crimsonace1 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Class 6A W-L Pts. Prev. Brownsburg (16) 6-0 168 2 Warren Central 6-0 138 3 (tie) Crown Point (1) 6-0 129 4 (tie) Westfield 5-1 129 1 Center Grove 5-1 101 5 Lawrence North 6-0 90 6 Cathedral 3-2 59 7 Hamilton Southeastern 4-2 47 8 Columbus North 5-1 33 9 Elkhart 5-1 21 10 Dropped out: None. Others receiving votes: Fishers 13. Carroll (Fort Wayne) 5. Penn 4. Avon 1. Class 5A W-L Pts. Prev. (tie) Concord (9) 6-0 157 4 (tie) Merrillville (7) 5-1 157 3 Lafayette Jeff 6-0 126 5 Plainfield (1) 5-1 98 1 Decatur Central 3-2 94 8 Bloomington North 5-1 78 7 Valparaiso 4-2 75 2 East Central 4-2 56 10 Castle 5-1 44 NR Whiteland 3-2 37 6 Dropped out: Warsaw (9). Others receiving votes: Bloomington South 7. Chesterton 6. Warsaw 2. Class 4A W-L Pts. Prev. New Palestine (17) 5-0 170 1 Martinsville 6-0 149 3 Bishop Chatard 5-1 137 4 Mishawaka 5-1 110 6 Evansville Reitz 5-1 84 2 Columbia City 6-0 76 8 East Noble 5-1 56 9 Greenfield-Central 5-1 43 5 Leo 5-1 32 10 Northview 6-0 25 NR Dropped out: Brebeuf Jesuit (7) Others receiving votes: Roncalli 22. Brebeuf Jesuit 21. New Prairie 3. Logansport 1. Plymouth 1. Class 3A W-L Pts. Prev. Ev. Memorial (16) 6-0 169 1 Heritage Hills (1) 5-1 148 2 Mississinewa 6-0 134 4 Lawrenceburg 5-1 103 7 Garrett 6-0 79 10 Gibson Southern 4-2 77 3 Evansville Mater Dei 5-1 57 9 FW Bishop Luers 5-1 47 NR Guerin Catholic 3-3 23 8 Maconaquah 6-0 21 NR Dropped out: West Noble (5), Batesville (6). Others receiving votes: West Noble 20. Batesville 18. West Lafayette 14. Cascade 5. Jimtown 4. Northwestern 4. Griffith 2. Knox 2. Heritage 1. Class 2A W-L Pts. Prev. Laf. Central Cath. (11) 5-0 160 1 Brownstown Central (6) 6-0 153 2 Lutheran 5-1 127 3 Western Boone 6-0 112 4 North Posey 5-1 91 5 Bluffton 6-0 68 6 Triton Central 4-2 48 7 Heritage Christian 5-1 43 8 Linton-Stockton 4-2 27 9 (tie)Adams Central 5-1 25 NR Monrovia 5-1 25 NR Dropped out: North Putnam (10). Others receiving votes: Paoli 20. Northeastern 17. South Vermillion 7. Andrean 3. Rochester 3. North Putnam 2. Class A W-L Pts. Prev. North Judson (17) 6-0 170 1 Providence 5-0 149 2 Carroll (Flora) 6-0 129 3 Madison-Grant 6-0 115 4 North Decatur 5-1 107 5 Springs Valley 5-1 75 7 South Putnam 4-2 59 8 Monroe Central 5-1 41 9 Pioneer 5-1 39 10 Triton 4-2 19 6 Dropped out: None. Others receiving votes: Milan 9. Knightstown 8. North Vermillion 3. Frontier 1. North Miami 1. Quote
temptation Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 If only Plainfield and DC had played… 1 Quote
crimsonace1 Posted October 2, 2024 Author Posted October 2, 2024 2 hours ago, temptation said: If only Plainfield and DC had played… DC's two losses (would likely have been three had they finished the game with New Pal, who played horrid for a half and was still tied) still affect their ranking, although now that CN & Martinsville are ranked, they shouldn't as much. I had DC ahead of Plainfield on my ballot. Quote
crimsonace1 Posted October 2, 2024 Author Posted October 2, 2024 12 minutes ago, BTF said: Elkhart to high. Mishawaka to low. There are only 32 6A schools, so a 5-1 team is probably going to be in the mix for the Top 10. In terms of 4A, New Pal & Martinsville are a pretty clear 1/2 right now, with both being unbeaten with some good wins. You can pretty much flip a coin between Chatard & Mishawaka at 3/4. Both have some good wins and their one loss is to an excellent team in a higher class. I had Mishawaka 3 and Chatard 4, but they're very close. 1 Quote
temptation Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 4 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said: There are only 32 6A schools, so a 5-1 team is probably going to be in the mix for the Top 10. In terms of 4A, New Pal & Martinsville are a pretty clear 1/2 right now, with both being unbeaten with some good wins. You can pretty much flip a coin between Chatard & Mishawaka at 3/4. Both have some good wins and their one loss is to an excellent team in a higher class. I had Mishawaka 3 and Chatard 4, but they're very close. Where do you have New Pal state wide in a non-classed poll? I ask because you are the only other poster on here that seems as high on New Pal as me. Quote
crimsonace1 Posted October 2, 2024 Author Posted October 2, 2024 15 minutes ago, temptation said: Where do you have New Pal state wide in a non-classed poll? I ask because you are the only other poster on here that seems as high on New Pal as me. Probably somewhere between 7-10. Sagarin has them at #2, which is a bit high, but they are really good. The top 6 in 6A would be a pretty clear 1-6, then there's a tier of Cathedral/HSE/New Pal/Concord/Merrillville/Decatur Central/Martinsville. 1 Quote
BTF Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 1 hour ago, crimsonace1 said: In terms of 4A, New Pal & Martinsville are a pretty clear 1/2 right now Pretty clear to who? Someone who follows New Pal? 1. Mishawaka 2. Chatard 3. New Pal 4. Martinsville Quote
BTF Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 47 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said: Probably somewhere between 7-10. Sagarin has them at #2, which is a bit high, but they are really good. The top 6 in 6A would be a pretty clear 1-6, then there's a tier of Cathedral/HSE/New Pal/Concord/Merrillville/Decatur Central/Martinsville. Please, stop this charade. New Pal would be lucky to break 6A's Top 15. Quote
Whiting89 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Wow region football has really fallen on hard times Quote
Tippy Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Is there anyone on here who doesn't think North Judson is going to win it all in 1A? Quote
kdets89 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 11 hours ago, Tippy said: Is there anyone on here who doesn't think North Judson is going to win it all in 1A? They're the unanimous #1 in 1A on the GID poll, but I think they'll be challenged by the south rep (Providence/South Putnam). It won't be a cakewalk. Quote
WWFan Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 16 minutes ago, kdets89 said: They're the unanimous #1 in 1A on the GID poll, but I think they'll be challenged by the south rep (Providence/South Putnam). It won't be a cakewalk. Sectional 48 is turning into a meat grinder. 4 schools in top 11 of sarg, but that isn't counting Providence 2 out of state games. I've watch Providence couple times and they aren't as good as last year. Offense struggles at times. Think this week against Milan will be a telling story if they are ready for a state run Quote
crimsonace1 Posted October 3, 2024 Author Posted October 3, 2024 22 hours ago, BTF said: Pretty clear to who? Someone who follows New Pal? 1. Mishawaka 2. Chatard 3. New Pal 4. Martinsville New Pal & Martinsville are undefeated. Both have good wins. Yeah, they're a clear 1/2. Sagarin agrees. Quote
BTF Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 1 hour ago, crimsonace1 said: New Pal & Martinsville are undefeated. Both have good wins. Yeah, they're a clear 1/2. Sagarin agrees. Please don't bring Sagarin into the rankings, way too many flaws. I'd lay down a pretty good bet that New Pal doesn't beat Mishawaka. Quote
LC_Bears_04 Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 Elkhart being ranked ahead of Fishers and Carroll is ridiculous and Plainfield being ranked ahead of Decatur Central after Decatur beat them by 21 points is ridiculous. 2 Quote
Rodney Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, BTF said: Please don't bring Sagarin into the rankings, way too many flaws. I'd lay down a pretty good bet that New Pal doesn't beat Mishawaka. 2 beers, I get new pal Also saying they wouldn't make the top 15 in 6a is preposterous Edited October 4, 2024 by Rodney Quote
Rodney Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 for reference I would pick any of the top 4 of either 4a or 5a to absolutely molly whop the #15 6a team. Quote
BTF Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 4 hours ago, Rodney said: 2 beers, I get new pal Also saying they wouldn't make the top 15 in 6a is preposterous You're right, with so many impressive wins over 4A schools, who wouldn't put them in 6A's Top 15. Quote
BTF Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 4 hours ago, Rodney said: for reference I would pick any of the top 4 of either 4a or 5a to absolutely molly whop the #15 6a team. You guys are putting way too much stock into Sagarin. You're basically saying that eight teams from 4A and 5A belong in the 6A Top 15. I'd argue that maybe two deserve such credit, Mishawaka and Chatard. And I stress "maybe." Quote
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 On 10/2/2024 at 12:47 PM, BTF said: Elkhart to high. Mishawaka to low. So, if Penn beats Elkhart, lets say by 14, that proves our stance Elkhart is overrated. If Penn wins in a one score game less than 5 lets say, are the still overrated? If Elkhart beats Penn by 14 do they get a boost and a see they are for real, or do they get the well you beat a highly overrated (over expectations) Penn team. Idk. I think either way both Penn and Elkhart should not be considered for a top 10 spot. maybe keep them somewhere in the 11-15 slot. I did have a person who is close to the Elkhart program tell me yesterday that he thinks Penn will win by multiple scores. Quote
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 On 10/2/2024 at 1:04 PM, crimsonace1 said: There are only 32 6A schools, so a 5-1 team is probably going to be in the mix for the Top 10. In terms of 4A, New Pal & Martinsville are a pretty clear 1/2 right now, with both being unbeaten with some good wins. You can pretty much flip a coin between Chatard & Mishawaka at 3/4. Both have some good wins and their one loss is to an excellent team in a higher class. I had Mishawaka 3 and Chatard 4, but they're very close. Chatard (Columbus North 5-1) and Mishawaka (Penn 5-1...over inflated record due to a poor schedule) both beat 6A teams... Mishawaka was also 14 points down and came back with 2 mins to go against #1 (5A) Concord and lost on a failed 2pt conversion. I would say Mishawaka right now is possibly the best overall showing when it comes to record and schedule. I know the Penn game is not as nice of a win now, but nonetheless they beat a larger school who is traditionally a much better program then they are, and beat them soundly. Chatard got mashed by Cathedral but I don't think that game should reflect negatively. They are a 2A/3A school playing with some of the biggest and best programs in our State. I think, like Temp does, we should reward winning games, but we cannot just overlook the fact that two teams have better wins. wouldn't say it is clear in 4A, I think that 1-4 is tighter than you might think. Could any of those teams win a state title in 4A, I do think that. Quote
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 7 hours ago, Rodney said: for reference I would pick any of the top 4 of either 4a or 5a to absolutely molly whop the #15 6a team. Who do you have as the #15 team...because if it is Penn, then that has already been accomplished. lol I will curb that statement and say I think the Penn game would be significantly different if it were to be played on week 9 rather than week 2. With that being said, Mishawaka took care of business when the game was played, and my hat tips to them. I hope they go on to win state in 4A. Quote
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