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[Muda69]

1 hour ago, Boilernation said:

Mr. Cignetti may be listening...........

[Boilernation]

6 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Mr. Cignetti may be listening...........

And waiting for Tibbs to hit the portal.

[Komets2727]

3 hours ago, Boilernation said:

the worst? Seems a little hyperbolic. It's still the Big Ten. Plenty of coached who know they aren't getting a job at a National Title contender would be interested. Find a proven leader who can schem and build culture. Shoot for a consistant 7-9 win season type of program. 

Tell me a worse program. Usually, you could say Vanderbilt or Northwestern but that is not true anymore. Look at the bottom of all the power 5 conferences and show me one program worse…

[Boilernation]

1 minute ago, Komets2727 said:

Tell me a worse program. Usually, you could say Vanderbilt or Northwestern but that is not true anymore. Look at the bottom of all the power 5 conferences and show me one program worse…

Well, for starters there are only 4 power conferences. And it's truly hard to guage without knowing each schools NIL collective. We do know that Purdue will have much more Revenue from being in the Big Ten than most schools. I would say why is Purdue a difinitively worse job than the following low hanging fruit:

Big 12: Kansas, CIncinnati, UCF, West Virginia

ACC: Syracuse, Boston College, Duke, Virginia, Call, Stanford, Wake Forest

Again, without knowing NIL availability, it's truly hard to gauge who is better or worse for a perspective coach.

 

[Komets2727]

42 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

Well, for starters there are only 4 power conferences. And it's truly hard to guage without knowing each schools NIL collective. We do know that Purdue will have much more Revenue from being in the Big Ten than most schools. I would say why is Purdue a difinitively worse job than the following low hanging fruit:

Big 12: Kansas, CIncinnati, UCF, West Virginia

ACC: Syracuse, Boston College, Duke, Virginia, Call, Stanford, Wake Forest

Again, without knowing NIL availability, it's truly hard to gauge who is better or worse for a perspective coach.

 

Every one of those teams are better than Purdue. Why bring up NIL? It has done nothing for Purdue up to this point. Some of the teams you list are going to bowl games. 

Edited December 2, 2024 by Komets2727

[PHJIrish]

28 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Every one of those teams are better than Purdue. Why bring up NIL? It has done nothing for Purdue up to this point. Some of the teams you list are going to bowl games. 

Like!

[Boilernation]

3 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Every one of those teams are better than Purdue. Why bring up NIL? It has done nothing for Purdue up to this point. Some of the teams you list are going to bowl games. 

You think a coach looking at Purdue cares about this years record or who is going to Bowl games? Are you saying it’s the worst job among Power 4 or just the worst team this year? Maybe I misunderstood you.

[Komets2727]

10 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

You think a coach looking at Purdue cares about this years record or who is going to Bowl games? Are you saying it’s the worst job among Power 4 or just the worst team this year? Maybe I misunderstood you.

By far, the worst team this year, but, in reality, I really believe it is the worst job in the Power 4 conferences. The cupboard is completely empty, the crappy players they do have are exiting quickly, the lack of effort given all year was abysmal, and the administration just plain sucks. I thought Hope and Hazell years were the bottom of the ladder, but those were great years compared to this.

[Boilernation]

23 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

By far, the worst team this year, but, in reality, I really believe it is the worst job in the Power 4 conferences. The cupboard is completely empty, the crappy players they do have are exiting quickly, the lack of effort given all year was abysmal, and the administration just plain sucks. I thought Hope and Hazell years were the bottom of the ladder, but those were great years compared to this.

Got ya. Worst team, very likely. Worst job? I guess it just depends on how you look at. An empty coupboard can be corrected a lot quicker nowadays with the portal. NIL and Conference Revenue are important as well. I would think there are much worse jobs out there, like Cal. 

[Komets2727]

2 hours ago, Boilernation said:

Got ya. Worst team, very likely. Worst job? I guess it just depends on how you look at. An empty coupboard can be corrected a lot quicker nowadays with the portal. NIL and Conference Revenue are important as well. I would think there are much worse jobs out there, like Cal. 

Look at IU, they corrected their issue with a brilliant hire and using the transfer portal. The jury is still out if this is sustainable for IU, but their coach is dynamic and he gets complete buy in by the players. I just believe Purdue is in a far worse position than IU was before Cignetti. You bring up Cal, beautiful weather, beautiful campus, I am going there long before I would consider Purdue. Big 10 is a brutal conference to play in when you have no players and you are going to get your ass handed to you weekly. They have to nail it with their new hire and hope that Coach can change the culture overnight 

[Boilernation]

10 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Look at IU, they corrected their issue with a brilliant hire and using the transfer portal. The jury is still out if this is sustainable for IU, but their coach is dynamic and he gets complete buy in by the players. I just believe Purdue is in a far worse position than IU was before Cignetti. You bring up Cal, beautiful weather, beautiful campus, I am going there long before I would consider Purdue. Big 10 is a brutal conference to play in when you have no players and you are going to get your ass handed to you weekly. They have to nail it with their new hire and hope that Coach can change the culture overnight 

Ultimately though, I always think cash is king. Places like Cal don't have it. Too many schools affiliated with the University of California school system and funding for athletics is not a high priority. 

And I would definately go the Cignetti route. Mature, experienced coach who can scheme and build a culture. It worked once with Tiller, but it's fair to admit that was at a completely different time and he got very lucky when a youngster in Austin hurt his arm and the Texas schools stopped recruiting him.

[Coach Nowlin]

20 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

Little surprised to see that one, given his home and the family's university connections.....

 Meh, not a very productive player when given his opportunities 

19 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Mr. Cignetti may be listening...........

He would not see the field at IU 

16 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

Every one of those teams are better than Purdue. Why bring up NIL? It has done nothing for Purdue up to this point. Some of the teams you list are going to bowl games. 

See what Mack Brown just said in last public comments since being let go at UNC.  "Next guy gets $12 Million when we only had $4 Million for NIL".  

Purdue is self sufficient Athletic Dept, now with Revenue sharing they have to give up more of their own money, but yes Purdue didn't have the War Chest that IU and many others had available to them to pay for these players

 

 

4 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

Ultimately though, I always think cash is king. Places like Cal don't have it. Too many schools affiliated with the University of California school system and funding for athletics is not a high priority. 

And I would definately go the Cignetti route. Mature, experienced coach who can scheme and build a culture. It worked once with Tiller, but it's fair to admit that was at a completely different time and he got very lucky when a youngster in Austin hurt his arm and the Texas schools stopped recruiting him.

Nobody in California cares about college sports like they do other places.   

[Bash Riprock]

4 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

 See what Mack Brown just said in last public comments since being let go at UNC.  "Next guy gets $12 Million when we only had $4 Million for NIL".  

Purdue is self sufficient Athletic Dept, now with Revenue sharing they have to give up more of their own money, but yes Purdue didn't have the War Chest that IU and many others had available to them to pay for these players

 

 

Hey Coach...there is no doubt IU has a wealthy athletic budget.  But somehow I don't think they paid the farm for players from James Madison, Ohio U, Kent State, Wake Forest, etc.  It would seem the real key is how to take 3* type players and develop them to exceed their perceived potential.  It would seem this is trait of Cignetti and his staff and it would seem there are other coaches out there with this ability as well.

I am not saying IU won't go after the 4 and 5* players...they will and they will have the funds to get a few....but with Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Michigan in the neighborhoods, that will always be the chore ahead of them.  But if they can absolutely beat the Louisville's, Illinois, Michigan State's, Cincy's, Kentucky's and Purdue's, their lives will be easier. Perhaps Purdue also has to think in this way.

[Coach Nowlin]

I believe that is exactly what Coach Brohm did.   

Then there was Coach Walters ......and his sub 40 year of age entire staff who torpedo all the good vibes and names of Purdue Football that Brohm QUICKLY built by giving opportunities right away to 3.5 star Rondale Moore and then 4 star guys in Bell and Karlaftis, Brohm was very good talent evaluated and developer with his staff.   

Walters brought in an OC who was and still is poor at that particular position at the high end jobs he has had, brought in a QB that was a Texas reject who never actually looked like a high level QB for a P4 conference team, perhaps again coaching on that front.....

Purdue did what IU did to certain extent when they flipped the roster in year 1 of Brohm and developed Freshman into All American's and NFL Draft picks

 

[Irishman]

Interesting list of names. 

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/purdue/2024/12/03/purdue-football-coaching-candidates-hot-board-rumors-buzz-jeff-monken-tyson-helton-chuck-martin/76738373007/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1KdRKH7PYD6qgZCgLGmmlw7kkVPRVqmUthGG8wb3IFvg22wp8iSw5rwkA_aem_HXcM7vBvHFL2jqffndiScQ 

[Coach Nowlin]

UTSA coach was contacted based on my local mole in San Antonio who coaches with a guy who is connected to HC of UTSA 

Leopold has like an 8. million dollar buy out, that probably eliminates him 

I think I am rooting for TULANE guy.   I could see Helton as well 

 

[Boilernation]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

UTSA coach was contacted based on my local mole in San Antonio who coaches with a guy who is connected to HC of UTSA 

Leopold has like an 8. million dollar buy out, that probably eliminates him 

I think I am rooting for TULANE guy.   I could see Helton as well 

 

Sumrall and Helton are both Southern boys with no background of coaching in the Midwest. I like both of them, but I would be shocked if they actually took the job.

 

[PHJIrish]

Since we're throwin' around of names for the next Boilermaker's coach, how about Urban Meyer.  He's about due to get the coaching itch again and maybe he'd like to build a program from scratch.  Just a thought.

[PHJIrish]

Jaron Tibbs has entered the transfer portal:

Purdue wide receiver Jaron Tibbs entering NCAA Transfer Portal - BoilerUpload: Purdue Boilermakers Football & Basketball Recruiting

[PHJIrish]

Jaron has received offers from Wake Forest, Minnesota, Georgia Tech and Louisville so far, among others.  He's also open to return to Purdue if he's comfortable with the new coaching regime.

[Coach Nowlin]

Brohm and Lville would be my guess if he does make the move, since he actually committed to BROHM CORP not anyone else 

 

[Coach Nowlin]

Q: What’s the situation with the NIL collective?

A: I don’t know. That’s one of the things I told Mike. I appreciate the heck out of Mike and love him for giving me this opportunity and really being somebody that I could confide in. One of the things I told him while I was walking out is what Purdue needs to be successful. Take the schedule. You ask the donors: “Who do you want us to beat?” You gotta tell them exactly what’s in those opponents’ collectives and say: “If you want us to beat those guys, we’ve got to beat them in every arena.”

I know sometimes Purdue kind of wants to do it the Purdue way, which I completely agree with, which is blue collar, sort of the underdog story. But when you’re talking about professional sports, and this is professional sports, you’re not asking the Oakland A’s to go beat the New York Yankees. And so you gotta at least get close to what other people are playing with.

[Footballking16]

On 12/4/2024 at 11:02 AM, Boilernation said:

Sumrall and Helton are both Southern boys with no background of coaching in the Midwest. I like both of them, but I would be shocked if they actually took the job.

 

Really? From everything I've heard Helton appears to be the front runner

[Coach Nowlin]

Seems as if Jeff Monken has created the most buzz from the paid GBI site 

[Bash Riprock]

9 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Seems as if Jeff Monken has created the most buzz from the paid GBI site 

Nothing personal to the Purdue community...sure hope Monken doesn't leave Army.  That man is a perfect fit at the USMA and has done an incredible job as their head football coach.