temptation Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Me And I laugh at "my other fav teams". Miss me with that nonsense I can respect Coach Cig and his profession and how he goes about it. Doesn't mean I want them to win ...... ND and IU fans. Reversible Jackets never fail Watching their level of conflict in last year’s opening round CFP matchup was a thing of beauty. “We win either way!” Quote
23andCounting Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 20 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Me And I laugh at "my other fav teams". Miss me with that nonsense I can respect Coach Cig and his profession and how he goes about it. Doesn't mean I want them to win ...... ND and IU fans. Reversible Jackets never fail Yeah, but a lot of those fans are the ones keeping your alma mater from being a third world college. So having fans isn't necessarily a bad thing. Do you think Ball State alumni are fans of other football programs? If your answer is "no," then you're lying to yourself. I know for a fact that most of those students are at home on Saturdays cheering on their favorite teams. So really it's just "nonsense" to you, not the masses. Quote
Rodney Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 2 hours ago, 23andCounting said: Yeah, but a lot of those fans are the ones keeping your alma mater from being a third world college. So having fans isn't necessarily a bad thing. Do you think Ball State alumni are fans of other football programs? If your answer is "no," then you're lying to yourself. I know for a fact that most of those students are at home on Saturdays cheering on their favorite teams. So really it's just "nonsense" to you, not the masses. maybe that is just a tad to much on the signature Quote
23andCounting Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 4 minutes ago, Rodney said: maybe that is just a tad to much on the signature I've only just started. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 16 hours ago, 23andCounting said: Yeah, but a lot of those fans are the ones keeping your alma mater from being a third world college. So having fans isn't necessarily a bad thing. Do you think Ball State alumni are fans of other football programs? If your answer is "no," then you're lying to yourself. I know for a fact that most of those students are at home on Saturdays cheering on their favorite teams. So really it's just "nonsense" to you, not the masses. I have 1 friend that is a graduate of Ball State, was at his house for Bears Packers game we talked about ESPN and YT TV bc he switched to Hulu, and said he has to pay for ESPN + so he can watch Ball State football and basketball All I can do is tell you my truth Quote
23andCounting Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 9 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: I have 1 friend that is a graduate of Ball State, was at his house for Bears Packers game we talked about ESPN and YT TV bc he switched to Hulu, and said he has to pay for ESPN + so he can watch Ball State football and basketball All I can do is tell you my truth When I was at Ball State, there were more students watching their favorite teams on TV than there were in the stands. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 6 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: When I was at Ball State, there were more students watching their favorite teams on TV than there were in the stands. Cool Quote
Bobref Posted December 16, 2025 Author Posted December 16, 2025 On 12/15/2025 at 9:33 AM, Bash Riprock said: that didn't sound very positive about IU. Not a believer?? They clearly are really, really good the last couple of years. As to whether it’s sustainable, whether they can become another OSU, Michigan, Oregon, or Penn State, with perennial success like those programs, remains to be seen. It’s very hard to do. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 13 minutes ago, Bobref said: They clearly are really, really good the last couple of years. As to whether it’s sustainable, whether they can become another OSU, Michigan, Oregon, or Penn State, with perennial success like those programs, remains to be seen. It’s very hard to do. That’s fair… but over time many programs do go up and down. I bet we both remember not THAT long ago when Oregon was not a PAC 10 power. A number of powers of yesteryear are not today. I remember after Bryant, Bama was up and down until Saban. Penn State is not the same program of the Paterno era. I agree it’s tough to be in the selection few that sustain. Quote
Bobref Posted December 16, 2025 Author Posted December 16, 2025 14 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: That’s fair… but over time many programs do go up and down. I bet we both remember not THAT long ago when Oregon was not a PAC 10 power. A number of powers of yesteryear are not today. I remember after Bryant, Bama was up and down until Saban. Penn State is not the same program of the Paterno era. I agree it’s tough to be in the selection few that sustain. If it were easy, everyone would do it.😂 I can’t decide if NIL/Transfer Portal makes it easier to stay on top because it makes it easier to “reload,” or harder to stay on top once you get there, because it’s now a lot more common for teams to go quickly from bad to good. 1 Quote
23andCounting Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 As far as coaching goes, Cignetti appears to be on an island of his own. Then a guy like Urban Meyer calls IU the most fundamentally sound team he's ever seen. I think IU is here for the long haul. Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 1 hour ago, Bobref said: If it were easy, everyone would do it.😂 I can’t decide if NIL/Transfer Portal makes it easier to stay on top because it makes it easier to “reload,” or harder to stay on top once you get there, because it’s now a lot more common for teams to go quickly from bad to good. I say recruit very well and fill in the blanks with the portal . Still like when the majority of a team plays a couple of years together . Quote
temptation Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 Only question remaining for me regarding Cignetti is whether or not he can develop a P4 quarterback out of high school, not the portal. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 2 hours ago, 23andCounting said: As far as coaching goes, Cignetti appears to be on an island of his own. Then a guy like Urban Meyer calls IU the most fundamentally sound team he's ever seen. I think IU is here for the long haul. Coach Cignetti as I have stated since before he even won 1 game LAST Year has the message that resinates and now a resume at ALL levels that is impeccable After he leaves, YEARS from now, what will it look like ? who knows, who cares, enjoy the ride now 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 4 hours ago, temptation said: Only question remaining for me regarding Cignetti is whether or not he can develop a P4 quarterback out of high school, not the portal. We shall see about the Mendoza brother, but it is that critical? Any outstanding QB is headed out after year 3 anyways, assuming that the checks are big enough to keep him there from his frosh year. It will be interesting to see if Cig believe in Mendoza 2. I am seeing IU mentioned in the Leavitt and North Texas QB running. (always wonder how accurate) But after watching Mendoza 1, I can see how really good experienced QB's may be looking at IU and Cig for the development needed to ensure serious interest by the NFL. Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 16, 2025 Posted December 16, 2025 1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said: We shall see about the Mendoza brother, but it is that critical? Any outstanding QB is headed out after year 3 anyways, assuming that the checks are big enough to keep him there from his frosh year. It will be interesting to see if Cig believe in Mendoza 2. I am seeing IU mentioned in the Leavitt and North Texas QB running. (always wonder how accurate) But after watching Mendoza 1, I can see how really good experienced QB's may be looking at IU and Cig for the development needed to ensure serious interest by the NFL. Cig is pounding the transfer portal for a QB for next year. He will land someone good, it’s what he does Quote
Bobref Posted December 17, 2025 Author Posted December 17, 2025 28 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: No surprise What about Jadarian Price? Quote
Footballking16 Posted December 17, 2025 Posted December 17, 2025 20 hours ago, temptation said: Only question remaining for me regarding Cignetti is whether or not he can develop a P4 quarterback out of high school, not the portal. Cignetti is not going to roll with an underclassmen at QB, no reason too. Younger Mendoza is only a R-Fr and the oldest QB on the roster set to return, he'll have his chance at some point. Will almost certainly get a proven QB here in the portal. Cig and staff have taken a transfer QB each of the last 6 seasons, 4 have won conference POY for James Madison, Rourke was 2nd team all B-10 and finished 8th in the Heisman, and obviously Mendoza just won every award possible this year. Quote
temptation Posted December 17, 2025 Posted December 17, 2025 5 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Cignetti is not going to roll with an underclassmen at QB, no reason too. Younger Mendoza is only a R-Fr and the oldest QB on the roster set to return, he'll have his chance at some point. Will almost certainly get a proven QB here in the portal. Cig and staff have taken a transfer QB each of the last 6 seasons, 4 have won conference POY for James Madison, Rourke was 2nd team all B-10 and finished 8th in the Heisman, and obviously Mendoza just won every award possible this year. Eventually he's gotta miss on one...yet I have been saying that about OSU for years now. Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted December 17, 2025 Posted December 17, 2025 42 minutes ago, temptation said: Eventually he's gotta miss on one...yet I have been saying that about OSU for years now. Here Doggy,Doggy Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 17, 2025 Posted December 17, 2025 51 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Cignetti is not going to roll with an underclassmen at QB, no reason too. Younger Mendoza is only a R-Fr and the oldest QB on the roster set to return, he'll have his chance at some point. Will almost certainly get a proven QB here in the portal. Cig and staff have taken a transfer QB each of the last 6 seasons, 4 have won conference POY for James Madison, Rourke was 2nd team all B-10 and finished 8th in the Heisman, and obviously Mendoza just won every award possible this year. not sure of accuracy, but a chunk of change....his North Texas coach headed to OK State. Quote
Sparty Posted December 17, 2025 Posted December 17, 2025 14 hours ago, Bobref said: What about Jadarian Price? I only see that he is undecided on if to declare for the 2026 NFL draft Quote
temptation Posted December 17, 2025 Posted December 17, 2025 59 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: Here Doggy,Doggy "Sit..." "Beg.." "Good girl." Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted December 17, 2025 Posted December 17, 2025 1 hour ago, temptation said: "Sit..." "Beg.." "Good girl." It will be OK Little Rascal . Quote
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