Muda69 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 44 minutes ago, Bobref said: Tell me you’ve never spent time in a locker room without telling me you’ve never spent time in a locker room. I have spent time in a locker room, but not an NFL locker room. Please Bobref, regale us with your tales of witnessing unabashed swearing and debauchery in an NFL locker room. Or a Notre Dame locker room. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Versus an organization that has absolutely owned you for the last 30 years So, yea, I am 1000000% ok with the leader of my beloved be authentic and if you do not think his choice to conduct the business the way he has has not led to winning 7 games in under 2 mins to go and the list goes on, the realm of changing EVERYTHING in Halas Hall then do not know what to tell you Ben Johnson is not going to allow the Packers to do as they please like the previous regimes...... the horror Hey…if that’s what it takes to motivate himself and his team, so be it. I’m just saying there are plenty of NFL coaching legends involved in fierce rivalries, that could look the opposing coach in his eyes and shake his hand, win or lose. I would better understand his post game antics if he had a history with LaFleur, but doesn’t seem the case. It is possible to want to beat the pants off your opponent and still be a gracious winner or loser. He knows his team…if he feels he needs to go into an expletive tirade to celebrate a big win and use hate of his opposition to celebrate/motivate, so be it I guess. But as Muda stated, we live in a world where this goes viral quickly. 2 hours ago, Bobref said: Tell me you’ve never spent time in a locker room without telling me you’ve never spent time in a locker room. That’s rich….🙄 Quote
Bobref Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: I have spent time in a locker room, but not an NFL locker room. Please Bobref, regale us with your tales of witnessing unabashed swearing and debauchery in an NFL locker room. Or a Notre Dame locker room. Mountain out of a molehill. Not even worth the time that’s already been spent discussing it. I’m out. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 13 Posted January 13 19 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Hey…if that’s what it takes to motivate himself and his team, so be it. I’m just saying there are plenty of NFL coaching legends involved in fierce rivalries, that could look the opposing coach in his eyes and shake his hand, win or lose. I would better understand his post game antics if he had a history with LaFleur, but doesn’t seem the case. It is possible to want to beat the pants off your opponent and still be a gracious winner or loser. He knows his team…if he feels he needs to go into an expletive tirade to celebrate a big win and use hate of his opposition to celebrate/motivate, so be it I guess. But as Muda stated, we live in a world where this goes viral quickly. "TIRADE" "a long angry speech of criticism or accusation Cmon...... Coach Johnson has shown to be a gracious winner and loser....... Just admit that Packers fans and Colts fans wish he was wearing their colors I am with @Bobref you all just won't understand, especially Packer fans. That's ok I will collect the tears of sadness !!! Quote
Muda69 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, Bobref said: Mountain out of a molehill. Not even worth the time that’s already been spent discussing it. I’m out. Thanks for trying. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: "TIRADE" "a long angry speech of criticism or accusation Cmon...... Coach Johnson has shown to be a gracious winner and loser....... Just admit that Packers fans and Colts fans wish he was wearing their colors I am with @Bobref you all just won't understand, especially Packer fans. That's ok I will collect the tears of sadness !!! Sorry...bad choice of words. Rant perhaps? I'm actually less about the locker room and more about the behavior leaving the field. So its asking too much to look another man in the eyes, shake his hand, congratulate him and his team on the season? Its asking to much to win and lose with grace? As I stated, I would understand more if LeFleur had caused issues with Johnson in the past, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I am no psychologist, but to have disdain for someone, simply because they are a competitor, to the point you can't demonstrate an ounce of respect after competition....well that's head scratching to me. We don't see this often especially in the professional ranks, and I think we expect more out of men...men that are role models. Heck, players that have beat on each other during the game, acknowledge each other, shake hands, trade jerseys, pray together, etc. I get your a big fan of Coach Johnson, but doesn't mean you shouldn't expect better from a coach leaving the field. I've said enough...guess we shall agree to disagree. 1 Quote
Irishman Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 7 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: the horror There was more to the story behind him saying that. Not a fan of it necessarily, but the anger was justified. Quote
Irishman Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Checkmate This actually goes more to my point. Wanting to kick a team's ass and telling a coach is one thing; meant, it and there is still a level of mutual respect there. Even if cameras were present for that, I don't see anything wrong with it; likely as much good natured as anything. Now, if the two ended up in a shouting match back and forth, then it's a different story. But saying Fuck the Packers, I hate those fuckers is a whole different level. Had he even said something like, great fucking win, that is how you fucking compete, I have ZERO issues with that. Private locker room time? Nope. That is as fierce a thing that Halas can say knowing there were no cameras....and Johnson knowing full well there were cameras. My beef is not about the cussing itself, it was the full line he used. He manufactured the angst between himself and LaFleur, and he keeps it going with this. At the end of the day, you won a wild card game, not a Super Bowl or even the NFC Championship. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Again..... You don't understand the depth of this, it goes deeper than just a words Its changing the culture and mindset and if he said a naughty word and makes his team believe the way he believes and that will continue to grow, why is this so hard for the IVORY TOWER ( you like that @Muda69 ) the Packers and the NFC North has had for damn near 3 decades Tides are turning Our Coach is not going to back down END OF STORY Status QUO was NOT WORKING And I vehemently disagree when you guys want to invoke that great George Halas would NEVER stoop to classless levels as Ben Johnson, I just simply pointed out that Coach Halas did something that would be the same disrespect but he did 5 mins before the game and knocked on the locker room door. But hey ........ he didn't say F.... he said A...... SMH So knocking on the opposing door of the opposing coach to tell him his team is going to get their ass kicked by his team is fine because he was respect tone?? Which how would ANY of us know how that conversation was taken? Also, how do any of you know what actual issue he has with Coach Lafluer? perhaps the years in Detroit has something to do with it? This is so comical I cannot stay away. Ive tried. so much I've tried. too funny not too 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 14 Posted January 14 12 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Again..... You don't understand the depth of this, it goes deeper than just a words Its changing the culture and mindset and if he said a naughty word and makes his team believe the way he believes and that will continue to grow, why is this so hard for the IVORY TOWER ( you like that @Muda69 ) the Packers and the NFC North has had for damn near 3 decades Tides are turning Our Coach is not going to back down END OF STORY Status QUO was NOT WORKING And I vehemently disagree when you guys want to invoke that great George Halas would NEVER stoop to classless levels as Ben Johnson, I just simply pointed out that Coach Halas did something that would be the same disrespect but he did 5 mins before the game and knocked on the locker room door. But hey ........ he didn't say F.... he said A...... SMH So knocking on the opposing door of the opposing coach to tell him his team is going to get their ass kicked by his team is fine because he was respect tone?? Which how would ANY of us know how that conversation was taken? Also, how do any of you know what actual issue he has with Coach Lafluer? perhaps the years in Detroit has something to do with it? This is so comical I cannot stay away. Ive tried. so much I've tried. too funny not too Do you know or are you speculating? I have researched this and found nothing to date as to why such animosity and disrespect. But if you have something factual to add, please do. Be a man, shake your opponents hand after a hard fought game to show respect and sportsmanship....act like the vast majority of your players. Is this really too much to ask a "professional head coach"? If you say it is, well I find your views justifying this behavior "comical". Quote
Muda69 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Mr. Halas dressed like a professional, with class: Like almost all NFL coaches today Mr. Johnson's dress on the sidelines is just one step above Belichick-schlub: Dress classy, be classy. Quote
Sparty Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Muda69 said: Mr. Halas dressed like a professional, with class: Like almost all NFL coaches today Mr. Johnson's dress on the sidelines is just one step above Belichick-schlub: Dress classy, be classy. What’s your thought on when coaches were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines? Crazy to think about it in today’s day and age. Quote
gonzoron Posted January 14 Posted January 14 28 minutes ago, Sparty said: What’s your thought on when coaches were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines? Crazy to think about it in today’s day and age. 2 2 Quote
Muda69 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Sparty said: What’s your thought on when coaches were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines? Crazy to think about it in today’s day and age. I don't have a problem with that. I wouldn't today either. They were adults. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 15 Posted January 15 19 hours ago, Muda69 said: I don't have a problem with that. I wouldn't today either. They were adults. Adults do not have a choice in their clothing? Quote
Muda69 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 18 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Adults do not have a choice in their clothing? Of course they do. Head coaches like Belichick and Johnson choose to dress like non-professional, non-leadership-inducing schlubs. If they chose to smoke tobacco products on the sideline really all that they hurting are themselves. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Of course they do. Head coaches like Belichick and Johnson choose to dress like non-professional, non-leadership-inducing schlubs. If they chose to smoke tobacco products on the sideline really all that they hurting are themselves. You forgot the other 31 current NFL teams and their HC, consistency matters Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 1/14/2026 at 8:17 AM, Muda69 said: Mr. Halas dressed like a professional, with class: Dress classy, be classy. Heck yes....its always about the belt buckle for me!! Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 18 Posted January 18 It seems the Packers are like the Colts in that they hold onto the status quo and expect different results. Good luck to both in this upcoming season.😏 1 Quote
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