2025 College Football Season

[Rodney]

21 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Rodney's in the house 🙂

he's going to go down as one of the all time greats

 

Bonds, Armstrong, Steve Barker, Harbaugh

 

[23andCounting]

10 minutes ago, Rodney said:

he's going to go down as one of the all time greats

 

Bonds, Armstrong, Steve Barker, Harbaugh

 

Don't forget Carroll, McGuire, and Sosa.

[gonzoron]

27 minutes ago, Rodney said:

he's going to go down as one of the all time greats

 

Bonds, Armstrong, Steve Barker, Harbaugh

 

All time great cheaters?

[Bash Riprock]

 

[Komets2727]

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

You're way off the mark on Kelly. The only argument you could make is that maybe he's past his prime. He's won everywhere. Put Notre Dame back into relevance after three others failed. That's saying a lot since one of the criteria to play at Notre Dame is being an actual student. 

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

You're way off the mark on Kelly. The only argument you could make is that maybe he's past his prime. He's won everywhere. Put Notre Dame back into relevance after three others failed. That's saying a lot since one of the criteria to play at Notre Dame is being an actual student. 

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

You're way off the mark on Kelly. The only argument you could make is that maybe he's past his prime. He's won everywhere. Put Notre Dame back into relevance after three others failed. That's saying a lot since one of the criteria to play at Notre Dame is being an actual student. 

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

[23andCounting]

4 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

Once would suffice. 

[Bash Riprock]

 

[gonzoron]

28 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

Kelly is a loser of a coach and a loser of how he treats his players. This would be just brilliant 

You must be one of those who thinks if you say it enough it will be true? LOL.

[temptation]

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

Don't forget Carroll, McGuire, and Sosa.

This might land had Harbaugh not also won at San Diego, Stanford, San Francisco and now LA…

Hell, I think Stalions was in middle school when Harbaugh began his climb so sure, it adds up.

Hater. 

 

[temptation]

2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I think this shows many of you all, that our good pal or foe here @temptation is very level headed imo when it comes to Michigan, this shows he is not just blindly follower of all things Maize and Blue,   You can disagree of the impact of signs and Harbaugh, and all that, but there isnt just blind loyalty 

as seen here 

I am with others:   I think its a blessing LONG term imo 

Thanks for this by the way Coach.  We may have our disagreements but you’re a real straight shooter.

Taking the fact that a families’ entire life was turned upside down tonight (which is the real travesty) out of the equation, I’m going to say something that confirms this very point told by @Coach Nowlin.

The fact that this story broke two weeks ago and was squashed by all of Michigan’s insiders and then breaks as TRUE just a week after national signing day is an awful look and seems calculated.

Was hoping my favorite football program would be better than this.

Apparently not.

[Bash Riprock]

This is so unfortunate if accurate. Hope it’s false  

 

Edited December 11, 2025 by Bash Riprock

[Footballking16]

Harbaugh got a 15 year show cause, Sherrone going to get 15 years in jail. (tic)

I’d say hire Jesse Minter but pretty sure that guy is banned too.

Tom Allen is available…

[Footballking16]

 

[23andCounting]

6 hours ago, temptation said:

This might land had Harbaugh not also won at San Diego, Stanford, San Francisco and now LA…

Hell, I think Stalions was in middle school when Harbaugh began his climb so sure, it adds up.

Hater. 

 

I don't hate Harbaugh. As another poster stated, he just wants to win more than everyone else. 

Pretty good week for you, huh?................ "This is the meltdown I am here for…"

Careful what you wish for. 

[Footballking16]

Is this the only guy to be born on base and get picked off all in the same at-bat? What an idiot.

[temptation]

6 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

Harbaugh got a 15 year show cause, Sherrone going to get 15 years in jail. (tic)

I’d say hire Jesse Minter but pretty sure that guy is banned too.

Tom Allen is available…

Minter's show cause expires on 12/25.

4 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

I don't hate Harbaugh. As another poster stated, he just wants to win more than everyone else. 

Pretty good week for you, huh?................ "This is the meltdown I am here for…"

Careful what you wish for. 

Eh, as mentioned.  Michigan will fail forward with this next hire.

There will be some short term pain though.

Notice the difference in how we reacted to our favorite university football teams embarassing themselves this week?

WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

[Bobref]

4 minutes ago, temptation said:

Minter's show cause expires on 12/25.

Wouldn’t you think, after what’s gone on the last several years, that they would be looking to hire someone who’s squeaky clean?

[temptation]

4 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Wouldn’t you think, after what’s gone on the last several years, that they would be looking to hire someone who’s squeaky clean?

Is anyone?

[Muda69]

Mitch Albom: Sherrone Moore firing surprise, but it's not a shock: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/mitch-albom/2025/12/11/sherrone-moore-firing-not-surprising-just-the-latest-ncaa-college-football/87711834007/?tbref=hp

 

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No one is above anything.

If you haven’t learned that by now in the new world of college football, learn it today. Schools aren’t above bad behavior. Players aren’t above bad behavior. Coaches aren’t above bad behavior.

The only surprise left is that anyone is surprised at anything, anymore.

The sudden firing on Wednesday, Dec. 10, of Michigan football coach Sherrone Moore – who less than two years ago was being celebrated as the right man at the right time – only proves that what you see and what you get can be two different things in college sports today.

Moore was characterized as a strong-willed, disciplined young leader, who in his introductory press conference said, “I coach hard, but I love harder.”

 

That once admirable statement will now become a punchline, after Moore was dismissed by U-M for an “inappropriate relationship with a staff member.”

“This conduct constitutes a clear violation of University policy,” athletic director Warde Manuel said in a statement, “and U-M maintains zero tolerance for such behavior.”

With that, the coach who took over in 2024, after Jim Harbaugh shocked fans by jumping to the NFL, departs with a shock of his own.

Or maybe it’s just a shock to folks who still believed that being the leader of a major college team implied responsibility, decorum, self-discipline and role-model behavior.

Silly us.

No one is above anything.

Don't brag, gloat or judge yet

Now, it must be said that, as of this writing, no one has heard Moore’s side of the story. He was detained by Saline Police, and turned over to Pittsfield Township Police on Wednesday. Hours after the initial call, Moore was booked in the Washtenaw County jail.

That looks really bad. You start the day as Michigan football coach and end it in a cell? But Moore’s side will eventually be forthcoming. And I’m guessing it won’t match Michigan’s.

Who you ultimately believe will depend on what you hear. But we all should wait until both sides have clearly stated their cases.

In the interim, the lesson here is simple: Don’t brag and don’t gloat. Because your school could be next.

Let’s be honest: There’s plenty of hidden smirking between our state’s two big universities whenever one or the other gets egg on its face.

Spartan fans clucked when Michigan basketball had its Ed Martin scandals. Wolverine fans rolled their eyes when Mel Tucker sunk in inglorious fashion.

No doubt some Michigan State fans are enjoying this ignoble end to Moore’s tenure. They will point out that Michigan haughtily paints itself as a university above such behavior.

Nonsense. There are no universities above any behavior.

Are MSU fans so quickly forgetting the brutal Larry Nassar saga? Or how Tucker was fired for harassing anti-sexual violence advocate Brenda Tracy?

Are Michigan fans forgetting the Connor Stalions sign-stealing scandal that resulted in nearly $30 million in NCAA fines and show-cause penalties for much of the coaching staff that departed after 2023's CFP title? Or the lawsuit over sexual abuse by former team doctor Robert Anderson, which resulted in a $490 million settlement?

No one is above anything. No school. No team. No player.

Not anymore.

No surprises anymore

If Moore did what the school announced he was fired for, he would only join a long list of coaches – including, but not limited to Bobby Petrino at Arkansas, Rick Pitino at Louisville, Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss and even Rich Rodriguez (who used to have Moore’s job at U-M) at Arizona – all of whom were accused of sexual misconduct on the job.

 

Meanwhile, schools such as LSU think nothing of wooing a coach such as Lane Kiffin away from his team before the College Football Playoff field has been announced, and coaches such as Kiffin think nothing of taking the money and bolting, while claiming that God told him, “It’s time to take a new step.”

Let’s leave God out of college football, shall we?

It’s clearly the low country for men, with mostly good behavior but too often bad. It’s a tapestry of the Jerry Sandusky abuse at Penn State, a hazing scandal at Northwestern and accusations of players betting on their own action at Iowa and Iowa State. Heck, just last month, MSU had 14 wins in 2023 and 2024 – under three coaches (though only through the actions of one, Tucker) – vacated for recruiting violations.

Michigan, with Moore sitting in a jail cell Wednesday evening, just scribbled its name back on the list.

This is the sport now. Or should I say the business? So cynical has college football become that people are already whispering that perhaps this was a good thing for Michigan after Moore's eight losses in two seasons.

Others are murmuring that it’s open season on Michigan’s stars – such as freshman quarterback Bryce Underwood – to be wooed away by other schools and their NIL money.

Lost in all of this is that the first Black head coach in Michigan football history has just gone down in flames, and his wife and three daughters will now be subject to the worst kind of public attention.

That may be his fault. Or maybe not. We still do not know.

What we do know is that none of this should surprise you.

No one is above anything.

The sooner we accept that, the sooner we’ll stop feeling like we just got hit in the face with a maize-and-blue shovel.

Yep, this could happen at any university.

 

[gonzoron]

11 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

This is so unfortunate if accurate. Hope it’s false  

 

If you read the comments, the historical veracity of this tweeter's posts is questionable.

[Bobref]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Is anyone?

I just know that if I were the AD, I would be doing the due diligence of all due diligences.

[Footballking16]

26 minutes ago, Bobref said:

I just know that if I were the AD, I would be doing the due diligence of all due diligences.

How does Warde Manuel still have a job?

 

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Minter's show cause expires on 12/25.

Eh, as mentioned.  Michigan will fail forward with this next hire.

There will be some short term pain though.

Notice the difference in how we reacted to our favorite university football teams embarassing themselves this week?

WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

Again..........."This is the meltdown I am here for," tells me all I need to know about you. Any morsal of respect I had for you is out the door. I may have called FootballKing a couple of names, but I'd never wish anything but the best for his personal life in spite disagreeing about football............even yours for that matter. Same with Moore, I feel for whatever this man is going through and wish him only the best.  But you? You said it yourself. You're here for the meltdowns and controversies. 

What happened yesterday doesn't even compare to what happened on Sunday. My anger was shared with 8.21 million other Notre Dame fans. I can't imagine even ONE of the 6.26 million Michigan fans condoning Moore's actions and not being embarrassed about it..........not even you. Certainly doesn't qualify you as "level headed." 

 

 

[23andCounting]

2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Mitch Albom: Sherrone Moore firing surprise, but it's not a shock: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/mitch-albom/2025/12/11/sherrone-moore-firing-not-surprising-just-the-latest-ncaa-college-football/87711834007/?tbref=hp

 

Yep, this could happen at any university.

 

Good read, Mitch Albom hits the nail on the head. 

[Bash Riprock]