Warren Central Open.. Kirschner resigns

[Sparty]

30 minutes ago, foxbat said:

Does provide the advantage of being in the hallways throughout the day and feeling the pulse daily.  Sometimes can find some gems walking the halls that don't initially show up for the first seasonal practices.

IMHO, if you aren’t involved during the hell of the offseason, you aren’t on the team.  Period. 

[Irishman]

5 hours ago, BTF said:

I'm 90% certain. Maybe the rule changed or maybe I never fully understood it in the first place. I'll defer to an educator in the Allen County area. @Irishman

I am not sure how FWCS does things, but EACS wants teachers as head coaches in football. We have had a lay coach for basketball for about 10 years. The current/new coach is a teacher. EACS also does not allow administrators to coach, although one was grandfathered in. Are the coaches at North Side and Northrop teachers? Or do they at least work in the buildings? 

[Coach Nowlin]

3 hours ago, Sparty said:

IMHO, if you aren’t involved during the hell of the offseason, you aren’t on the team.  Period. 

Football is a non cut sport 

Off season workouts are not mandatory, HOWEVER, proccess of elimination happens when you as an athlete choose to not participate in off season workouts (if not in a winter/spring sport) , others will pass you right on by 

[BTF]

2 hours ago, Irishman said:

I am not sure how FWCS does things, but EACS wants teachers as head coaches in football. We have had a lay coach for basketball for about 10 years. The current/new coach is a teacher. EACS also does not allow administrators to coach, although one was grandfathered in. Are the coaches at North Side and Northrop teachers? Or do they at least work in the buildings? 

I was hoping you would have a better answer than me since you're in education. I tend to keep up on current events around the city, so I feel that I've read somewhere that FWCS's requires head coaches to be teachers at the school. I could be wrong. 

[Sparty]

46 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Football is a non cut sport 

Off season workouts are not mandatory, HOWEVER, proccess of elimination happens when you as an athlete choose to not participate in off season workouts (if not in a winter/spring sport) , others will pass you right on by 

Aware, but not gonna be on my team.  Ways to get rid of them very easily.  Don’t care how good they are.  

[Impartial_Observer]

14 hours ago, Lucy Draper said:

That's my bad. I was looking at football. I didn't realize he coached basketball. Thanks for the help!

You serious Clark?

[BDGiant93]

On 1/8/2025 at 8:19 PM, Sparty said:

I love the rule.  I think it’s awful that outsiders that are not in the school everyday teaching/admin, can be head coaches.  JMHO

What about retired teachers who stay on as coaches? Stan Benge is an example here at Ben Davis. Stan has never been "in the building" because he taught elementary PE.

Edited January 10, 2025 by BDGiant93

[Sparty]

31 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

What about retired teachers who stay on as coaches? Stan Benge is an example here at Ben Davis. Stan has never been "in the building" because he taught elementary PE.

He was a teacher in the district.  

[Coach Nowlin]

14 hours ago, Sparty said:

Aware, but not gonna be on my team.  Ways to get rid of them very easily.  Don’t care how good they are.  

love to hear more on this, how? 

[Sparty]

9 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

love to hear more on this, how? 

Not there during he’ll, not running with us when it matters.  Programs are better than teams

[Impartial_Observer]

2 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

What about retired teachers who stay on as coaches? Stan Benge is an example here at Ben Davis. Stan has never been "in the building" because he taught elementary PE.

Don’t quote me on this, but I believe a HC in VB, MBB, WBB, or FB had to be a teacher within the system. I don’t believe it’s all that uncommon for HC’s to not be in the building. Bill Green at Marion (basketball) after after he retired, came back to coach and the rule was amended to having a teaching license. Which was later amended with the Damon Bailey rule. 

[Coach Nowlin]

27 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Not there during he’ll, not running with us when it matters.  Programs are better than teams

Why I undertand that, said player will get no time on said field, but the messaging seem to suggest you would literally have that player not be present at all.   So you are saying that the player will still be part of your team, just not playing any snaps in a game.   More than fair for any coach to do that if that is there perogrative.    Seemed as if you were saying there was ways to physcially remove the player from the team with out telling him he is cut.   

[gonzoron]

On 1/9/2025 at 11:17 AM, BTF said:

Put him on ignore like I did. I'll keep a chart, see how high we can get this number. Or should I take him off as I'm missing out on a massive amount of entertainment?

Goals can be accomplished in a myriad of ways. 
I thank you and I’m certain the GID appreciates you!

[Firsttimeformerdad]

4 hours ago, Sparty said:

He was a teacher in the district.  

Bud Wright was a lay coach for the last 20 years. Not a teacher or Admin.

[Sparty]

12 minutes ago, Firsttimeformerdad said:

Bud Wright was a lay coach for the last 20 years. Not a teacher or Admin.

And?

[Sparty]

2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Why I undertand that, said player will get no time on said field, but the messaging seem to suggest you would literally have that player not be present at all.   So you are saying that the player will still be part of your team, just not playing any snaps in a game.   More than fair for any coach to do that if that is there perogrative.    Seemed as if you were saying there was ways to physcially remove the player from the team with out telling him he is cut.   

Nope. Not see a single snap/play/rotation/whatever. In practice or game. 

[Firsttimeformerdad]

1 hour ago, Sparty said:

And?

I think my comment is pretty self-explanatory, but if you need further explanation.........

Sheridan may not have had 4 State Championship appearances, 3 State Championships and 7 Semi-State appearances with a different head coach who "was in the building" during that 20 years.

[NEI_Homer]

22 hours ago, Irishman said:

I am not sure how FWCS does things, but EACS wants teachers as head coaches in football. We have had a lay coach for basketball for about 10 years. The current/new coach is a teacher. EACS also does not allow administrators to coach, although one was grandfathered in. Are the coaches at North Side and Northrop teachers? Or do they at least work in the buildings? 

North Sides coach is in the building as an administrative assistant, an hourly role. I believe South Side's HC is in a similar role there, not for certain on that one though. Northrop's is in the tech department for FWCS, so not technically in the school. FWCS used to have the same rule, that administrators can't be head coaches, but Northrops Head Girl's Basketball Coach is an assistant principal in the school, so not sure where that rule stands now. 

[Sparty]

2 hours ago, Firsttimeformerdad said:

I think my comment is pretty self-explanatory, but if you need further explanation.........

Sheridan may not have had 4 State Championship appearances, 3 State Championships and 7 Semi-State appearances with a different head coach who "was in the building" during that 20 years.

And I thought mine was too.  

2 hours ago, Firsttimeformerdad said:

I think my comment is pretty self-explanatory, but if you need further explanation.........

Sheridan may not have had 4 State Championship appearances, 3 State Championships and 7 Semi-State appearances with a different head coach who "was in the building" during that 20 years.

And how did that end up?  Not getting into the why or want to be negative, but he is now out. 

[Firsttimeformerdad]

48 minutes ago, Sparty said:

And I thought mine was too.

Your explanation that a coach was a teacher in the district? I understood that and did not ask for clarification. 

 

49 minutes ago, Sparty said:

And how did that end up?  Not getting into the why or want to be negative, but he is now out. 

It ended up with 3 State Championships for the school and numerous victories and accomplishments for the football team and their Hall of Fame Coach.

Otherwise, Sheridan may have ended up with a teacher just looking for some extra pay as a football coach.

 

[Bash Riprock]

Speaking of Warren…..

 

[BTF]

4 hours ago, NEI_Homer said:

North Sides coach is in the building as an administrative assistant, an hourly role. I believe South Side's HC is in a similar role there, not for certain on that one though. Northrop's is in the tech department for FWCS, so not technically in the school. FWCS used to have the same rule, that administrators can't be head coaches, but Northrops Head Girl's Basketball Coach is an assistant principal in the school, so not sure where that rule stands now. 

Lol, sounds like a mess to me. 

[Sparty]

2 hours ago, Firsttimeformerdad said:

Your explanation that a coach was a teacher in the district? I understood that and did not ask for clarification. 

 

It ended up with 3 State Championships for the school and numerous victories and accomplishments for the football team and their Hall of Fame Coach.

Otherwise, Sheridan may have ended up with a teacher just looking for some extra pay as a football coach.

 

Is Bud still the coach?

[Bash Riprock]

13 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Is Bud still the coach?

And?

[Firsttimeformerdad]

12 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Is Bud still the coach?

I believe he retired in December.

Does North Newton have a coach on faculty staff or is he a lay coach? Did you have a bad experience with a lay coach that contributed to your stance opposing them?