Muda69 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 https://www.npr.org/2019/05/15/723518379/u-s-births-fell-to-a-32-year-low-in-2018-cdc-says-birthrate-is-at-record-level Quote The U.S. birthrate fell again in 2018, to 3,788,235 births — representing a 2% drop from 2017. It's the lowest number of births in 32 years, according to a new federal report. The numbers also sank the U.S. fertility rate to a record low. Not since 1986 has the U.S. seen so few babies born. And it's an ongoing slump: 2018 was the fourth consecutive year of birth declines, according to the provisional birthrate report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birthrates fell for nearly all racial and age groups, with only slight gains for women in their late 30s and early 40s, the CDC says. The news has come as something of a surprise to demographers who say that with the U.S. economy and job market continuing a years-long growth streak, they had expected the birthrate to show signs of stabilizing, or even rising. But instead, the drop could force changes to forecasts about how the country will look — with an older population and fewer young workers to sustain key social systems. "It's a national problem," says Dowell Myers, a demographer at the University of Southern California. "The birthrate is a barometer of despair," Myers says in response to the CDC data. Explaining that idea, he says young people won't make plans to have babies unless they're optimistic about the future. ..... So whose going to pay for all those federal entitlements like social security and medicare? No babies means no new wage slaves having the fruits of their labor confiscated for redistribution. Is immigration the answer? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_K Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 16 hours ago, Muda69 said: "The birthrate is a barometer of despair," Myers says in response to the CDC data. Explaining that idea, he says young people won't make plans to have babies unless they're optimistic about the future. Unfortunately, a lot of young people feel like there is nothing to be optimistic about. 16 hours ago, Muda69 said: Is immigration the answer? My opinion: Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) On 5/16/2019 at 5:37 AM, Coach_K said: Unfortunately, a lot of young people feel like there is nothing to be optimistic about. Ya think? Edited May 18, 2019 by DanteEstonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Not gonna lie, I told my parents I was going to wait until they died before I had kids, and maybe I’m not alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 6 hours ago, TrojanDad said: that had to be so uplifting to your parents....you are quite the guy. If you have ever had to call law enforcement due to the actions of a parent, you can then judge me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabash82 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/18/2019 at 12:08 AM, DanteEstonia said: Not gonna lie, I told my parents I was going to wait until they died before I had kids, and maybe I’m not alone? You must be so much fun at family get-togethers! Did you give them a deadline? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabash82 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I don't think that relative generational "optimism" has much to do with this. The decline in U.S. birthrate has been occurring over generations, and it follows a pattern you see in most nations as they gain prosperity. I think a common reason is that for most societies, modernization and prosperity tend to go hand-in-hand with women in that society gaining much greater autonomy. And for many, many of these women, autonomy means they control directly how many children they will have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Wabash82 said: Did you give them a deadline? I figured I’d let fate take care of that. And since my mom had breast cancer last year and my dad broke two bones, hopefully the deadline is near 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Wabash82 said: I don't think that relative generational "optimism" has much to do with this. The decline in U.S. birthrate has been occurring over generations, and it follows a pattern you see in most nations as they gain prosperity. I think a common reason is that for most societies, modernization and prosperity tend to go hand-in-hand with women in that society gaining much greater autonomy. And for many, many of these women, autonomy means they control directly how many children they will have. Well that obviously needs to change. At least if you are a member of certain institutions like the Alabama state legislature............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 On 5/18/2019 at 12:08 AM, DanteEstonia said: Not gonna lie, I told my parents I was going to wait until they died before I had kids, and maybe I’m not alone? Being a male, you understand you can't do this by yourself........ right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_K Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said: Being a male, you understand you can't do this by yourself........ right? Just out of fairness, a woman cannot do it by herself either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabash82 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said: Being a male, you understand you can't do this by yourself........ right? 9 minutes ago, Coach_K said: Just out of fairness, a woman cannot do it by herself either. Duh. No one can do it without the stork! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said: Being a male, you understand you can't do this by yourself........ right? Tbh, mail-order brides are still a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Wabash82 said: Duh. No one can do it without the stork! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 3:41 PM, Muda69 said: https://www.npr.org/2019/05/15/723518379/u-s-births-fell-to-a-32-year-low-in-2018-cdc-says-birthrate-is-at-record-level So whose going to pay for all those federal entitlements like social security and medicare? No babies means no new wage slaves having the fruits of their labor confiscated for redistribution. Is immigration the answer? It's gotta be Trump's fault....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARRYOSAMA Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 hours ago, swordfish said: It's gotta be Trump's fault....... triggered 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 hours ago, swordfish said: It's gotta be Trump's fault....... I would say this is one case where he is doing EVERYTHING he can; or at least there was a time when he was trying to help. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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