Guest Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BTF said: Very kind of you to put Snider in your Top 15. Thank you. So Fishers, Westfield, and Zionsville are capable of beating Noblesville by a wide margin, but not Snider, Carroll, or Homestead? Sorry, but...........................regional bias. Yes, Snider is a fringe top 10 team that is comfortably in the top 15...as a 5A school playing at the 6A level...pretty high praise in my opinion. Capable? Sure. But it won’t happen. Noblesville played CATHEDRAL and CARMEL in the non conference and then will have played the HCC gauntlet by the time the tourney rolls around. Snider, Carroll, and Homestead will also have been tested, no doubt but not nearly as much as Noblesville has been. Gimme 35. Edited September 22, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, BTF said: Very kind of you to put Snider in your Top 15. Thank you. So Fishers, Westfield, and Zionsville are capable of beating Noblesville by a wide margin, but not Snider, Carroll, or Homestead? Sorry, but...........................regional bias. Noblesville has already played all 3. Lost by 21, 20 & 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Temptation said: Yes, Snider is a fringe top 10 team that is comfortably in the top 15...as a 5A school playing at the 6A level...pretty high praise in my opinion. Capable? Sure. But it won’t happen. Noblesville played CATHEDRAL and CARMEL in the non conference and then will have played the HCC gauntlet by the time the tourney rolls around. Snider, Carroll, and Homestead will also have been tested, no doubt but not nearly as much as Noblesville has been. Gimme 35. Average margin of defeat so far is 25, why are you asking for 35? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Staxawax said: Noblesville has already played all 3. Lost by 21, 20 & 20. I understand that. Temptation is implying that Homestead, Snider, nor Carroll are capable of beating Noblesville by a comparable margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BTF said: Average margin of defeat so far is 25, why are you asking for 35? YOU stated that Noblesville would be “6-8” in the SAC so I’m just looking at Homestead’s (1st in the SAC) margin of victory over the current 6-8 teams: Concordia (29), Luers (51) and soon to be North Side (pick your score). 35 is generous, no? Edited September 22, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Bobref said: Tell that to the Kiser kid who is playing at ND now. Outstanding athlete, absolute travesty he was playing 1a football Hope he does great things at ND Wouldnt have been mr. football if he played for Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Temptation said: YOU stated that Noblesville would be “6-8” in the SAC so I’m just looking at Homestead’s (1st in the SAC) margin of victory over the current 6-8 teams: Concordia (29), Luers (51) and soon to be North Side (pick your score). 35 is generous, no? If they were 7th in the SAC, you can throw out the Luers score. I do believe the Miller's would beat Knights. Whether or not they could be Northrop or Concordia is the big question to me. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say they could possibly finish 5th. I'll give you 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justasportsfan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Noblesvilles' a 6a program for a reason. The Miller's would be a formidable foe in the SAC..i wouldn't bet 35..yet I never take that when northern 6a squad gets kicked by whomever at Los either. The competitive landscape always changes during tourney time..hence the teams the make deep runs with terrible records.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, BTF said: If they were 7th in the SAC, you can throw out the Luers score. I do believe the Miller's would beat Knights. Whether or not they could be Northrop or Concordia is the big question to me. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say they could possibly finish 5th. I'll give you 28. Done deal. I’ll PM you my PayPal account info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Rodney said: Wouldnt have been mr. football if he played for Warren Rodney = often wrong, but never in doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Rodney said: Outstanding athlete, absolute travesty he was playing 1a football Hope he does great things at ND Wouldnt have been mr. football if he played for Warren While probably true as he concentrates on being an elite/game changing linebacker, this topic was exhausted months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWfootball10 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The same thing happened last year. It is dumb that the SAC teams are ranked this low but kind of understandable. There is no way 80% of the teams listed above Homestead, Snider, and Dwenger could beat them or even compete with them. However, the Sagarin ratings don't know how to calculate teams that play a closed schedule like this. Last year Sagarin gave Dwenger like a 1% to win 4a while it should have been around at least 40%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWfootball10 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 As far as the Noblesville/SAC debate. I would think they would be right behind Carroll at 4th. Northrop is 5th and I think Noblesville would blow them out. On the other hand I believe Carroll could blow Noblesville out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridayNightLights Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 11:58 AM, DT said: SAC is a beast this year. Suburb schools Carroll and Homestead really stepping up their game SAC-MIC-HCC Gap is closing fast Give me the top 3 in the HCC vs the top 3 in the SAC. HCC comes out 3-0. Same with MIC vs SAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 19 hours ago, Temptation said: Done deal. I’ll PM you my PayPal account info. I would prefer a donation to GID You know, considering this "bet" would not been made available without the friends of GID yearly gracious donations. But hey you all do you I just think its petty to make "bets" of financial gains. Last year 2 folks had same convo and give it up to RebelDad who lost this bet and paid $50 to the GID cause, the guy he bet with also matched it as well. 20 hours ago, BTF said: If they were 7th in the SAC, you can throw out the Luers score. I do believe the Miller's would beat Knights. Whether or not they could be Northrop or Concordia is the big question to me. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say they could possibly finish 5th. I'll give you 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Nowlin said: I would prefer a donation to GID You know, considering this "bet" would not been made available without the friends of GID yearly gracious donations. But hey you all do you I just think its petty to make "bets" of financial gains. Last year 2 folks had same convo and give it up to RebelDad who lost this bet and paid $50 to the GID cause, the guy he bet with also matched it as well. I'm on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Temptation said: I'm on board. Saying that I would give you 28 was just for the sake of conversation. I'm not going to continue a discussion about gambling here (even if it is to benefit the GID). A high school football forum certainly isn't the place to do this. I apologize to anyone who may have been offended by this. I'm not against discussing a fun friendly way of making a donation to the GID if you'd like to do it via private chat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, FWfootball10 said: As far as the Noblesville/SAC debate. I would think they would be right behind Carroll at 4th. Northrop is 5th and I think Noblesville would blow them out. On the other hand I believe Carroll could blow Noblesville out. Agree that Carroll could blow Noblesville out (if 3 td's is considered a blowout). Disagree that Noblesville would blow Northrop or Concordia out. I'm not sure they'd even beat those two teams, let alone "blow them out." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, FridayNightLights said: Give me the top 3 in the HCC vs the top 3 in the SAC. HCC comes out 3-0. Same with MIC vs SAC. Let's go Top 4. Who would you match up against Homestead, Dwenger, Snider, and Carroll?...............in that order. I'm going to offend a lot of people from Central Indiana by saying this, but I'm not sure Avon could stop Homestead's offense. I could be wrong. Lot's of answers when the Sectional 3 winner takes on Carmel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridayNightLights Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, BTF said: Let's go Top 4. Who would you match up against Homestead, Dwenger, Snider, and Carroll?...............in that order. I'm going to offend a lot of people from Central Indiana by saying this, but I'm not sure Avon could stop Homestead's offense. I could be wrong. Lot's of answers when the Sectional 3 winner takes on Carmel. Avon/Brownsburg interchangeable at 1 and 2 (I think Brownsburg gets them in sectionals after a 7-3 loss and is my favorite to come out of the South). Fishers at 3. 4 could be a toss up between HSE Westfield FC and Zionsville. Whoever wants to show up that week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridayNightLights Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Brownsburg offense is high powered with a lot of weapons (all lineman are Jrs. Jr D1 Qb Jr D1 Wr and a D1 Sr, RB) and Avon held them to 3 points Edited September 23, 2019 by FridayNightLights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BTF said: Let's go Top 4. Who would you match up against Homestead, Dwenger, Snider, and Carroll?...............in that order. I'm going to offend a lot of people from Central Indiana by saying this, but I'm not sure Avon could stop Homestead's offense. I could be wrong. Lot's of answers when the Sectional 3 winner takes on Carmel. Avon shut down Brownsburg's offense which is loaded with D1 talent... (Edit: Just saw the post above.) To insinuate that Homestead would score at ease on Avon is laughable. Edited September 23, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Temptation said: Avon shut down Brownsburg's offense which is loaded with D1 talent... We'll just have to wait and see how things go down in the tournament. I could be wrong about the SAC, or maybe I'm not. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Temptation said: Avon shut down Brownsburg's offense which is loaded with D1 talent... (Edit: Just saw the post above.) To insinuate that Homestead would score at ease on Avon is laughable. I watched that game. The play calling wasn’t very favorable for Brownsburg’s passing attack. Nothing imaginative. Practically limited to throwing deep balls to the WR heading to Purdue in 2 years. I would take Homestead’s passing O to cause Avon fits IF, big IF, Homestead could handle Avon’s D-Line. That 6’3 TE for Homestead opens up the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Time will tell Edited September 23, 2019 by BTF none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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