BDGiant93

I know coaches who would love to have a 10th game, but you're asking this of the same folks who allow Ben Davis to host Brownsburg in week one of the 6A tournament. That's a different kettle of fish, though.

He's got a heck of an arm. He'll get that accuracy dialed in and will become a real problem for the next few years.

That's correct. BD gambled for an INT on one play to Duff and missed. Duff returned punt to the BD 9, and the Giants failed to cover a sky kick correctly which led to a Russell return. That's 21 points. BD's defense gave up 107 yards passing and 124 yards (on 40 carries) rushing including the 58 yarder that Duff caught and ran in after the gamble.

Ben Davis 49, North Central 7 Giants get back on track with hopefully a full and healthy offense. Center Grove 35, Cathedral 28 Trojans just win. I think they'll do it again. Carmel 28, Lawrence Central 7 (w/o Luter), Carmel 28, Lawrence Central 27 (with Luter) LC had Ben Davis. They were gutted at the end. Completely gutted. Don't know why Luter didn't play against BD. If they don't play him, no way that they beat that Carmel D. If they have him, should be a really good one. Christian Brothers 38, Warren 21 CB looks scary if you go to their Max Preps. I'll take them to beat WC on the long road trip.

I watched it, and it's still hard to believe.

Congratulations to the Trojans. Great run for sure.

Coach Simmons is on record that as long as he's head coach he'll continue wanting to play Center Grove and Carmel. He still considers them part of the MIC. He's been vocal.

I don't see the MIC expanding until something happens with one of the other major conferences. I think they stick at six. Cathedral has always played all over the state and out of state. Heck, they even went to Tennessee a couple of years ago. Not a new schedule.

I get that, but I also see several teams on the list Warren would beat. That said, I can't really argue with you on this.

I second @temptationon LC. That football team is scary. Will Patterson has done a great job putting together a program from the ashes.

Let me start with the last game first... Carmel is good, but they are not great. The Greyhounds gave up a ton of yards to the Giants, but BD couldn't get out of its own way with penalties and the continued inability to stop big plays. I don't think they are THAT much better than Warren. I think it's a two TD affair. Carmel 35-21 over Warren. Center Grove should beat Lawrence North, but I think that the Wildcats have discovered something. I think they hang close and maybe CG hits a couple of TD's in the 4th to pull away. Center Grove 42, LN 28 Pike should have won a couple of games this year, but they couldn't close the door on opponents. I think that they are the better of the "o-fers" in the conference. I think Mike Brevard celebrates his first win. Pike 35, NC 14 Finally, Ben Davis should win this game. I think, as you said @temptationthat the Giants have more playmakers. I think the Giants want that 12th MIC title a lot. I think they're disappointed in what happened in their three close losses and want to close out an undefeated MIC slate, albeit without Carmel and CG to Coach Simmons' chagrin, for the first time since 2017. All of that said, I don't think there's any way this isn't a one possession football game in the end. Maybe the team that has the ball last will win it. Will Patterson for Coach of the Year and for showing what you can do with a program like LC's. Makes you wonder how NC keeps missing the boat. Ben Davis 31, Lawrence Central 28

My comment was tongue in cheek since essentially that's what you had with the old RCA dome turf and many of the "Astroturf" fields prior to Fieldturf.

Field turf schmield turf. Let's go back to concrete and carpet.

I think you're pretty spot on in the Ben Davis/Carmel game. History would favor the Giants because this series is tied again for the 8th time since 1996 and Carmel has not led the series since 1995. The Giants always seem to win the "series tied" matchups. The only game I see different is the Warren/LN game. Lawrence North's a good football team. Not sure why they didn't put it together exactly. They really fought back twice from a couple of BD haymakers. I think that game with Warren is a one score affair. Warren wins though, 28-24

I, for one, am glad the Giants and the Greyhounds appear to be playing into the future. This series (first played in 1958 and now every year since 1981) existed before the MIC, so it's good to see that it exists post-MIC for Carmel. The series is tied up at 24. The series has been tied 8 times dating back to 1996/97, but Carmel hasn't led the series since 1995. This is usually quite a good one.

Especially since he was a former assistant there at CG.

We enjoy using it in our pregame shows at WBDG.

It wasn't always puppy dogs and rainbows on the Westside. I don't know the details of what's going on at Warren, but I do know that Mike is reflective enough to do that, yes. I will admit, full disclosure, that I'm a little biased though because I consider Coach Kirschner not only a friend...but a good friend. My biggest compliment to Mike is that his kids still all love to be around him. He's a great father, and I've seen the difference he makes in young people's lives. If it's fixable, he'll fix it.

No. I was saying that I know you (or Warren) have the right person to fix it.

Mike has a philosophy in interviews. When the team wins, it's credit to the team. When the team loses, it's always on the coaches. "________________________________, and that's on me." The blank would be whatever went wrong.

Having worked with Mike Kirschner for 18 years at Ben Davis, I know you have the right person.

In 2019, Ben Davis beat North Central to create a three-way tie for a MIC Championship. They went 4-3 in 2020 and then have won one MIC game since. That's a swan dive. I think Warren is more a speed bump.

💯 They can look right to Center Grove.

Carmel 49, North Central 0 Center Grove 35, LC 24 Ben Davis 49, LN 14 WC 17, Pike 14

The Giants of Ben Davis, 42 The Warriors of Warren Central, 28 The 98th Circle City Showdown is in the books. 58-37-3 now in the series in favor of Warren.