Footballking16 Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 Anyone have the rationale there for kicking a FG there to make a 2 TD game a 2 TD game? Even if ND makes it to cut the lead to 13, I saw nothing from ND's defense (or offense) up until that point which would have given me confidence that ND was going to a) stop OSU twice and b) lead two sustained TD drives at the juncture of the game. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 10 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Anyone have the rationale there for kicking a FG there to make a 2 TD game a 2 TD game? Even if ND makes it to cut the lead to 13, I saw nothing from ND's defense (or offense) up until that point which would have given me confidence that ND was going to a) stop OSU twice and b) lead two sustained TD drives at the juncture of the game. a true mis step from Freeman there, tough to get the ball in air against OSU but still way better chance to score a TD there then to make it 13 and still have little time to get stops and 2 possesions and 2 touchdowns. Quote
Footballking16 Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 23 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: a true mis step from Freeman there, tough to get the ball in air against OSU but still way better chance to score a TD there then to make it 13 and still have little time to get stops and 2 possesions and 2 touchdowns. And to be fair ND did get a stop and then ended up scoring, but imagine had that 2 pt conversion been for the tie rather than to cut the lead to 8. 1 Quote
Sparty Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 44 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Anyone have the rationale there for kicking a FG there to make a 2 TD game a 2 TD game? Even if ND makes it to cut the lead to 13, I saw nothing from ND's defense (or offense) up until that point which would have given me confidence that ND was going to a) stop OSU twice and b) lead two sustained TD drives at the juncture of the game. I’m sure it’s AnAlYtIcS 9 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: And to be fair ND did get a stop and then ended up scoring, but imagine had that 2 pt conversion been for the tie rather than to cut the lead to 8. As I said, AnAlYtIcS Quote
Footballking16 Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 11 minutes ago, Sparty said: I’m sure it’s AnAlYtIcS I'd love to see the numbers on that because even then I'm not sure it adds up, let alone once you take into account the common sense factor. Quote
Sparty Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 6 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: I'd love to see the numbers on that because even then I'm not sure it adds up, let alone once you take into account the common sense factor. Thank you. Quote
Bobref Posted January 21, 2025 Author Posted January 21, 2025 13 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: way too many NFL guys accross the 53 yards from ND sideline That’s 53 1/3 yds. 😂🤣😆 1 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 from the man himself https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/notre-dame-coach-marcus-freeman-defends-controversial-fourth-quarter-fg-decision-in-cfp-loss-to-ohio-state/#:~:text=So%2C if it was a,didn't make it."&text=Freeman's logic is sound when,defense has been this year. "Instead of being down 16, let's try to go down 13," Freeman said. "I know it's still a two-score game, but you have better -- a better probability of 14 points [sic] than you do 16 points. So, if it was a shorter fourth-and-goal situation, I probably would have gone for it but I just felt fourth-and-9 was not a great chance for us to make and I decided to kick it and we didn't make it." 1 minute ago, Bobref said: That’s 53 1/3 yds. 😂🤣😆 Ive been known to round down 2 1 Quote
Irishman Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 18 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Ive been known to round down That's what she said 🤣 Quote
PDB26 Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 3 hours ago, Footballking16 said: Anyone have the rationale there for kicking a FG there to make a 2 TD game a 2 TD game? Even if ND makes it to cut the lead to 13, I saw nothing from ND's defense (or offense) up until that point which would have given me confidence that ND was going to a) stop OSU twice and b) lead two sustained TD drives at the juncture of the game. I can understand the decision. To me it’s a pick ‘em. Ohio State’s ability to zone it up and match zone inside the 10 is just a huge problem for this ND offense at 4th and 9 from the nine. QB run is out at that point, and ND had just had three unsuccessful passing attempts in four plays. ND had its first real successes on long conversions on that drive so it’s frustrating, but they were able to stretch the field in a way that’s not possible inside the ten. We all saw what Ohio State did to Texas in the same situation in the Cotton Bowl. The odds are against you either way, but scoring on 4th and 9 and getting three two point conversions in one game against this defense is just about as far out there as getting two more possessions in the first place. 1 Quote
temptation Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 15 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: I told some other friends when they asked, I said 31-17 myself OSU, was not thrilled with the 2 pt conversion FINANCIALLY SPEAKING, but the gutsy fade to their DUDE who SHOULD be a top 10 pick THIS YEAR, a top 5 pick NEXT year and could very well be the #1 pick when he FINALLY gets to go to the NFL , he made the play and Howard delivered, however, the excitment I displayed FINACIALLY SPEAKING ONLY on that play not only got me into -8.5 range again, but also got over the HOWARD passing yards of 225, flannel man in beard at Station 21 was NOT a happy camper at me, to which I say, SORRY BOUT YA !!!! Tremendous game plan early, but hard to go athlete on athlete with OSU with the passing game limitations Leonard on ND offense has. Kudos to the year they had, grinded out many games, power run game, great coaching, players who are easy to root for (Kiser, Bowen, Leanard, Love etc) way too many NFL guys accross the 53 yards from ND sideline How'd Michigan do it? Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 18 minutes ago, temptation said: How'd Michigan do it? Rivals Changes things as anyone should agree one could say OSU played better becasue of that loss to Michigan, tighened things up if you will. Perhaps Michigan had a better and healthier Offensive line to be able to be successful where ND was lacking in that department. Only my guesses, did not watch the entire game of OSU/Michigan Quote
temptation Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 21 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Rivals Changes things as anyone should agree one could say OSU played better becasue of that loss to Michigan, tighened things up if you will. Perhaps Michigan had a better and healthier Offensive line to be able to be successful where ND was lacking in that department. Only my guesses, did not watch the entire game of OSU/Michigan Wait, so the Michigan/OSU rivalry brings out things that the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game doesn’t? 1 Quote
RingLeader Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 (edited) Heck of a run, heck of a run. Work hard, buy in, good things can happen. Edited January 21, 2025 by RingLeader 3 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 1 hour ago, temptation said: Wait, so the Michigan/OSU rivalry brings out things that the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP game doesn’t? Hatred yes the Emotion of learned hatred that is not necessarily involved when 2 teams meet in a National Title game. Doesn't mean I feel like OSU players would rather beat Michigan vs winning A Natty. Quote
temptation Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 7 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Hatred yes the Emotion of learned hatred that is not necessarily involved when 2 teams meet in a National Title game. Doesn't mean I feel like OSU players would rather beat Michigan vs winning A Natty. Simply put: Ryan Day loses his mind for 3+ hours every time he plays Michigan. Hope he stays. Quote
RingLeader Posted January 23, 2025 Posted January 23, 2025 AP ALL CFP FIRST TEAM QB Will Howard OSU RB TreVeyon Henderson OSU RB Quinshon Judkins OSU WR Matthew Golden Texas WR Jaden Greathouse ND WR Jeremiah Smith OSU TE Tyler Warren PSU AP Cam Skattebo ASU OL Kelvin Banks Texas OL Karson Hinzman OSU OL Donovan Jackson OSU OL Nolan Rucci PSU OL Amil Wagner ND DL Abdul Carter PSU DL Dani Dennis-Sutton PSU DL Jack Sawyer OSU DL JT Tuimoloau OSU LB Drayk Bowen ND LB Jack Kiser ND LB Cody Simon OSU LB Sonny Styles OSU DB Jahdae Barron Texas DB Caleb Downs OSU DB Leonard Moore ND DB Xavier Watts ND DB Zakee Wheatley PSU K Mitch Jeter ND P James Rendell ND KR Jayden Harrison ND 1 Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 23, 2025 Posted January 23, 2025 Pretty good Irish representation on both sides of the ball. BTW, I received good news from my cardiologist today. It seems some tests I've had to endure have paid off and I'm relatively heart healthy for a person of my age. I guess God isn't ready for me yet. 9 Quote
Sparty Posted January 23, 2025 Posted January 23, 2025 7 hours ago, PHJIrish said: Pretty good Irish representation on both sides of the ball. BTW, I received good news from my cardiologist today. It seems some tests I've had to endure have paid off and I'm relatively heart healthy for a person of my age. I guess God isn't ready for me yet. Congrats. Keep living that good life young man. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 4, 2025 Posted February 4, 2025 14 hours ago, RingLeader said: Awesome to see Indiana boys having such an impact on the big stage!! 2 Quote
RingLeader Posted April 27, 2025 Posted April 27, 2025 (edited) Great year capped off by solid draft for Irish RD 2 Ben Morrison - Buccaneers RD 3 Xavier Watts - Falcons RD 4 Jack Kiser - Jaguars RD 5 Rylie Mills - Seahawks RD 5 Mitchell Evans - Panthers RD 6 Riley Leonard - Colts Jordan Clark UDFA Jets Howard Cross UDFA Bengals Beau Collins UDFA Giants Edited April 27, 2025 by RingLeader Quote
Sparty Posted April 27, 2025 Posted April 27, 2025 Urhlacher to USC. LA has more money than the Vatican apparently. Quote
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