2025 College Football Season

[Bash Riprock]

3 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

No question about it, he's good. Call him great if you want. I'll roll with very good for now. 

It would seem a current Michigan assistant now interim head coach claims Michigan has been a mess over the past 5 years. That includes part of the Harbaugh tenure. Perhaps he sold out to get the big one??? Great coach?  Very good coach?  

 

[23andCounting]

8 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

It would seem a current Michigan assistant now interim head coach claims Michigan has been a mess over the past 5 years. That includes part of the Harbaugh tenure. Perhaps he sold out to get the big one??? Great coach?  Very good coach?  

 

The whole thing really is just a mess. Jim Harbaugh = Pete Carroll. Too many rules at the college level for it to make sense for either of those guys. Better suited in the NFL. 

[Coach Nowlin]

Who is winning?   

What is the goals here fellas?   

 

Groundhog Day EVERYDAY      

 

FYI:  JMU covered vs Oregon, would not call that a waste of a spot 

 

The 3 closet ND friends off mine have been the most level headed about it all and have acted 100% opposite of the tone here 

 

What else is left to discuss in the world of Michigan under Harbaugh and Merrone?    Think it's well covered, however Moore move on Instagram seems ..... interesting......   

 

oooof 

[23andCounting]

8 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Who is winning?   

What is the goals here fellas?   

Groundhog Day EVERYDAY      

FYI:  JMU covered vs Oregon, would not call that a waste of a spot 

The 3 closet ND friends off mine have been the most level headed about it all and have acted 100% opposite of the tone here 

What else is left to discuss in the world of Michigan under Harbaugh and Merrone?    Think it's well covered, however Moore move on Instagram seems ..... interesting......   

oooof 

All my friends are level headed......................and also pissed. Not sure how you can be a true Notre Dame fan and not be pissed off about the best Irish team since 1993 not being in the playoffs. Hell, this years team is better than the one that played last year for the title. So yeah, I think the tone here is warranted. 

What does JMU covering against Oregon have to do with whether them being in is a waste of time? It was a blowout. That equates to a waste of time. 

Why give these mid majors false hope? They have 0% chance to win. I think the NCAA needs to discuss this with the AD's of all the mid majors. Ask them if they'd rather set themselves up for disaster in the CFPS, or have their own separate tournament all together. Think of the money stood to be made with two different tournaments. 

I doubt there is a person on this forum who wouldn't watch 12 or 16 mid majors duke it out for supremacy in their weight class. 

[Sparty]

15 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

All my friends are level headed......................and also pissed. Not sure how you can be a true Notre Dame fan and not be pissed off about the best Irish team since 1993 not being in the playoffs. Hell, this years team is better than the one that played last year for the title. So yeah, I think the tone here is warranted. 

What does JMU covering against Oregon have to do with whether them being in is a waste of time? It was a blowout. That equates to a waste of time. 

Why give these mid majors false hope? They have 0% chance to win. I think the NCAA needs to discuss this with the AD's of all the mid majors. Ask them if they'd rather set themselves up for disaster in the CFPS, or have their own separate tournament all together. Think of the money stood to be made with two different tournaments. 

I doubt there is a person on this forum who wouldn't watch 12 or 16 mid majors duke it out for supremacy in their weight class. 

I can only speak for myself so I’ll do my best.  ND lost 2 games against teams that made the playoffs and they agreed to these terms.  

[Coach Nowlin]

Exactly what my inner ND peeps tell me as well.    They played, they lost, complain all you want about the rules of the process but they played by them and lost out..... they have all moved on it seems......

here, nope, the amount of same Rhetoric repeating itself over and over again....  ugh and quite honestly, boring 

Maybe because I have been here so long, I literally knew the moment I came back to the laptop after not being on it since last Tuesday, last day of school for me, that when I clicked on all these threads in here, without reading a word I could of told anyone what was said and by who and the circular round about we go..... over and over....   so again,  ask, what is your end goals here?     

 

[Bash Riprock]

47 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Who is winning?   

What is the goals here fellas?   

 

Groundhog Day EVERYDAY      

 

FYI:  JMU covered vs Oregon, would not call that a waste of a spot 

 

The 3 closet ND friends off mine have been the most level headed about it all and have acted 100% opposite of the tone here 

 

What else is left to discuss in the world of Michigan under Harbaugh and Merrone?    Think it's well covered, however Moore move on Instagram seems ..... interesting......   

 

oooof 

When the current interim head coach claims the organization at Michigan has been malfunctioning for 5 years, that is newsworthy.  That period spans 2 different head coaches, and is the opinion of a Michigan insider that lives in this culture.  That says a ton about the entire Michigan administration, including head coaches.  Additionally, Harbaugh hired Moore to his staff in 2018 and heavily endorsed him for the Michigan head coaching job when he left for the Chargers.  

Michigan has a mess to clean up and according to Poggi, it didn't start with Moore....which most of us already knew.

[Rodney]

13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Exactly what my inner ND peeps tell me as well.    They played, they lost, complain all you want about the rules of the process but they played by them and lost out..... they have all moved on it seems......

here, nope, the amount of same Rhetoric repeating itself over and over again....  ugh and quite honestly, boring 

Maybe because I have been here so long, I literally knew the moment I came back to the laptop after not being on it since last Tuesday, last day of school for me, that when I clicked on all these threads in here, without reading a word I could of told anyone what was said and by who and the circular round about we go..... over and over....   so again,  ask, what is your end goals here?     

 

Bet I can keep you guessing

[Coach Nowlin]

12 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

When the current interim head coach claims the organization at Michigan has been malfunctioning for 5 years, that is newsworthy.  That period spans 2 different head coaches, and is the opinion of a Michigan insider that lives in this culture.  That says a ton about the entire Michigan administration, including head coaches.  Additionally, Harbaugh hired Moore to his staff in 2018 and heavily endorsed him for the Michigan head coaching job when he left for the Chargers.  

Michigan has a mess to clean up and according to Poggi, it didn't start with Moore....which most of us already knew.

General statement applied across multiple conversations of same ilk.....  

BTW:  My dark horse is Jeff Brohm to U M

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Exactly what my inner ND peeps tell me as well.    They played, they lost, complain all you want about the rules of the process but they played by them and lost out..... they have all moved on it seems......

here, nope, the amount of same Rhetoric repeating itself over and over again....  ugh and quite honestly, boring 

Maybe because I have been here so long, I literally knew the moment I came back to the laptop after not being on it since last Tuesday, last day of school for me, that when I clicked on all these threads in here, without reading a word I could of told anyone what was said and by who and the circular round about we go..... over and over....   so again,  ask, what is your end goals here?     

 

Well, infinitesimal progress has been made on retroactively awarding ND a spot in the 2025 playoff and vacating Michigan’s 2023 national championship. 

2 hours ago, Sparty said:

I can only speak for myself so I’ll do my best.  ND lost 2 games against teams that made the playoffs and they agreed to these terms.  

Same here. I was far more disappointed in the program’s decision to skip the bowl game.

Edited December 23, 2025 by PDB26

[23andCounting]

2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

what is your end goals here?     

Discuss football. Share opinions. Banter back and forth. 

[Bash Riprock]

 

[Komets2727]

12 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

The whole thing really is just a mess. Jim Harbaugh = Pete Carroll. Too many rules at the college level for it to make sense for either of those guys. Better suited in the NFL. 

Harbaugh is far worse. Facts don’t lie. Hell, the interim coach just buried him as he should 

2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

 

Notice Temp is nowhere to be found as one of their own puts the final nail in the coffin

Edited December 24, 2025 by Komets2727

[Bash Riprock]

11 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Harbaugh is far worse. Facts don’t lie. Hell, the interim coach just buried him as he should 

Notice Temp is nowhere to be found as one of their own puts the final nail in the coffin

Temp is way too quiet….penalty box?? 

[Bash Riprock]

That is a decent exodus if he’s right….

 

[PHJIrish]

On 12/22/2025 at 11:13 PM, Bash Riprock said:

So what do you do with schools outside the P4?  Have their own playoffs?  Kind of like high school class football? I could get behind that. 

If you are to have a "championship" you need to have the best teams playing in it.  It's just that simple.  Vanderbilt and BYU would have their way with Tulane and James Madison too.

Myself, I wouldn't mind seeing an all-in playoff.  Cut back to 11 games and let everyone play. It would take an extra couple of games but it would avoid the criticism that comes with a committee choosing teams.  And that would take care of conference champions making the playoffs, except those who the committee thought not worthy, like Duke.  If you're going by the rules, Duke's in.

[Bash Riprock]

Looks like judge denied the motion to dismiss the former Michigan OC charges for his 10 charges for aggravated identity theft....more than 3300 student athletes...mostly women.  What a mess...what a culture...... 

Who hired both Sherrone Moore and Matt Weiss at University of Michigan??  Of yeah...that "great coach" Jim Harbaugh....

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47398842/judge-rules-matt-weiss-face-aggravated-id-theft-charges

 

[GOLDRUSH1985]

2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

Temp is way too quiet….penalty box?? 

Ya , it looks like The Little Rascal got put in the corner for awhile . 

[Komets2727]

2 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Ya , it looks like The Little Rascal got put in the corner for awhile . 

Very likely, he was going back and forth with a MOD a couple days ago and was warned on several occasions. Think he did it on purpose knowing what was coming with the Poggi comments…

[Bobref]

2 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Very likely, he was going back and forth with a MOD a couple days ago and was warned on several occasions. Think he did it on purpose knowing what was coming with the Poggi comments…

He may well have been given a holiday vacation. I don’t know. But @temptation has never backed away from a fight about Michigan yet. He would just double down on Biff. So, there’s no way he got suspended on purpose to avoid this issue. He’s usually wrong, but always ready to do battle.

[gonzoron]

2 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

he was going back and forth with a MOD a couple days ago and was warned on several occasions.

Darn, I always miss the good stuff.

[Komets2727]

Whittingham has emerged as the favorite to become the head coach at Michigan. My question is that he is 66 years old so this is likely a stop gap hire

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, Komets2727 said:

Whittingham has emerged as the favorite to become the head coach at Michigan. My question is that he is 66 years old so this is likely a stop gap hire

Brian Kelly would be a better choice in my opinion. It's tempting (no pun intended) for Michigan, but they're too bullheaded to take LSU's leftovers. I still think Kelly is a good coach. But you have to have a good support staff, and that's what Kelly was lacking at LSU. 

[Sparty]

1 hour ago, Komets2727 said:

Whittingham has emerged as the favorite to become the head coach at Michigan. My question is that he is 66 years old so this is likely a stop gap hire

Seems like a solid choice.  I would agree with your stop gap hire assessment.  I would guess, Coach W would come in, help clean up the “image”, possibly mentor a “coach in waiting” soon and go from there.  

[Komets2727]

59 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Seems like a solid choice.  I would agree with your stop gap hire assessment.  I would guess, Coach W would come in, help clean up the “image”, possibly mentor a “coach in waiting” soon and go from there.  

Thinking 2-4 years to groom a head coach in waiting. If Whittingham is the guy, I would say he would be hired in the next 4-5 days. If not, then if Alabama loses to Indiana, DeBoer could still be in the mix