since the inception of high school sports in Indiana It is home to legendary players, Teams, Coaches and basketball venues It is also home to the longest and most expensive travel commutes between member schools than any other conference in the state Most will say that the NCC will never die, it's an Indiana institution and it is resistant to the changes that impact other leagues That was all true until original member New Castle shocked the NCC and the entire state with its decision to leave for the more travel friendly Hoosier Heritage We are in a different world now, one that has put every entity firmly into the grip of Covid, and many long standing traditions and customs are being forced to change If the Lafayette schools pull out, let's assume a tidal wave of departures ensues as schools follow the New Castle route and look to stay closer to home Where does everybody land, and what does the conference landscape look like in a post NCC world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, DT said: Where does everybody land, and what does the conference landscape look like in a post NCC world? Let's start with this- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The HHC schools have no interest in moving. They are a well matched group and travel is minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, DT said: The HHC schools have no interest in moving. They are a well matched group and travel is minimal. ... and then someone else pulls a Rushville, and leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 As I have said earlier, an East-West split is the most logical: 3 Tippecanoe County schools plus Kokomo and Logansport make out the west while Anderson, Marion, Muncie Central, Richmond, and Tech comprising the east. Expansion will be needed. Lebanon, Western, and West Lafayette to the west, and I guess the eastern division can poach whomever they want: maybe Yorktown, Delta, and Jay County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears62 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 All 3 Lafayette schools should leave in my opinion... where to I’m not sure. The travel for them isn’t necessarily a staying point. A few of the schools are much further than Indy schools. Marion 1 and 1/2 hours, Richmond 2 hours, Muncie 2 hours, Kokomo 1 hour, Anderson 1 and 1/2 hours from Lafayette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Bears62 said: All 3 Lafayette schools should leave in my opinion... where to I’m not sure. The travel for them isn’t necessarily a staying point. A few of the schools are much further than Indy schools. Marion 1 and 1/2 hours, Richmond 2 hours, Muncie 2 hours, Kokomo 1 hour, Anderson 1 and 1/2 hours from Lafayette I feel that way also, and so should Kokomo and Logansport. The NCC covers too much real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Gipper said: The NCC covers too much real estate. NCC- No Concept of Cost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said: NCC- No Concept of Cost Spot on. It’s an old boy’s network, I just wonder if and when simple economics will win out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBH Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) the 1980's want to know does anybody really care? Edited February 8, 2021 by BigBH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 8:33 PM, Gipper said: As I have said earlier, an East-West split is the most logical: 3 Tippecanoe County schools plus Kokomo and Logansport make out the west while Anderson, Marion, Muncie Central, Richmond, and Tech comprising the east. Expansion will be needed. Lebanon, Western, and West Lafayette to the west, and I guess the eastern division can poach whomever they want: maybe Yorktown, Delta, and Jay County. I feel you'll have a hard time convincing Western and West Lafayette that a newly re-jiggered NCC is better for them than the Hoosier Conference is now. Especially the River Rats................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I still cannot believe Tech is in this conference. Tech needs to make the move to conference Indiana. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Indiana Fan said: I still cannot believe Tech is in this conference. Tech needs to make the move to conference Indiana. I am and have always been someone who believes conferences should be based off of location and drive time. I have posted my opinions and stances and proposals of other conferences in other threads. The NCC has history, but these distances of schools are very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Isnt Lebanon growing and nearly 5A? The following might be an interesting setup : Jeff Harrison McCutcheon Kokomo Lebanon Logansport Plenty of open dates for these schools to still play old rivals yet still have a conference championship opportunuity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) And Western is a larger 4A in football. So you could add them to the mix. Edited February 8, 2021 by Obi-Wan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, DT said: Isnt Lebanon growing and nearly 5A? The following might be an interesting setup : Jeff Harrison McCutcheon Kokomo Lebanon Logansport Plenty of open dates for these schools to still play old rivals yet still have a conference championship opportunuity Lebanon is growing yes. And certainly has lots of potential as it is a sports community. They would need to show they could belong first. They have struggled in athletics recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Indiana Fan said: Lebanon is growing yes. And certainly has lots of potential as it is a sports community. They would need to show they could belong first. They have struggled in athletics recently. As the Indianapolis area urban sprawl moves northward along I-65 Lebanon stands poised to become the next Zionsville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBH Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Muda69 said: As the Indianapolis area urban sprawl moves northward along I-65 Lebanon stands poised to become the next Zionsville. Not anytime soon...upscale housing in Lebanon not there yet.... Zionsville folks with cash will just transfer junior and drive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Muda69 said: I feel you'll have a hard time convincing Western and West Lafayette that a newly re-jiggered NCC is better for them than the Hoosier Conference is now. Especially the River Rats................ Not necessarily. Most Hoosier Conference schools are 2 and 3A. WLHS needs to find tougher competition or they’ll always get bounced in the first round of the Sectional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDGiant93 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 7:16 AM, DT said: That was all true until original member New Castle shocked the NCC and the entire state with its decision to leave for the more travel friendly Hoosier Heritage Didn't the NCC pretty much purge New Castle or am I not remembering that correctly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Gipper said: Not necessarily. Most Hoosier Conference schools are 2 and 3A. WLHS needs to find tougher competition or they’ll always get bounced in the first round of the Sectional. You could say the same thing about Western. This past season they had a team that was really good and should have at least been in contention for the Sectional crown. Only to get bounced by Lebanon again in the first round. They rolled through the regular season with Heights being their only stumble. They even beat Western Boone. They are another school I could see that would make this hypothetical move if it gave them more competition for the State Tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Obi-Wan said: You could say the same thing about Western. This past season they had a team that was really good and should have at least been in contention for the Sectional crown. Only to get bounced by Lebanon again in the first round. They rolled through the regular season with Heights being their only stumble. They even beat Western Boone. They are another school I could see that would make this hypothetical move if it gave them more competition for the State Tournament. Wait a second, I thought the Hoosier Conference touts itself, at least here on the GID, as the perfect conference schedule to get a football team ready for the tournament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Muda69 said: Wait a second, I thought the Hoosier Conference touts itself, at least here on the GID, as the perfect conference schedule to get a football team ready for the tournament? I would agree to an extent, for the smaller schools like LCC or Tipton when they make runs, but the Schools like Western or WL are could be seen as held back at times. Don't get me wrong I love the HC but we are talking HYPOTHETICAL I am sure both programs would consider a move if it helped them make a State run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, Obi-Wan said: I would agree to an extent, for the smaller schools like LCC or Tipton when they make runs, but the Schools like Western or WL are could be seen as held back at times. Don't get me wrong I love the HC but we are talking HYPOTHETICAL I am sure both programs would consider a move if it helped them make a State run. I see your point. But I don't think even a re-tooled NCC as described here would help the likes of a Western or WL in a tournament run, not unless the overall strength of the NCC programs improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 13 hours ago, Gipper said: Not necessarily. Most Hoosier Conference schools are 2 and 3A. WLHS needs to find tougher competition or they’ll always get bounced in the first round of the Sectional. Huh? I am pretty sure that Sectional the last few years, regardless if they played in their conference or the SEC, would've made that much of a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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