temptation Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: Good stuff. At least Notre Dame's kids were given a choice. They're disappointed. Those kids were making plans to win a national championship. They don't want to play BYU. It's insulting. Hope as they enter adulthood and their post collegiate careers, they also quit, opt out and run from things they find that personally insult them. Losers mindset. 17 minutes ago, psaboy said: I agree with ND puling out, good for them. I'm sure if they did go to any bowl outside the CFP, most key players would opt out, esp Love and Price, the future is next year in NFL And the younger players? Extra reps do them any good? Edited December 8, 2025 by temptation Quote
psaboy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 19 minutes ago, RingLeader said: Please explain how joining a conference helps ND? How so? So is Ole Miss Well Ole Miss is the CFP, not the lower level scrub bowls. I doubt Ole Miss would back out of playing in that. Quote
23andCounting Posted December 8, 2025 Author Posted December 8, 2025 19 minutes ago, psaboy said: I agree with ND puling out, good for them. I'm sure if they did go to any bowl outside the CFP, most key players would opt out, esp Love and Price, the future is next year in NFL The CFP basically said "screw you" to the kids at Notre Dame. Notre Dame said "screw you" back. Can't hardly blame them. 1 Quote
Footballking16 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 38 minutes ago, RingLeader said: Players voted overwhelmingly not to play in Pop Tarts Bowl. kansas st, Iowa St, Baylor all opting out of bowls too ….their players got no say Kansas State and Iowa State just lost their coaches and will have their rosters ravaged by the portal. Apples to Oranges compared to the temper tantrum ND is throwing. Quote
23andCounting Posted December 8, 2025 Author Posted December 8, 2025 10 minutes ago, temptation said: Hope as they enter adulthood and their post collegiate careers, they also quit, opt out and run from things they find that personally insult them. You wishing that upon a kid after they just their heart ripped out of them is pretty telling. I wouldn't worry about these kids Temp. They go to Notre Dame. They've got the world at their fingertips. Quote
psaboy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 12 minutes ago, temptation said: Hope as they enter adulthood and their post collegiate careers, they also quit, opt out and run from things they find that personally insult them. Losers mindset. And the younger players? Extra reps do them any good? I'm guessing the younger ones supported as well, but we will probably never know the full story Quote
Footballking16 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 32 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: Good stuff. At least Notre Dame's kids were given a choice. They're disappointed. Those kids were making plans to win a national championship. They don't want to play BYU. It's insulting. BYU had a better resume than ND (and Miami)….. Quote
psaboy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 12 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: BYU had a better resume than ND (and Miami)….. Why are the Mormons not crying foul?? Quote
Yuccaguy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 7 minutes ago, psaboy said: Why are the Mormons not crying foul?? Have a Coke and a smile and shut up! Quote
psaboy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 3 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said: Have a Coke and a smile and shut up! Shut up? What's up with that?? Are you an internet bully? 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 56 minutes ago, RingLeader said: Players voted overwhelmingly not to play in Pop Tarts Bowl. kansas st, Iowa St, Baylor all opting out of bowls too ….their players got no say Not going to look them all up, but Iowa State players absolutely had a voice. (According to the Des Moines Register) Teams in Big 12 are all being fined by their conference for boycotting bowls 1 Quote
Yuccaguy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 10 minutes ago, psaboy said: Shut up? What's up with that?? Are you an internet bully? Nope just cut it out with the BYU stuff about not being upset. Of course they are. This is an Indiana Based blog. Quote
psaboy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 4 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said: Nope just cut it out with the BYU stuff about not being upset. Of course they are. This is an Indiana Based blog. With many different talking points, I will carry on the way I feel. Thanks anyway. Quote
Yuccaguy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 8 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Not going to look them all up, but Iowa State players absolutely had a voice. (According to the Des Moines Register) Teams in Big 12 are all being fined by their conference for boycotting bowls Take the fine, and do what's best for the players. It's patently obvious that those players who believe they could make the 'next level' would opt out anyway. 3 minutes ago, psaboy said: With many different talking points, I will carry on the way I feel. Thanks anyway. Of course you will..... 1 Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 2 hours ago, 23andCounting said: C'mon. It's a sham because they didn't earn it on the field? Being the fourth most likely to win according to Vegas is a sham? Favored by 5.5 points at Oklahoma is a sham? It's a sham because the SEC and ACC are in bed with ESPN who happen to run the CFP. That, my man, is the sham. What did they earn on the field? Best USC, that’s it. No other team they beat is in the top 25. Hell, most are bottom feeders. Look it up. As far as ESPN being in bed with the SEC, duh. It’s played out in front of us all year. Very concerning 2 hours ago, 23andCounting said: Dumber than I thought you were. Your stupidity disappoints me. The name calling disappoints me, but hey, what do I know. Been watching all my life, the Irish didn’t earn it on the field, beat nobody Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, RingLeader said: Please explain how joining a conference helps ND? Articles out there to read. Give Google a shot. Quote
Yuccaguy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 7 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Articles out there to read. Give Google a shot. Totally agreed. Join the Sun Belt and RUN THROUGH it. Guaranteed, seeding in the CFP. Keep the NBC thang going with home games, perhaps get NBC in on the road games also??? Toss a couple of Million NBC $$ at the others and it's on with rest of the Conference. "Power 5" entrance err year! Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 11 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said: Totally agreed. Join the Sun Belt and RUN THROUGH it. Guaranteed, seeding in the CFP. Keep the NBC thang going with home games, perhaps get NBC in on the road games also??? Toss a couple of Million NBC $$ at the others and it's on with rest of the Conference. "Power 5" entrance err year! Hell yeah, the Sun Belt would be great for the Irish. Would be a great upgrade to the schedule the currently play 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, psaboy said: Why are the Mormons not crying foul?? Because they suck. Quote
RingLeader Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 9 hours ago, psaboy said: Well Ole Miss is the CFP, not the lower level scrub bowls. I doubt Ole Miss would back out of playing in that. Exactly, Ole Miss is without a HC but they’re in the dance so they play. But Iowa St and K St skipping bowls is ok for you since their HC’s left. All you haters can bring out the pitchforks and torches on ND, I get it, but the facts are there were clearly some questionable things done with the CFP rankings in the last week. The Miami/ND situation was one thing but Alabama was bumped up from 10th to 9th last week and ND from 9th to 10th for no reason other than to protect Bama prior to the Georgia game. Bama struggled to beat a very bad Auburn team while ND throttled Stanford. Yet Bama was moved up…why? It would’ve been very hard to explain reasoning for jumping ND if they lost, and impossible if they suffered a beat down(which they did). Had they had Bama and Miami ranked ahead all along nobody would be questioning it, but fact is for every week of the CFP rankings ND was clearly in field…..until yesterday at noon. Two bubble teams were pummeled and two didn’t play. One loser dropped, one loser didn’t, one non player jumped up and one non player suddenly dropped. Why? Quote
temptation Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 10 hours ago, 23andCounting said: You wishing that upon a kid after they just their heart ripped out of them is pretty telling. I wouldn't worry about these kids Temp. They go to Notre Dame. They've got the world at their fingertips. With an added dose of arrogance and an inflated sense of importance to boot. Quote
temptation Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 (edited) 34 minutes ago, RingLeader said: Exactly, Ole Miss is without a HC but they’re in the dance so they play. But Iowa St and K St skipping bowls is ok for you since their HC’s left. All you haters can bring out the pitchforks and torches on ND, I get it, but the facts are there were clearly some questionable things done with the CFP rankings in the last week. The Miami/ND situation was one thing but Alabama was bumped up from 10th to 9th last week and ND from 9th to 10th for no reason other than to protect Bama prior to the Georgia game. Bama struggled to beat a very bad Auburn team while ND throttled Stanford. Yet Bama was moved up…why? It would’ve been very hard to explain reasoning for jumping ND if they lost, and impossible if they suffered a beat down(which they did). Had they had Bama and Miami ranked ahead all along nobody would be questioning it, but fact is for every week of the CFP rankings ND was clearly in field…..until yesterday at noon. Two bubble teams were pummeled and two didn’t play. One loser dropped, one loser didn’t, one non player jumped up and one non player suddenly dropped. Why? Because the Tuesday night ranking shows are all for show and to get the talking heads going…when in actuality they mean nothing and the committee is going to do whatever they want in December anyway. @23andCounting in 2024…the Northern Illinois loss was not disqualifying and ND deserves to be in the playoff! @23andCounting in 2025…did you see? Alabama lost to Florida State in week 1! Edited December 8, 2025 by temptation Quote
psaboy Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, RingLeader said: Exactly, Ole Miss is without a HC but they’re in the dance so they play. But Iowa St and K St skipping bowls is ok for you since their HC’s left. All you haters can bring out the pitchforks and torches on ND, I get it, but the facts are there were clearly some questionable things done with the CFP rankings in the last week. The Miami/ND situation was one thing but Alabama was bumped up from 10th to 9th last week and ND from 9th to 10th for no reason other than to protect Bama prior to the Georgia game. Bama struggled to beat a very bad Auburn team while ND throttled Stanford. Yet Bama was moved up…why? It would’ve been very hard to explain reasoning for jumping ND if they lost, and impossible if they suffered a beat down(which they did). Had they had Bama and Miami ranked ahead all along nobody would be questioning it, but fact is for every week of the CFP rankings ND was clearly in field…..until yesterday at noon. Two bubble teams were pummeled and two didn’t play. One loser dropped, one loser didn’t, one non player jumped up and one non player suddenly dropped. Why? Please point out where I said it was OK for ISU and KSU to be opting out, I was just stating fact. I'm actually OK with ND opting out. I fully support your second point, AL loses and they jump ND, that's a hard one to explain. Most of the MSM is focusing on why the U is in and ND is out, where it should be why is Bama in and ND is out. I feel I know why, but will not pontificate on that one because someone may tell me to shut up 😀 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, RingLeader said: Exactly, Ole Miss is without a HC but they’re in the dance so they play. But Iowa St and K St skipping bowls is ok for you since their HC’s left. All you haters can bring out the pitchforks and torches on ND, I get it, but the facts are there were clearly some questionable things done with the CFP rankings in the last week. The Miami/ND situation was one thing but Alabama was bumped up from 10th to 9th last week and ND from 9th to 10th for no reason other than to protect Bama prior to the Georgia game. Bama struggled to beat a very bad Auburn team while ND throttled Stanford. Yet Bama was moved up…why? It would’ve been very hard to explain reasoning for jumping ND if they lost, and impossible if they suffered a beat down(which they did). Had they had Bama and Miami ranked ahead all along nobody would be questioning it, but fact is for every week of the CFP rankings ND was clearly in field…..until yesterday at noon. Two bubble teams were pummeled and two didn’t play. One loser dropped, one loser didn’t, one non player jumped up and one non player suddenly dropped. Why? One can easily argue that the committee should have never let ND pass Miami in the first place and they fixed a wrong..albeit it was late. The Bama thing...I get that one....Herbstreit in one comment indicated BYU should be held accountable for their beating in the conference championship and then later stated Bama should get a free pass for their bad showing. This one smells bad and is wny I don't believe any conference should be affiliated with ESPN/ABC/Disney. Without question I believe that to be a conflict of interest. Quote
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