Bash Riprock

How about all the coaches and players? Wouldn't they know best? I am personally not a fan of jock sniffing sportswriters....and they blackball more people than anyone....plus are biased toward regional candidates.

It’s called humor….lighten up Francis Then again, it could be a reason why the post season should count. He didn’t look like a MVP against the 49ers at home

I agree there is a potential for recency bias...there would have to be a more objective equation to reduce the subjectivity.

That is not always the case for MVP's. Depends on the division and conference for the given year. I've seen league MVP's pick up some pretty worthless stats over the final games. Never said that.... Saying playoff games should be a factor in the equation for those that play them. May be a "value" to his team, but doesn't mean he is the " most valuable" of all teams

Playing games for all the marbles separate the wheat from the chaff

Hey T...don't chip your teeth putting the gun in your mouth. Safety first! Career 11-9 in the playoffs....5-3 at Lambeau. 1 SB win. Not bad at all. Just not MVP material in the post season

Great regular season Aaron....as usual.

My discussion is not about racial disparity with head coach hiring, but directed toward Brian Flores as a leader. As the Dolphins were improving over the past couple of years, I asked a good friend who is a big Fins fan if he was excited about the future. His response was he was concerned about what was going on internally. I wasn't sure what he meant, so I asked for specifics. He then told me that the rumor was that Flores was considered "toxic" within the organization. I wasn't sure what he meant, but I left it. This was a couple of months ago...definitely prior to his separation from the Dolphins. I then read this opinion....and it does have me scratching my head. Without getting into the alleged racism, is it possible that Flores needs to improve and mature as a leader? In other words, does he also need to look at himself internally and see where he can improve his leadership style? I am in no way shape or form trying to diminish a bigger issue....just thinking about Flores individually. Is there some potential that he rubs people the wrong way? Now, if they prove that Miami was tanking games deliberately, then there is zero doubt the owner and management team lacks ethics and should be dealt with harshly. Go tons of respect for you Yuccaguy....we fellow Lutherans have to stick together!! https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2022-02-10-doug-gottlieb-toxic-brian-flores-looks-unlikeable-after-lovie-smith-burn/ This is where Brian Flores DOESN’T GET IT, and didn’t get it when he got fired in Miami. I hear people all the time are like ‘Well, he’s a great coach’, no one is saying that he's not, but the ‘coaching’ is only a portion of being a head coach. You have to manage ‘up’ [with the front office] and manage ‘down’ [with the players], and he couldn’t manage up. The facts are different from the feelings, they just are, and here are the facts: the general manager in Miami, the assistant general manager, the director of player personnel – they are ALL Black men. They wanted him GONE. It was an ‘us’ or ‘him’, and the owner was like ‘I’m going to side with these guys.’ When I said Flores needed to be more contrite, anyone who has ever lost a job or lost an opportunity – at some point you just got to go ‘ya know, sometimes it actually IS me.’ It’s ME and the way I handled myself. He may have been misperceived, it’s totally reasonable to go like ‘ya know, I probably came across as a little brash, a little harsh, it was my first job, I had only been in New England, I only watched Bill Belichick and how he handled things…’ His story of the disconnect with non-Patriot people is the same story we saw in Detroit [Matt Patricia], the same story we’ve seen with Charlie Weis, the same story we saw with Eric Mangini; you go through all the Patriots’ assistants it’s all the same thing, and he’s the only one going ‘nah, it wasn’t me, it was them.’

Muda, you can give me all the down votes you want....truly not much of a motivator for me. My comment wasn't directed toward any one person. Pretty much most comments. Jets vs The Sharks If that you "feel" my comment in a less than positive way, well sorry...nothing personal to you intended. Hopefully, we are all just bored without football.

After a few days of being away, I came back and read this thread. I will never get the lost time back......

BK2 is a far better dancer…..

Interesting data…..from this article… ARMANDO SALGUERO: BRIAN FLORES CLAIMS RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IN NFL HIRING PRACTICES, SO LET’S EXAMINE HIS HIRING PRACTICES Flores had 20 coaches on his 2021 coaching staff, with 15 of those white and five black. Flores hired four offensive coordinators during his time with the Dolphins, including co-coordinators in 2021. Three of those four are white. Flores hired four offensive line coaches during his tenure, and three of those four are white. Flores hired two defensive coordinators during his time as head coach, one black and one white. Flores hired four quarterback or assistant quarterback coaches during his three years, and three of those four are white, with Jim Caldwell the only exception. Caldwell, it should be noted, worked under Flores for a couple of months but departed before the 2019 season began, citing health issues. Flores hired one special teams coordinator during his time as coach, that being Danny Crossman, who is white. I think that’s quite a theory that tanking is racially motivated. That would demand proof/facts.

I understand and read about this. I see 2 separate but equally concerning issues that demand investigation. I just was trying to understand the post that focused on tanking. I don’t see tanking as a racial issue.

Totally agree, but is “tanking” race driven? While completely wrong and destroys integrity of the game, (if proven) wouldn’t an owner done same with a coach regardless of his skin color? Guess I’m not seeing the correlation, but open to be educated.

Feels like a USFL or Arena football team name....... I like this logo....

Good for him. I thought he might end up a South Dakota State Jackrabbit like his Dad. but the young man is blazing his own trail!!

Truly is….

What a classy, fierce competitor. His retirement words....wow. Well done TB....legend!

His oldest son transferred from Miami of Ohio to join his Dad at IU. Middle son just enrolled for the spring semester at IU and youngest son still at Bloomington South is an IU verbal. My guess is that the middle and youngest sons will flip. (both 4 stars) Huge loss for IU on the field and I am guessing with the family culture.

Couldn't that be said for a number of NFL middle linebackers past and present? Doesn't mean they weren't dominate at their position. you said it better than me....I am not in agreement with the Butkus comment, but overall, totally agree

He didn't do it on his own....and because the NFL was so very different and didn't depend on the QB nearly as much as today, I struggle with your rationale. Heck, if you go back and look at his history, most seasons he shared the starting duties. He did win the MVP one of his years, and did go into the HOF in 1965, so I can see where you make the argument. I agree that timeframe was different than today....but he much has tossed it around a little to be the all-time Bears leader in interceptions thrown.

Luckman only threw for more than 2000 yds twice and is the all time Bear's leader with interceptions thrown.......still holds that record. (132)