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Interesting tidbit. I did not know he was not residing in the Spencer/Owen County area. That would have been a tough daily commute.

Showing my age, but I played youth football in the era of the "Ickey Shuffle." When I scored my first TD, guess what I did? The referee's flag after I spiked the ball and then the reprimand from the coach quickly got my attention. So my career stats include 1 (and only 1) Ickey Shuffle celebration. My irritation with the clip isn't with the 3rd graders. They are just imitating what they have seen on TV/YouTube/TikTok. It does bother me that a coach and parents allow such behavior.

Mythical championships must carry a lot of weight.

Your explanation made sense to me. But here are some examples as well. 4 year rolling cycle would mean the IHSAA would look at success in 2019-2022 when determining which class a team should be slotted for the 2023 tournament. Evansville Mater Dei: Sectional (19), Regional (20), Semi (21), State (22) = 10 points If you looked at 21 & 22, Mater Dei should be up in 3A next fall. But SF only includes 2022 success and will be re-evaluated AFTER the 2023 season. A 4 year look would probably say EMD should be bumped up. Indianapolis Roncalli: Sectional (19), State (20), Sectional (21), Regional (22) = 8 points East Central: Sectional Loss (19), Sectional Loss (20), Sectional (21), State (22) = 5 points East Central will get bumped to 5A if they win regional in 2023. Under a 4 year roll, Roncalli would have more sustained success, especially if they replace the 2019 Sectional point with 2, 3, or 4 in 2023. But Roncalli will get bumped up ONLY if they win state in 2023.

That is just too logical and makes too much sense. If I designed the system, it would be exactly that.

I would be curious what ‘hard caps’ would look like. But I also know that it would only work with some sort of qualifier - I.e. you can’t have a class of 75 schools fill out a 64 team bracket. For example: 1A < 350 2A 351 - 550 3A 551 - 800 4A 801 - 1250 5A 1251 - 2000 6A 2000+ Really, though if they just figured out a way to get more than 32 teams in 5A, I think that would even out 2,3, and 4 better from a competitive standpoint

Regarding the last play, the tackler had the ball carrier in his grasp and they were in the process of going to the ground. This was the second defender coming in on the play and as @Irishman pointed out there were multiple indicators of targeting. I saw it as targeting live during the play but figured there was no way they would call it given the time/score. (Watch any Hail Mary attempt for OPI/DPI as examples of not calling a penalty due to time/score.) Then when they reviewed the hit, I assumed they would have to call it since it was so obvious, IMO. As far as the TD, I do not see any clear/obvious evidence to overturn the call on the field. Bad decision - which became magnified with Michigan's worse decision to attempt a handoff to a converted defensive player. And don't even get me started on trick plays on the goal line.

1. Probably focused on beating Cleveland and didn't look ahead 2. Very hard 3. No

Thanks. I figured there was some reason like that but was just curious. I was trying to sketch out the 3A sectionals and they are in 32. Had a heck of a drive to Heritage Hills last year for round 1. Evv Mater Dei could win regional next year and be success factored up to 3A which would cause reshuffling of the southern sectionals as well.

Someone have any inside information on Madison Consolidated? (SE corner of the state.) 2019- 2020 they were 867 (4A) with over 200 students in each grade. https://ihsaapublic.blob.core.windows.net/portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Enrollments & Classifications/Enrollments 19202021.pdf They lost 130 students in enrollment and dropped to 3A with 737. https://www.ihsaa.org/sites/default/files/documents/2022-23 2023-24 Football Alignment.pdf The numbers above show them at 847. I’m sure there’s a logical reason, I just am wondering what causes 20-30 students in each grade to disappear/reappear in the counts.

Hard to tell rumor from fact on conference realignment. Is Tecumseh joining the small PAC for fall 2023? Is Southridge moving to the Big division? I have heard both but I don't know if either is true. I thought MV could make some noise, as most thought their JR group last year - seniors in fall 23 - were their deepest class. The coaching change is always a big question mark though. I think BV graduates most of its skill talent. I agree a two team race GS-HH for the title. Small division? SR should take it, IMO. I don't have much of an opinion on anyone else, other than not even Knute Rockne could win at PC as they try out their 5th coach in 8 years.

Is it still half-distance inside 30?

I had an "I agree" that I deleted before posting. I agree with NCAA yardage enforcement as you mentioned. I think the down should be replayed and a first only if yardage dictates. But I don't get to write the rules LOL.

HS football is filled with double tight, wing T, wishbone teams who throw the ball once every quarter. DPI on their 5 yd TE dump pass shouldn’t give them 15 yards. Is the extra 15 yards for intentional DPI (making it a 30 yard penalty) still in the rule book? Have you ever seen it enforced?

I think it will be Bowen. Here are some stats: 1. 220/336 (65.6% completion) - 2,911 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTs. State runner-up, state champ Jr/ Sr year 2. 247/386 (64% completion) - 3,868 yards, 51 TDs, 7 INTs. State champ, State Runner-up Jr/Sr year If Michael Lindauer (stat line #2) didn't win Mr. Football, Wunderlich (#1) probably won't either. And if it wasn't for some Karlaftis guy currently running around KC, Lindauer would have been 2 time state champ.

I agree. 12 games in 13 weeks, culminating with a conference championship for some. I think it would be a 5 week playoff, but the point still holds that USC in that bracket could play 18 games in 19 weeks. Oh. And the players could occasionally go to class and take a final exam sometime during that playoff as well.

Move-in To me, the term transfer at the HS level implies that a player switches schools without a change of address. Charlie Spegal comes to mind. He moved into New Pal.

It appears the TD call was the game winning score. At least from the news sources I have been able to find. Egads. https://www.si.com/.amp/high-school/2022/12/10/controversial-touchdown-call-georgia-high-school-3a-state-championship-video

What’s the phrase @Bobref? It appears the official sees the blocking back fall into the end zone and doesn’t see the wildcat QB tackled at the one.

Congrats to all the players and coaches named! Evansville really does have great HS sports coverage. The C&P and local news stations do a good job. That's something I took for granted until you are outside the tristate and trying to find something. It's just not the same level of information.

TigerFan20: The All-Metro team beats this team by 2-3 touchdowns. DumfriesYMCA: There goes SIAC fans overstating the talent differential. ThorntonMelon: ermhs gets no respect. They should have had players on the SW Indiana team too. Titan32: How many of the players on the SW Indiana team did EM/MD try to recruit? Jets: Congratulations to Coach Buening. He teaches 87 classes each day too. That's what Southridge coaches do. [Just trying to save a few pages. 🙂 ]

1.5 times as many rushing yards? 50% more? That's not inconsequential, IMO.

I always thought Top 50 was senior only as well, but I obviously was mistaken. Two names I thought for sure would be on there were Tayvion Ortman (New Prairie - LB) and Josh Ringer (RB - East Central). However there always seems to be a 6A bias when it comes to awards. 6A has 28/50 Top 50 players - despite having only 32 teams. For me, Hansen should be RB Mr. Football. I honestly didn't even think there would be a question. But then I remembered the 6A thing. I would favor Bowen over Hansen for overall.

I find it funny that not even the IFCA can spell Boonville correctly. #NoRespect

You know they are identical to last year, except home/away are flipped, right?