BTF Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 11 hours ago, Bobref said: A distinction without a difference. Has anyone ever really cared if Corso was biased? Of course he was, but it was all in good humor. IU stunk to high heaven, hard to take serious. This year was pretty much fun as well. Herbstreit has more of a serious side, so really not a good comparison. Quote
Bobref Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 15 minutes ago, BTF said: Has anyone ever really cared if Corso was biased? Of course he was, but it was all in good humor. IU stunk to high heaven, hard to take serious. This year was pretty much fun as well. Herbstreit has more of a serious side, so really not a good comparison. If you’re talking about “conflict of interest,” it’s an apt comparison. Quote
BTF Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 59 minutes ago, Bobref said: If you’re talking about “conflict of interest,” it’s an apt comparison. I'll give you that, I just don't think it's a "good" comparison. Presuming you can roll with "that." Quote
gonzoron Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 19 hours ago, BTF said: Herbstreit shouldn't be allowed to call Ohio State games. I almost muted the sound at one point, but I decided to turn the channel instead. I looked back later and watched OSU’s last 2 touchdowns. Quote
Irishman Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 Kinda thought the differences were obvious. Corso does not do color commentary on games. He is hardly even on the pregame show any more. People can choose to not watch the pregame shows, but if you choose to watch the games, you are stuck with Herbstreit. 4 Quote
Sparty Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 34 minutes ago, Irishman said: Kinda thought the differences were obvious. Corso does not do color commentary on games. He is hardly even on the pregame show any more. People can choose to not watch the pregame shows, but if you choose to watch the games, you are stuck with Herbstreit. Not so fast my friend, lol You can watch Pat and the Boys in some of these games. But I agree overall Quote
Irishman Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Sparty said: Not so fast my friend, lol You can watch Pat and the Boys in some of these games. But I agree overall Hoping they do the one channel like last year. The view was from behind the offense, no play by play but you could hear the PA announcer. Quote
BTF Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 7 hours ago, Irishman said: Kinda thought the differences were obvious. Corso does not do color commentary on games. I didn't think he did. Didn't want to bring it to the table since I wasn't positive. That's really the major difference. Again, I don't think anyone cares if Corso is bias, he does it with a sense of humor. Not Herbstreit. He was VERY upset the last time ND was in the four team playoff and made it clear that they weren't better than Ohio State. In my opinion, it was clearly a biased take. He tries to make it look like he's not giving an emotional analysis, but I've been watching him long enough to see right through him. He does it all the time. Even calling Notre Dame an irrelevent program after 2012. Hell, someone else the other day said Notre Dame wasn't relevent anymore even though you can't count more than six teams that have a better track record than the Irish over the past 12 years. That's just being hateful if you ask me. Quote
Sparty Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 Honest question, why does it matter if an announcer (Herbstreit) is biased calling this game between ND and OSU? Quote
BTF Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 24 minutes ago, Sparty said: Honest question, why does it matter if an announcer (Herbstreit) is biased calling this game between ND and OSU? That's really a serious question? Quote
Sparty Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, BTF said: That's really a serious question? Yes. I’m thinking, what advantage does that give them on the field? Quote
Irishman Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 Just now, Sparty said: Yes. I’m thinking, what advantage does that give them on the field? I don't believe anyone has claimed there is an on field advantage. That said, think about how everyone at that network was going on and on about Alabama getting in. Now think, ESPN's contract to show SEC games is a whopping $5 BILLION. That means they are paying the conference $300 Mill a year. Compare that to CBS who was paying just $55 Mill a year to the conference. I don't want to say it's a factor, but the message going into the playoff was VERY clear about who should get in. Bottom line is that bias is just annoying. The lovefest/man crush that Jim Nantz had with Tom Brady was f'ing annoying, as it is now with Mahomes. Herbstreit was bad throughout that semifinal game. If I want to get that bias, I will listen on the radio to the team's broadcast. 2 Quote
Sparty Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, Irishman said: I don't believe anyone has claimed there is an on field advantage. That said, think about how everyone at that network was going on and on about Alabama getting in. Now think, ESPN's contract to show SEC games is a whopping $5 BILLION. That means they are paying the conference $300 Mill a year. Compare that to CBS who was paying just $55 Mill a year to the conference. I don't want to say it's a factor, but the message going into the playoff was VERY clear about who should get in. Bottom line is that bias is just annoying. The lovefest/man crush that Jim Nantz had with Tom Brady was f'ing annoying, as it is now with Mahomes. Herbstreit was bad throughout that semifinal game. If I want to get that bias, I will listen on the radio to the team's broadcast. I get the annoying part and now that you point out the money/bias angle, that makes sense. I understood the annoying part. I was just thinking advantage some how. 1 Quote
BTF Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 18 minutes ago, Irishman said: Bottom line is that bias is just annoying. The lovefest/man crush that Jim Nantz had with Tom Brady was f'ing annoying, as it is now with Mahomes. Herbstreit was bad throughout that semifinal game. If I want to get that bias, I will listen on the radio to the team's broadcast. I actually wrote that and erased it. Didn't feel like diving in. Still perplexed as to why that question needs an answer, lol. Let's just say 90% of fans don't want to listen to a biased point of view and call it a day. 2 Quote
Sparty Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 20 minutes ago, BTF said: I actually wrote that and erased it. Didn't feel like diving in. Still perplexed as to why that question needs an answer, lol. Let's just say 90% of fans don't want to listen to a biased point of view and call it a day. Can mute it Quote
gonzoron Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Sparty said: Can mute it Aware Quote
BTF Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 11 hours ago, Sparty said: Can mute it Nah, I enjoy your posts. Just didn't really understand this one. I agree with @Irishman though. And I think 90% of America would agree. We shouldn't have to listen to a biased announcer, giving his take on a pass interference call, brainwash the rest of America on his point of view. In the end, does it really matter? No, games are won on the field. Outcomes will be remembered more than what some guy on television says. That being said, I do like Herbstreit. I don't like his bias toward Ohio State and never appreciated his bias against Notre Dame. I feel like he's gotten better on both accounts though. 1 1 Quote
Sparty Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 5 hours ago, BTF said: Nah, I enjoy your posts. Just didn't really understand this one. I agree with @Irishman though. And I think 90% of America would agree. We shouldn't have to listen to a biased announcer, giving his take on a pass interference call, brainwash the rest of America on his point of view. In the end, does it really matter? No, games are won on the field. Outcomes will be remembered more than what some guy on television says. That being said, I do like Herbstreit. I don't like his bias toward Ohio State and never appreciated his bias against Notre Dame. I feel like he's gotten better on both accounts though. Well thanks lol. I meant you can mute the game Herbstreit is calling. Quote
BTF Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 16 minutes ago, Sparty said: Well thanks lol. I meant you can mute the game Herbstreit is calling. Ahhh, yes. As mentioned earlier. Turn on the radio instead. It's okay, I enjoy listening to Herbstreit. Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 I have a 30 year old boombox and I mute games and listen to the radio commentary, which is usually about 30 seconds sooner than the TV. It works for me. Quote
BTF Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 11 minutes ago, PHJIrish said: I have a 30 year old boombox and I mute games and listen to the radio commentary, which is usually about 30 seconds sooner than the TV. It works for me. I should try that. I actually miss radio commentary. Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 14, 2025 Posted January 14, 2025 4 hours ago, BTF said: I should try that. I actually miss radio commentary. I don't know if that works with a digital radio, mine is an analog. I have to dust it off once in awhile. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 15, 2025 Posted January 15, 2025 More secondary depth for the Hoosiers..... https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-gets-commitment-from-nc-state-transfer-safety-devan-boykin/#google_vignette 1 Quote
temptation Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 18 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Good news!!! Big pickup. Was slated to visit Michigan tomorrow. Guess IU sold him. Quote
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