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PS - I will take 10,000 seeding/qualification/neutral site thread discussions over a COVID related one any day! LOL I hope everyone is doing well and we have a successful tournament!

You and @Footballking16 are arguing a point that no one has claimed to be true. @Titan32 said The only person that even tried to compare Week 2 vs. a sectional game was FootballKing. His point was a regular season game in Indiana vs a regular season game in Illinois or Ohio with a qualifying system. Personally, I do not like the "all-in" format for our football tournament. (It really shouldn't be called a playoff, to be honest.) I do agree with Titan32's main premise - the current regular season DOES mean something. If someone thinks it doesn't, then I am afraid they are missing out on the big picture of HS football.

Ah. That’s it. I knew NP was involved somehow. The year the game was played at GS, I think Mater Dei offered to play NP at NP, but they wanted to stand on the home side. At least that was the rumor I heard. But Coach Goebel’s dislike for Saturday games at all costs is well known.

I'm coming around to the idea, but my biggest sticking point is what you have in 6A and 2A. Is it asking the impossible for Homestead's Athletic Director to host and get workers for the 4A regional while their team plays that same night? Same with Harrison (WL). It could be possible, but in my experience the PA, clock, stats, gates, concession workers, etc. are pretty dedicated workers. They would most likely want to see the team play in the regional vs. working a game of two teams they have no connection to. If this could be addressed, I would be 100% on board with the idea.

I remember Reitz hosting Silver Creek (when they had just started their program) when SC was supposed to host. The IHSAA deemed the stadium unfit to host. I also remember Mater Dei hosting a game at North Posey because all the fields in the city were occupied for Round 1. But I don't remember a switch ever due to a regular season game/result.

Sadly it sounds like they are... but the players have been "contact traced" out to quarantine. Never before have we tested people with NO symptoms and quarantined completely healthy individuals just IN CASE. But I digress...

Southpaw did a nice job breaking down 40. I'm sure there are others who know more about 30 & 32 and can talk about those matchups. But I'm intrigued by the other SIAC sectionals 15 & 24. SECTIONAL 15 Sect Class Overall Evansville North 1- 0 1- 0 5- 2 Bloomington South 1- 0 3- 1 4- 3 Bloomington North 0- 1 3- 1 3- 3 Castle 0- 1 0- 1 5- 1 I'm still not used to the #15 instead of #16 number for Ev North and Castle. Years of being matched up with the Terre Hautes or east to New Albany/Jeffersonville/Floyd Central have been paused the last 2 years as this has become the I-69 sectional. Former regional foes are now battling in the same sectional. The week 1 matchup between Castle and North (14-7 final score) seems like months ago now. I'm curious if they get a rematch week 2 after their bye weeks or if bus on I-69 time. SECTIONAL 24 Sect Class Overall Evansville Central 4- 0 4- 0 7- 0 Jasper 3- 1 3- 1 5- 2 Evansville Memorial 2- 2 2- 2 4- 3 Evansville Reitz 1- 3 1- 3 2- 5 Northview 0- 0 0- 0 5- 2 Boonville 0- 0 0- 0 4- 2 Evansville Harrison 0- 4 0- 4 0- 7 Just like last year, the BYE looms large as one of 7 teams gets a week off. A lot of potential rematches are possible. We no longer have to speculate how Jasper matches up with Reitz and Central as in previous years either. Same with Memorial as they are now playing 4A. Northview is quietly having a good season outside the view of most SW Indiana fans. Central and Jasper are the two favorites. Who gets to host the potential matchup and will it be the first round like Reitz/Central always seemed to be?

So @Coach Nowlin we just going to let him say 6PM and not say it's 5PM for us? #CentralTeamsPlayToo 😀

I respectfully disagree, because I don't like telling teams you are "competitive enough" to play up but can't really make a true deep run to semi state or state because they won two sectionals. Making it 3 points is more than just an arbitrary number. Sectionals are geographically drawn and subject to some weird lines at times. Take Brownstown and Lawrenceburg for example (I think that is closer to your part of the state?). But they matched up in Semi-state in 2016 and first round of the sectional the next. Winning sectional in 2017 was a much different animal than 2016 for both of them. Southridge is currently bumped up to 3A. A few different lines drawn and they probably win Sectional 30 last year and this year. As it is, they didn't get out of sectional 32 which was much tougher. My point is that just based on where the lines are drawn, some sectionals are drastically tougher than others. And once schools reach 5A (like New Pal, Columbus East, and Cathedral) those sectionals are only 4 teamers. I'm not saying you have to win state like New Pal or Evansville Memorial did last year, but 2 straight sectionals is not enough for me to tell the freshmen and sophomores - Your older teammates were "competitive enough" so you have to stay in that class for your junior and senior years.

Southridge 'stays up' with a Regional win (2 points). New Pal and Evansville Memorial already have 4 points with state titles in 2019. They will stay up unless they win regional (2 more points) and get bumped up again.

I believe both of those statements are true. However with New Pal needing to get through Whiteland and Cathedral and Ev Memorial facing Ev Central and Mooresville/East Central, I think the assumption is that neither team will make it that far.

Thanks for the explanation. The actual play I witnessed was 1st and goal from the 8. Defensive facemask foul occurred at the 12, setting up 1st and goal from the 6, i.e. half the distance from the foul not the original LOS. (Correct enforcement in the game.) I just got to wondering the above hypothetical what would happen.

1st and 10, a personal foul (15 yard) facemask on a quarterback sack, where the offense loses 6 yards (meaning without the facemask it would have been 2nd and 16). What is the correct enforcement and down/distance?

You're right. So I guess I failed the essay question? I was thinking for every win, there is a loss resulting in a .500 record across the board. But even the combined opponent's opponents would be slightly different (but very close to .500). Moral of the story - like as mentioned above, an SOS based solely on W-L percentage will be pretty irrelevant come tournament time.

This seems like a essay question on a math test. Lol This year will be different because Castle/Bosse never happened, but wouldn’t each team theoretically have the same SOS at the end of the regular season? Each team will have the same opponents, which should all be 45-45 combined. So the opponents’ opponents combined record should also be .500.

My guess is to prevent the "watch parties" that they blasted out on social media during the draw the last few years.

That. Sucks. We are completely at the whims of health departments right now. We’re still better off than our friends in Illinois but things are getting crazy in SW Indiana.

As far as SW Indiana, I don’t know if it’s fair to expect MD (2A) or Boonville (4A) to represent their entire conference in the playoffs. That’s where the main crossovers occur. The 3A and 5A brackets are so weird right now I’m not sure a whole lot of inferences can be drawn there either. It will make for an interesting postseason discussion though.

@Cappy I take it PC was going to play TC this week? Or were there two games cancelled? It’s going to make for an interesting tournament this year. Although from the sound of things the IHSAA may need to figure out the whole quarantined team thing in the volleyball tournament too.

Wing T Coaches: "You know our OL are properly lined up when the opposing coach is losing his mind about an illegal formation." I hate that mindset. My two biggest pet peeves watching a game. When the offense tries to blur the line of scrimmage with lineman too far back and receivers either not clearly on/off the LOS. The offense can do anything they want post-snap, just make them get set and in a legal formation pre-snap.

I think Week 6 illustrates the point I have always made about the strength of the SIAC 1. A 1-4 sixth place team (MD) physically ran for over 200 yards vs a previously unbeaten first place team. 2. Jasper battled but still lost to a team missing one of its two best players. The depth of good teams and the depth of talent on the rosters make each week interesting. I’m not sure the league has semi-state caliber teams this year, but still has some good teams

My wife and I were having a similar conversation this week. Our youngest son is playing tackle football for the first time this fall. I can see that he and a few of his friends easily frustrate a coach. If your main goal is to win the 3/4th grade league, it would be easy to run them all practice and never play them. Luckily his coach understands his role is to teach basic fundamentals, help them improve, and keep their enjoyment of the game. Obviously the goal of the league is safety and skill development (are you ever going to get perfection from 3/4th graders?) A varsity coach can teach you what they call inside zone and outside zone, but a bad elementary school coach can run a player off before he ever gets the chance.

It depends if you want to define strength as parity or top-tier team that can make a deep run. I see the SIAC winning 4 sectionals, one per class 2A - 5A. I don't see any teams winning regional, similar to 2016.

I think some Geiger counters might register the collisions Friday night when Dawkins (Jasper) and Madison (Central) collide. I will pick Jasper in a slight upset. My other prediction is that the game might be over by 8:15. Neither team will throw much and are happy with 3 yards and cloud of turf.

How does one ‘quit their GID addiction?’ Counseling, psychotherapy, electroshock, switch to a flip phone, what? Asking for a friend....😀 In all seriousness best of luck TrojanDad in your future endeavors. I will your insights and posts.