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Bring back the chopper!
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Not even sure if he was the best player in Marion County that year. Dray Mason at Chatard was just a junior and averaged 170 YPG. Tim Sergi at Roncalli averaged 167 YPG -- also a junior. Both won state championships and didn't have cakewalks for schedules. Mason went to Purdue and was moved to CB, Sergi had a good career at IU as a RB. 2003 IHSAA Rushing Stats
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Weight/strength/nutrition coaches, classes, and instructors (and the ability to fill those roles either internally or through a contractor) are also becoming big factors even at the 3A level. If you have an AD who considers such endeavors important, it can improve all sports, but is particularly important in football/track/soccer where you have the largest number of athletes competing together. Wrestling can be thrown in there too.
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I agree, especially with the analysis of Jasper able to keep it close and even squeak out a win, but they'll have to put up points and play mistake free. I do think Castle gets the win on The Hill. Reitz hasn't provided much to be confident in, although it's still Reitz.
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Rules/Instructions for PA Announcer Talking Pre- and Post-Snap
hhpatriot04 posted a question in Officiating Forum
In this thread (page 3), you'll see and hear several examples of the home team's PA talking right up and through the snap of the ball while the visiting team was on offense, including during a potential go-ahead FG attempt by the visiting team with 30 seconds left. The visiting team ended up winning in overtime. Regardless, it is my understanding that the announcer should stop once the ball is marked ready for play. How would you handle this? I would think about the second time of it occurring would result in a chat with the HC, asking to relay a message to the press box for the announcer to stop. -
It is my understanding by the mid-1990s (maybe earlier), The Law of the Jungle was distributed by the coaching staff to players. So within the program, "The Jungle" was used. Also, ever since I can remember attending HH games (1993/94 -- my sister graduated in 1996), "Welcome to the Jungle" has been played over the loudspeakers when the players take the field. That predates Wilkerson coming to Home Team Friday (1996, I think). If he wants to take credit for coining the term outside of HH circles, then I wouldn't dispute that; however, I would check local newspapers from the early '90s to see if other media used the term. But I wouldn't go so far as to credit him for creating the nickname for "Patriot Field."
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When comparing teams of different eras, it's apples to oranges to make a direct comparison, especially in a team sport like football. Individual sports have shown us that technology and training methods are maximizing an athlete's potential. It's better to compare CG to teams within the past for or so years and say how they stack up... Same for WC 2006 and BD 2001 or 1991. So my question would be is 2020 Center Grove, compared to recent teams, any better than BD or WC was compared to the teams of their era?
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I'm still not clear if a ball that hits a receiving team player past 10 yards is considered "grounded" (because the player is grounded) or "airborne" because the ball has not yet itself touched the ground...
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As a strategy, did it appear that the kicking team would've had time to field the ball if it wasn't airborne? Also, what defines airborne? If a kick hits a receiving field player in the helmet (I've seen it on a line-drive kick that hit the first row of blockers), is the ball still considered to be airborne or must it first strike the ground to have a legal touch by the kicking team. Also, assuming that player is at least 10 yards from the kick, can the kicking team legally touch the ball before it hits the ground, but has not gone 10 yards (picturing a pin ball that bounces off a player's helmet and back toward the kicking team).
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Also worth noting that he's a former football head coach at neighboring Bosse.
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After Week 5 1. Central (5-0) - Can Jasper keep up in a shootout with the Bears? 2. North (5-0) - Any chance of overlooking Mater Dei or Vincennes or is North "that" good? 3. Southridge (5-0) - Big/Small PAC, the Raiders are champs, barring a surprise against TC. 4. Jasper (5-0) - Three straight away games against top SIAC squads. 5. Castle (3-1) - Only given up three TDs in four games. Might need more octane down the stretch. 6. Mount Vernon (4-1) - Big conference implications upcoming with Boonville and GS next 7. Tell City (5-0) - Just keep rolling, but solid enough to stay with the Raider for four quarters? 8. Memorial (2-3) - Bosse up next, then Reitz. Shot to get over .500 9. Reitz (2-3) - Castle at home. Four winnable games to end the season 10. Gibson Southern (2-3) - Humble pie served, but PAC title still in play. HM: Boonville (3-2), Mater Dei (1-4), Linton (3-2), Vincennes Lincoln (1-4) I didn't consult the Sagarin ratings, given that half the teams are playing closed schedules, I'm not sure much would change. Plenty of debate about Central/North and where Tell City fits into this puzzle. Thoughts? What does your list look like?
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Another instance through an entire HH offensive play. Disclaimer: I do not represent the views of the Heritage Hills athletic program or football team. I'm merely making an observation based on 20+ years of attending HS football games and my understanding of the rules and responsibilities of the home team. Regardless, props to North Posey for giving HH all it could handle. Even with HH still figuring out how to put the pieces together, the Vikings showed up ready to play and almost got the win. Good luck with the rest of your season, especially against Mater Dei in the sectional who you always seem to draw.
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It came from the field being surrounded by trees partially in a valley and Coach Clayton (an English teacher) using Kipling's "Law of the Jungle." BTW: Offical name is "Patriot Field." Maybe one day it will be "Clayton Memorial Stadium," but I've heard no specific talks of that...
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In post-game interviews HH Coach Wilkerson several times alluded to multiple players out because of injuries. Glad to get the W against the Vikings, but HH will need all hands on deck obviously against the PAC frontrunner Titans. Also, I have always had the utmost respect for the administration and football team in Poseyville, especially when I played against Coach Gengelbach's teams. And you always knew, especially in football and basketball getting a win at Posey, wasn't a foregone conclusion and his players never quit. I was however VERY disappointed to see highlights of the game with the NP public address announcer using the loud speakers to give play-by-play while HH was lining up on offense and even through the actual plays. This is a big no-no. And he did it again when HH lined up at the end of the game for a go-ahead field goal (shown below, turn up your speakers). That should have been addressed the second time it happened by the officials, who relay a message to the press box, and tell him to stop once ball is marked down and ready for play. Am I right @Bobref?
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Northeast Indiana top 10
hhpatriot04 replied to NE8Fan's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Thanks. My father lived there for a while on a (jumping/show) horse farm, including during the Blizzard of 1979. He said the water in his eyes froze walking to the barn to tend to the horses... Fortunately, a few years later, he returned to Bloomington where he met my mother and then back to their families in Indy, where I was born and most of my family still lives. -
They did correctly predict West Side growth before the North Side. Although, I don't think the West Side will fully develop much beyond USI until I-69 (whatever the state highway used to be called... SR-66 ... finds a way to USI and connects with SR-62. The northern route from I-64 is too out of the way and I realize there isn't much land between where I-69 ends downtown and USI. (This is being said with the assumption that it's still a pain during rush hours to get from the East to West Sides on the Lloyd Expressway. They were working on improvements near US-41 when I last drove it regularly... Yes you can use I-64 to 41 to the bypass to USI, but it's not really optimal.) That being said the idea of another Catholic private school on the North Side would be interesting not only because of Vanderburgh County growth in the area, but how easy it would be for nearby counties to send students to an "Evansville Catholic North." I guess the deanery has the final say?
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That's where I played my last HS game against Chatard, semistate 2003 (Dray Mason, Baker, Halliburton, Dury and company) -- holding them to three TDs was an accomplishment ... First experience was there as a sophomore in 2001. Not sure if the facility has changed, but I assume the community hasn't much. Does the IHSAA allow tournament games there, as it's previously moved semistates away from Broad Ripple. Congrats on the win and season so far. I know they are taking it one week at a time, but let's see two undefeated teams going into Week 9 vs. Center Grove!
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I still don't know what to think of Castle. When did the Reitz scores occur? Jasper-Castle definitely seem to be very close. It doesn't help that Jasper has to play at Central, Castle, and North, followed by a home game against long-standing rival Vincennes. How are the SIAC games scheduled and how often will the schedule change? Obviously, it's tough to know what games will be big 2-4 years out, but you generally have an idea. Memorial had a gauntlet to open the year and Jasper to close the year, as we've said. But is this schedule layout indefinite or subject to change every four years or so?
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Always enjoyed the match-ups with the Alices during the series they had going a decade ago. It was a loss to SW Indiana football to see the program backslide, but now things seem to be headed in the right direction. Much like Mater Dei in 2A, Vincennes Lincoln could greatly benefit in the 3A tournament by playing in the SIAC if they can maintain depth and avoid injuries. I think the future is bright.
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Northeast Indiana top 10
hhpatriot04 replied to NE8Fan's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
We have a similar poll for SW Indiana. It's always difficult comparing successful small schools with large schools. Occasionally, you'll get cases where a 2A/3A team like Mater Dei who plays a closed SIAC schedule against all 4A & 5A teams get beaten in the playoffs by a good Southridge team (floats between 2A/3A). The closed conferences (or lack of diverse non-conference opponents) have compounded ranking teams unfortunately. Does Muncie fall into the category of NE Indiana? If so, why do schools in that area rarely progress in the tournament?
