Notre Dame 2025

[temptation]

2 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

You seem very upset. Sucks that two very high profile sports figures validated what we Irish fans have been saying. I know. 

I think Barkley is smart enough to know that a game played back in August shouldn't have carried as much weight as what it did. I'd also argue that his experience in sports probably gives him more weight than any poster on this forum.

Again, I have no issues with Miami, they showed in the last few weeks that they are playing at a high level. The sham here is Alabama and there's a high probability that this undeserving team may have cost Notre Dame their 12th national title. 

Reeled me in again Temp. Damn, was gonna take this Sunday off. 

Vitale IS an Irish fan, lol.  The entire point of your post was to claim that “these two guys feel the same was as ND fans” lol.

Not mad at all.  Now, if you wanna see MAD, just click on the “Notre Dame 2025” thread and rehash you lighting yourself on fire all day last Sunday.

Notre Dame fans, who have benefitted from every damn rule in the sport for over a century suddenly claiming to be victims.  

Who could have seen it coming?

Their tradition used to be filling their trophy case, now they’ve been regulated to screaming into an echo chamber about their exclusion from the playoff.

Sad times.

19 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

It’s not bait man!! Again, 2nd fav college team. But ND took funds over joining a conference. That decision bit them this year. People can play victim all they want…but ND did have control and made some choices, and they took the $$. My guess is there will be changes in the future. How soon?  Anyone’s guess. 

“2nd fav college team.”

LOL.

Edited December 14, 2025 by temptation

[23andCounting]

24 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

It’s not bait man!! Again, 2nd fav college team. But ND took funds over joining a conference. That decision bit them this year. People can play victim all they want…but ND did have control and made some choices, and they took the $$. My guess is there will be changes in the future. How soon?  Anyone’s guess. 

I get that they are your second favorite team, but you're clearly not aligned with what is in the best interest at Notre Dame. There won't be any changes anytime soon. The university still feels that being independent is in there best interest even though you do not. 

[23andCounting]

10 minutes ago, temptation said:

Vitale IS an Irish fan, lol.  The entire point of your post was to claim that “these two guys feel the same was as ND fans” lol.

Not mad at all.  Now, if you wanna see MAD, just click on the “Notre Dame 2025” thread and rehash you lighting yourself on fire all day last Sunday.

Notre Dame fans, who have benefitted from every damn rule in the sport for over a century suddenly claiming to be victims.  

Who could have seen it coming?

Their tradition used to be filling their trophy case, now they’ve been regulated to screaming into an echo chamber about their exclusion from the playoff.

Sad times.

“2nd fav college team.”

LOL.

You wear me out, but you do make me laugh (lighting yourself on fire), so thanks for that. 

Just thought it was interesting that prominent sports figures like Vitale and Barkley agree with Nick Saban and film specialist Brooks Austin. That's all. Not trying to purposely make you angry, it's Sunday after all. 

The fans aren't the victims here, it's the players. Our biggest gripe isn't being left out of the Top 12. Our gripe is being led on for WEEKS that we were the 9th best team in the country only to have the CFPS change their mind at the last minute after the the Irish crushed everyone in their path. Put yourself in the player's position. Forget the fans. Good Lord. 

Not everyone loves one team and hates everyone else Temp. It's okay to root for others, it really is. Michigan is my 8th favorite team. Gonna crucify me for that?

[temptation]

16 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

You wear me out, but you do make me laugh (lighting yourself on fire), so thanks for that. 

Just thought it was interesting that prominent sports figures like Vitale and Barkley agree with Nick Saban and film specialist Brooks Austin. That's all. Not trying to purposely make you angry, it's Sunday after all. 

The fans aren't the victims here, it's the players. Our biggest gripe isn't being left out of the Top 12. Our gripe is being led on for WEEKS that we were the 9th best team in the country only to have the CFPS change their mind at the last minute after the the Irish crushed everyone in their path. Put yourself in the player's position. Forget the fans. Good Lord. 

Not everyone loves one team and hates everyone else Temp. It's okay to root for others, it really is. Michigan is my 8th favorite team. Gonna crucify me for that?

Believe it or not, I actually agree that Miami jumping ND last week despite not having played was shady.

If you have an 8th favorite team, you aren’t doing it correctly.  Now, wanting to see a team do well, sure?

You also have a second favorite wife?

[Komets2727]

Let’s be honest, Michigan is a closet SEC team and maybe they leave the Big 10 and join the cheater league, though no titles for that league since NIL formed. 

[Komets2727]

8 minutes ago, temptation said:

Believe it or not, I actually agree that Miami jumping ND last week despite not having played was shady.

If you have an 8th favorite team, you aren’t doing it correctly.  Now, wanting to see a team do well, sure?

You also have a second favorite wife?

He left that for Sherrone Moore… though it seems that he may have had more than 2 wives…

[23andCounting]

16 minutes ago, temptation said:

You also have a second favorite wife?

I have three if you must know. One is upstairs making the bed, one is in the kitchen making lunch, and one is giving me a foot massage. But I do love them all the same, so that's an unfair question. 

[Rodney]

8 teams deep in the fandom is pretty crazy

I like ND, IU and whoever OSU is playing

[23andCounting]

12 minutes ago, Rodney said:

8 teams deep in the fandom is pretty crazy

I like ND, IU and whoever OSU is playing

Michigan being ranked 8th just mean I root for them when they play Alabama who is ranked 63rd. 

Imagine a Notre Dame grad with a son who goes to Purdue  on football scholarship and a daughter who goes to IU on academic scholarship. That guy probably has a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. I wonder what kind of wisdom @temptation would give that guy. 

[temptation]

27 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Michigan being ranked 8th just mean I root for them when they play Alabama who is ranked 63rd. 

Imagine a Notre Dame grad with a son who goes to Purdue  on football scholarship and a daughter who goes to IU on academic scholarship. That guy probably has a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. I wonder what kind of wisdom @temptation would give that guy. 

How many of us on this board are graduates of the football program that we root for?

Edited December 14, 2025 by temptation

[23andCounting]

4 minutes ago, temptation said:

How many of us on this board are graduates of the football program that we root for?

I would say that's all the more reason to cheer for whoever you want.

Not going to go into all of the reasons why I'm a supporter of Notre Dame. But IU is easy to root for because the garnish the state brand, where I happen to live. Purdue is easy to root for because my hometown of Fort Wayne is a recruiting hotbed for them in all sports. I really don't see what the big deal is. 

[temptation]

5 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

I would say that's all the more reason to cheer for whoever you want.

Not going to go into all of the reasons why I'm a supporter of Notre Dame. But IU is easy to root for because the garnish the state brand, where I happen to live. Purdue is easy to root for because my hometown of Fort Wayne is a recruiting hotbed for them in all sports. I really don't see what the big deal is. 

Oh, I don’t either but some do.

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Believe it or not, I actually agree that Miami jumping ND last week despite not having played was shady.

If you have an 8th favorite team, you aren’t doing it correctly.  Now, wanting to see a team do well, sure?

You also have a second favorite wife?

The committee made a mess of things this time around. I’d rather take the top 12 by a computer poll, but it makes no sense to have a committee if they can’t or won’t resolve the exact type of weirdness that can result from computer polls—like ND being way ahead of Miami in the first rankings despite a head to head loss and having the same record. At the very least, they should have moved Miami ahead of ND after the final week of the season just like they moved Alabama. It’s kind of like refs swallowing their whistles on PI all game only to flag a guy for a textbook case on a decisive play right at the end.

[Irishman]

2 hours ago, temptation said:

Believe it or not, I actually agree that Miami jumping ND last week despite not having played was shady.

If you have an 8th favorite team, you aren’t doing it correctly.  Now, wanting to see a team do well, sure?

You also have a second favorite wife?

Someone COULD have 8 kids at 8 different schools….just sayin 

or 6 and he and his wife went to two others. 
Or 4 kids at 4 schools while he had two siblings and a wife at others. 
The possibilities are endless 🤣

[PDB26]

18 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

If the ND admin believe that and are willing to share revenues, they should be motivated to join a conference 

Well, they accepted an arrangement where they voluntarily took in—at most— half as much as what schools like Northwestern were getting for at least a decade and probably longer, so I’m not sure it’s the money that is the motivating factor. I know a lot was made about the playoff money last year, but the Big Ten brought in 40 million by my count and I don’t know how they calculated those distributions either. I think it’s mostly about having flexibility at a time where more realignment is just on the other side of this tunnel. SC joining the Big Ten minimizes that value some in that ND would be a logical addition and not risk losing that rivalry. They could still play an east coast game or three in the non-conference and the conference schedule is national anyway, now. I think they like knowing that they’re on at noon at the earliest on the West coast when they play at home, but that’s about it with the tv deal. You, me, and everyone else can like it or dislike it, but they value the flexibility most. Time is running out on college football as we knew it, and once ND is in a league we’re that much closer to the super league arrangement and a division with the G5 anyway.

[Bash Riprock]

46 minutes ago, PDB26 said:

Well, they accepted an arrangement where they voluntarily took in—at most— half as much as what schools like Northwestern were getting for at least a decade and probably longer, so I’m not sure it’s the money that is the motivating factor. I know a lot was made about the playoff money last year, but the Big Ten brought in 40 million by my count and I don’t know how they calculated those distributions either. I think it’s mostly about having flexibility at a time where more realignment is just on the other side of this tunnel. SC joining the Big Ten minimizes that value some in that ND would be a logical addition and not risk losing that rivalry. They could still play an east coast game or three in the non-conference and the conference schedule is national anyway, now. I think they like knowing that they’re on at noon at the earliest on the West coast when they play at home, but that’s about it with the tv deal. You, me, and everyone else can like it or dislike it, but they value the flexibility most. Time is running out on college football as we knew it, and once ND is in a league we’re that much closer to the super league arrangement and a division with the G5 anyway.

I hear you about the flexibility desire, but they have accept the risk that comes with it. It’s about the $$ too… always. 

[Rodney]

I would like to amend my previous statement to include whoever Purdue is playing as well.

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said:

I hear you about the flexibility desire, but they have accept the risk that comes with it. It’s about the $$ too… always. 

I think the program and athletic department accept the risk, as they accepted the financial penalty I’ve been describing. I think the team was upset with how the process played out because the committee booted it from the start by putting and keeping Notre Dame and Miami in the wrong order until a week in which neither team played. The players made the wrong decision to skip the bowl game, and the staff made the wrong decision to support them or to go along with it. 

[Bash Riprock]

5 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

I get that they are your second favorite team, but you're clearly not aligned with what is in the best interest at Notre Dame. There won't be any changes anytime soon. The university still feels that being independent is in there best interest even though you do not. 

That’s fine. Their decision is the only one that matters. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t risk. Now this “guarantee” they have put in place reduces the risk for sure. 

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

I would like to amend my previous statement to include whoever Purdue is playing as well.

Will need a signature for that.

[PHJIrish]

8 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

I get that they are your second favorite team, but you're clearly not aligned with what is in the best interest at Notre Dame. There won't be any changes anytime soon. The university still feels that being independent is in there best interest even though you do not. 

Like!

[Bobref]

8 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Let’s be honest, Michigan is a closet SEC team and maybe they leave the Big 10 and join the cheater league, though no titles for that league since NIL formed. 

So, you hate Michigan, too? Do you root for anyone? Or are you just a perpetual “anti?”

[Sparty]

@Bobrefcould you help us as to the why Notre Dame was shunned from conferences way back when?

[Komets2727]

1 hour ago, Bobref said:

So, you hate Michigan, too? Do you root for anyone? Or are you just a perpetual “anti?”

Big Indiana fan and have been for a very long time

[Rodney]

I like Michigan

 

something about a team willing to cheat so openly

other teams are boring