Notre Dame 2025

[Rodney]

SOS means nothing when Tulane is in the playoffs

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

I always felt that 16 teams would water it down. But after seeing a legitimate title contender eliminated, I agree that we're on our way to 16. This hatred for Notre Dame will blow over and the best Power 4 programs will be beating down the doors to look good (win or lose) against the Irish in front of a national audience. 

16 is going to happen. It would be best to take the top 12, but 12 is the number.

[23andCounting]

22 minutes ago, Irishman said:

I won't bite on the schedule thing. I am merely referring to whether ND is relevant or not.  

They've been baiting us with that one for years. Oh well. Think I'll head to Rack n Helens for a sausage roll. 

[Bobref]

I guess “relevancy” is in the eye of the beholder. If you say Notre Dame is irrelevant in the college football world over and over, maybe it will come true. But certainly not in our lifetime.

• The program has been valued at $1.85 billion, 4th among FBS schools
• in the last 11 seasons, the Irish rank 5th in games won, trailing only Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson & Georgia
• Depending on the methodology, ND ranks as high as #2 or as low as #4 in football specific revenue annually.
• Notre Dame has been in the top 3 nationally in Graduation Success Rate for more than two decades, most recently tying for first with Northwestern, graduating 99% of its players.

You can count on the fingers of one hand the football programs more relevant - by any reasonable metric - than Notre Dame, and have a finger or two left over.

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said:

The path of least resistance did work in 2024. They played one ranked team during the regular last year #22 Army. But they only lost 1 game last year…this year they lost 2 with very little margin. Had they lost 2 games in 2024 with that very weak schedule, they most likely don’t make it either. 
 

They are a single team with an unshared NBC contract. That is a huge advantage. (Dollars, exposure, recruiting) 

The biggest downside of Notre Dame’s independence for about the last 15 years had been that the value of the NBC deal was dwarfed by the Big Ten media payouts. Now the value is comparable, and the only real financial upside is if ND can make a run in the playoff. ND is on tv regardless, CBS and ESPN want the eyeballs when they’re on the road, and I’m not even sure there’s an appreciable recruiting advantage considering the amount of times big programs are on tv.

Edited December 13, 2025 by PDB26

[GOLDRUSH1985]

1 hour ago, PDB26 said:

The biggest downside of Notre Dame’s independence for about the last 15 years had been that the value of the NBC deal was dwarfed by the Big Ten media payouts. Now the value is comparable, and the only real financial upside is if ND can make a run in the playoff. ND is on tv regardless, CBS and ESPN want the eyeballs when they’re on the road, and I’m not even sure there’s an appreciable recruiting advantage considering the amount of times big programs are on tv.

In the 90's when ND was thinking about joining the Big 10 , their cut of the TV revenue would of been about 2.7 million per year . They were getting 7 million per year from their NBC contract . They said no to the Big 10 . 

[Bash Riprock]

1 hour ago, PDB26 said:

The biggest downside of Notre Dame’s independence for about the last 15 years had been that the value of the NBC deal was dwarfed by the Big Ten media payouts. Now the value is comparable, and the only real financial upside is if ND can make a run in the playoff. ND is on tv regardless, CBS and ESPN want the eyeballs when they’re on the road, and I’m not even sure there’s an appreciable recruiting advantage considering the amount of times big programs are on tv.

If the ND admin believe that and are willing to share revenues, they should be motivated to join a conference 

[GOLDRUSH1985]

1 hour ago, PDB26 said:

The biggest downside of Notre Dame’s independence for about the last 15 years had been that the value of the NBC deal was dwarfed by the Big Ten media payouts. Now the value is comparable, and the only real financial upside is if ND can make a run in the playoff. ND is on tv regardless, CBS and ESPN want the eyeballs when they’re on the road, and I’m not even sure there’s an appreciable recruiting advantage considering the amount of times big programs are on tv.

Correct , Notre Dames media deal with NBC/ACC almost mirrors what Big 10 schools get . Notre Dame can schedule who they want and keep ALL of their bowl money . So why do they need a conference ? 

[Komets2727]

4 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

Lol, my feeling are hurt. 

Doesn't matter. The new deal puts Notre Dame in the field if they are ranked in the Top 12. Conference not necessary. Quit wasting your energy, they'll never join a conference. They're Notre Dame. 

Notre Dame will be joining a conference within 3 years. Mark it down

[GOLDRUSH1985]

50 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Notre Dame will be joining a conference within 3 years. Mark it down

NBC deal is good until 2029 . 

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, Komets2727 said:

Notre Dame will be joining a conference within 3 years. Mark it down

I'll take whatever bet you deliver. 

[23andCounting]

Had a hard time making out what Dick Vitale was saying, but I think he suggested disappointment in the committee with how they led Notre Dame on for weeks before pulling the rug out from them. A pretty cruel joke if you ask me. Charles Barkley dubbed Notre Dame as potentially the third best team in the country behind Indiana and Ohio State. Said the head to head back in August against Miami shouldn't have even been a factor. Just goes to show that Irish fans aren't alone in their thinking. 

[temptation]

17 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Had a hard time making out what Dick Vitale was saying, but I think he suggested disappointment in the committee with how they led Notre Dame on for weeks before pulling the rug out from them. A pretty cruel joke if you ask me. Charles Barkley dubbed Notre Dame as potentially the third best team in the country behind Indiana and Ohio State. Said the head to head back in August against Miami shouldn't have even been a factor. Just goes to show that Irish fans aren't alone in their thinking. 

Vitale is the biggest ND homer out there, lol.  His daughters went there.

And lol at Barkley knowing anything about football…

Do you think before you post?

[Bobref]

42 minutes ago, temptation said:

Vitale is the biggest ND homer out there

He is, indeed. Unashamedly so. Does that mean he’s wrong?

[temptation]

50 minutes ago, Bobref said:

He is, indeed. Unashamedly so. Does that mean he’s wrong?

No but @23andCounting attempted to paint he and Barkley as a couple of casuals with no skin in the game, lol.

[PHJIrish]

It was good to see Jeremiyah Love get the Doak Walker for best RB, and the Disney award for citizenship.  He's quite an impressive young man!

[gonzoron]

2 hours ago, Bobref said:

He is, indeed. Unashamedly so. Does that mean he’s wrong?

They shut him and Barkley down quickly, but millions saw it. After all, it was on ESPN. I thought it was f’ing great!

[Footballking16]

8 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

WAIT what ? Is @Footballking16 a Hoosiers fan ? This explains the hate for my Irish . He's still butthurt that Notre Dame Mud Stomped his Hoosiers last year . I'm a Hoosiers fan too , only when they are not playing ND . 

13-0 #1 in the country. ND’s season is over, IU’s is just starting…

[23andCounting]

11 hours ago, temptation said:

Vitale is the biggest ND homer out there, lol.  His daughters went there.

And lol at Barkley knowing anything about football…

Do you think before you post?

You seem very upset. Sucks that two very high profile sports figures validated what we Irish fans have been saying. I know. 

I think Barkley is smart enough to know that a game played back in August shouldn't have carried as much weight as what it did. I'd also argue that his experience in sports probably gives him more weight than any poster on this forum.

Again, I have no issues with Miami, they showed in the last few weeks that they are playing at a high level. The sham here is Alabama and there's a high probability that this undeserving team may have cost Notre Dame their 12th national title. 

Reeled me in again Temp. Damn, was gonna take this Sunday off. 

Edited December 14, 2025 by 23andCounting

[23andCounting]

7 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

13-0 #1 in the country. ND’s season is over, IU’s is just starting…

Hope you're Hoosiers do well. Hard not to root for Cignetti and Mendoza. 

[Bash Riprock]

13 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Correct , Notre Dames media deal with NBC/ACC almost mirrors what Big 10 schools get . Notre Dame can schedule who they want and keep ALL of their bowl money . So why do they need a conference ? 

Because of what happened this year. They can’t schedule all they want. Teams play tough enough schedules in their own conferences. It will get tougher for ND and their SOS will continue to struggle. Challenging Gordon Gecko, greed isn’t always good. 

[GOLDRUSH1985]

4 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Because of what happened this year. They can’t schedule all they want. Teams play tough enough schedules in their own conferences. It will get tougher for ND and their SOS will continue to struggle. Challenging Gordon Gecko, greed isn’t always good. 

I wouldn't call it greed . If you went to two job interviews and company A was paying 100K with decent benefits , company B was paying 250K with better benefits . Which one are you choosing ?

[Bash Riprock]

5 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

I wouldn't call it greed . If you went to two job interviews and company A was paying 100K with decent benefits , company B was paying 250K with better benefits . Which one are you choosing ?

But they chose $$ years ago and decided to stand alone. Followed a weaker half in, half out ACC path. Risk caught up with them. 

[23andCounting]

28 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

I wouldn't call it greed . If you went to two job interviews and company A was paying 100K with decent benefits , company B was paying 250K with better benefits . Which one are you choosing ?

He's baiting you using words like "greed" and "weaker." Don't fall for it. 

[Bash Riprock]

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

He's baiting you using words like "greed" and "weaker." Don't fall for it. 

It’s not bait man!! Again, 2nd fav college team. But ND took funds over joining a conference. That decision bit them this year. People can play victim all they want…but ND did have control and made some choices, and they took the $$. My guess is there will be changes in the future. How soon?  Anyone’s guess.