Cappy Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) On 1/27/2022 at 4:39 PM, Esso Ayche said: OR does the PAC implement a conference success factor?? 😅 But how do we move GS up? 😀 Small School division has had two different winners so far. Edited January 29, 2022 by Cappy Quote
HHPatriots Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) There is NOTHING to this...but I like 812's thinking...nice conversation piece, although I'd want to swap out Washington. Edited January 31, 2022 by HHPatriots Quote
tango Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 6 hours ago, HHPatriots said: There is NOTHING to this...but I like 812's thinking...nice conversation piece, although I'd want to swap out Washington. No way we trade Jasper for Washington... Quote
oldtimeqb Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, tango said: No way we trade Jasper for Washington... I think he was referring to trading out Washington for another of the PAC juggernauts like Pike Central, Tell City, Forest Park, or Tecumseh to form the new Big 8. Personally, I think Jasper leaves the SIAC right after Michigan leaves the Big Ten to join the MAC. 2 Quote
Titan32 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, oldtimeqb said: I think he was referring to trading out Washington for another of the PAC juggernauts like Pike Central, Tell City, Forest Park, or Tecumseh to form the new Big 8. Personally, I think Jasper leaves the SIAC right after Michigan leaves the Big Ten to join the MAC. Jasper has the perfect home and they won't leave any time soon. 812hoops does some amazing things for local kids and their exposure but this suggestion was really really dumb. There are several divisional conferences in the state. I say add Tecumseh to Small school PAC and Vincennes to Big school PAC and call it a day. Scheduling just got a little easier in the PAC and the SIAC gains some much needed non-conference matchups. Seems like a win, win, win. 3 Quote
OldHatchetHog76 Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 I for one hope VL finds their way back on our schedule. Lots of good, old-fashioned, clean hate between our two schools. 2 Quote
HHPatriots Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 19 hours ago, tango said: No way we trade Jasper for Washington... That wasn't the implication. Washington wouldn't want to jump from the frying pan to the fire. this was just make believe anyway. By the way, Washington's current middle school squad is good. 1 Quote
OldHatchetHog76 Posted February 2, 2022 Posted February 2, 2022 12 hours ago, HHPatriots said: By the way, Washington's current middle school squad is good. This is very encouraging to hear as an alum who no longer is in the area. Even after a step back last year, I truly believe Coach Morris has the Hatchets on the right path from the varsity program all the way down to youth league ball. 1 Quote
SEAL_63 Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 Looks like I'm gonna be spending a lot more time with you all. 1 3 Quote
CheapSeats Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, SEAL_63 said: Looks like I'm gonna be spending a lot more time with you all. Dont count on it! Quote
Titan32 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Posted February 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, CheapSeats said: Dont count on it! What...is Mt. Vernon going to vote NO? Quote
Titan32 Posted February 7, 2022 Author Posted February 7, 2022 What schools would vote against Vincennes Lincoln and Tecumseh joining the PAC and why? Quote
Wildcat 1 Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 12:13 PM, Titan32 said: What...is Mt. Vernon going to vote NO? Can you confirm that you are the father of #2? Good player. Quote
Titan32 Posted February 7, 2022 Author Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wildcat 1 said: Can you confirm that you are the father of #2? Good player. I've been here since 2011. The old timers all know me. I see you're listed as a parent. Can you confirm who you are the parent of? Either are probably irrelevant to the topic at hand. Edited February 7, 2022 by Titan32 Quote
Cappy Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Titan32 said: What schools would vote against Vincennes Lincoln and Tecumseh joining the PAC and why? Well I doubt anyone with an actual vote is going to get on here and proclaim their intentions, so its all hearsay... I've heard some grumblings that the previous big 8 schools are in no hurry to help out a school that abandoned them for greener pastors just a couple years ago. A school (along with Jasper) that left those schools with holes in their schedules to fill and essentially ended the big 8 conference. Now that could just be water cooler talk between friends or it could have some truth to it. I expect Tecumseh football to be part of the PAC again soon. Quote
HHPatriots Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Cappy said: Well I doubt anyone with an actual vote is going to get on here and proclaim their intentions, so its all hearsay... I've heard some grumblings that the previous big 8 schools are in no hurry to help out a school that abandoned them for greener pastors just a couple years ago. A school (along with Jasper) that left those schools with holes in their schedules to fill and essentially ended the big 8 conference. Now that could just be water cooler talk between friends or it could have some truth to it. I expect Tecumseh football to be part of the PAC again soon. How does Tecumseh stack up in the small side of the PAC? Quote
Esso Ayche Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Wildcat 1 said: Can you confirm that you are the father of #2? I can confirm that I fathered a #2 this morning. Does that help? 3 Quote
Wildcat 1 Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Esso Ayche said: I can confirm that I fathered a #2 this morning. Does that help? It does, thank you. Quote
Esso Ayche Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, HHPatriots said: How does Tecumseh stack up in the small side of the PAC? They already play most of the small PAC... seems like a natural jump to me. It looks like they'd just need to add SR and SS. SR in most years probably isn't a favorable game for them. SS perhaps more so. Quote
HHPatriots Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Esso Ayche said: They already play most of the small PAC... seems like a natural jump to me. It looks like they'd just need to add SR and SS. SR in most years probably isn't a favorable game for them. SS perhaps more so. Yeah, I knew they played Tell City. SS would be a good matchup for them for sure. Southridge will be rough no doubt. But it happens... Quote
Titan32 Posted February 7, 2022 Author Posted February 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, Cappy said: Well I doubt anyone with an actual vote is going to get on here and proclaim their intentions, so its all hearsay... I've heard some grumblings that the previous big 8 schools are in no hurry to help out a school that abandoned them for greener pastors just a couple years ago. A school (along with Jasper) that left those schools with holes in their schedules to fill and essentially ended the big 8 conference. Now that could just be water cooler talk between friends or it could have some truth to it. I expect Tecumseh football to be part of the PAC again soon. I have gotten wind of some of that "bad taste" from former Big 8 schools. But, at the end of the day people make mistakes. Grown adults in charge of educating our children probably shouldn't hold long term grudges. With regard to your second sentence, wouldn't the PAC want Tecumseh and Vincennes as a package deal? Quote
Cappy Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, HHPatriots said: How does Tecumseh stack up in the small side of the PAC? I'd say that varies from year to year, when they have "up" years they have an opportunity to win the small PAC. When they have "down" years they finish bottom half. The last couple years they would have been bottom half (close losses to NP, FP, and TC) but I believe they have some good groups coming... They sure had their chance to beat us this last year and we won the small PAC. The game was 23 -18 and we were behind until the fourth quarter. Quote
Cappy Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Titan32 said: I have gotten wind of some of that "bad taste" from former Big 8 schools. But, at the end of the day people make mistakes. Grown adults in charge of educating our children probably shouldn't hold long term grudges. With regard to your second sentence, wouldn't the PAC want Tecumseh and Vincennes as a package deal? I believe the "bad taste" was more than just how things ended. I do think VL would be a solid addition to our conference, they would be at the top in every sport I would imagine. Quote
Titan32 Posted February 7, 2022 Author Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) Has anyone heard if Tecumseh actually likes this idea? I don't know why they wouldn't but I'm sure I don't have all the decision making factors that they do. Edited February 7, 2022 by Titan32 Quote
SEAL_63 Posted February 7, 2022 Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Cappy said: I've heard some grumblings that the previous big 8 schools are in no hurry to help out a school that abandoned them for greener pastors just a couple years ago. A school (along with Jasper) that left those schools with holes in their schedules to fill and essentially ended the big 8 conference. Now that could just be water cooler talk between friends or it could have some truth to it. 3 hours ago, Titan32 said: I have gotten wind of some of that "bad taste" from former Big 8 schools. But, at the end of the day people make mistakes. Grown adults in charge of educating our children probably shouldn't hold long term grudges. With regard to your second sentence, wouldn't the PAC want Tecumseh and Vincennes as a package deal? VL was in the same position as MV, Boonville, Washington, Princeton. The moment Jasper decided it wanted out and transfer to the SIAC, the Big 8 was done for regardless. Lincoln was never a proponent for leaving the Big 8 just to be clear. My feelings are the same as they were 2 years ago, I liked idea of being an SIAC or PAC member. I hope the Alices are voted in. Edited February 7, 2022 by SEAL_63 Quote
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