IHSAA One-Time Transfer Rule Bill To Be Filed At Indiana Legislative Session

[NeonDeion]

On 1/29/2025 at 11:45 AM, tango said:

Curious, who are the "turds" and who are the "honest folks" in your opinion? 

Ole boy may have not coached football (he may have and I am unaware), but any transfer rule has to be directly or indirectly tied to Troy Dulaney who ran was Yorktown's head wrestling coach. Real life Buddy Garrity, except Troy's name was listed as head coach and not booster. 

Edited February 3, 2025 by NeonDeion

[Football Guru 25]

I'm sure there are kids throughout the state that can't wait for this to be passed and officially released!!

[Robert]

On 1/14/2025 at 9:01 AM, Titan32 said:

Trust me…sending schools would often not sign off even with a bonified change in address.  There are administrators in this state who are pieces of (insert expletive) with regard to allowing kids to do what’s best for them and their family.

I've worked for some of those administrators.  People have a hard time believing this. 

[slicer28]

HB 1064 was passed out of the house education committee with a "DO PASS" recommendation to the full house this morning.

[Football Guru 25]

1 hour ago, slicer28 said:

HB 1064 was passed out of the house education committee with a "DO PASS" recommendation to the full house this morning.

Getting closer to opening the door to kids going where they know they can be successful and play for a coach they truly  want to !!!!

[slicer28]

4 hours ago, Football Guru 25 said:

Getting closer to opening the door to kids going where they know they can be successful and play for a coach they truly  want to !!!!

Again, this does not change IHSAA eligibility rules.  There's a long way to go for this bill. If it makes it to the governor's signature then the IHSAA would need to decide if they will change any of their eligibility rules.

[Sparty]

5 hours ago, Football Guru 25 said:

Getting closer to opening the door to kids going where they know they can be successful and play for a coach they truly  want to !!!!

How do you/they know they will be successful and play for a coach they truly want to?

Gonna be a gem when player transfers and the coach bolts for whatever reason.  

1 hour ago, slicer28 said:

Again, this does not change IHSAA eligibility rules.  There's a long way to go for this bill. If it makes it to the governor's signature then the IHSAA would need to decide if they will change any of their eligibility rules.

Do schools have to accept the transfer, thus creating open enrollment or can a school still choose not to accept out of district students?

[slicer28]

10 hours ago, Sparty said:

Do schools have to accept the transfer, thus creating open enrollment or can a school still choose not to accept out of district students?

My understanding (not a lawyer): Schools need to decide first if they are accepting any transfers into the district. Then, if this bill is passed, schools who are accepting transfers are not prohibited from accepting transfers who are transferring primarily for athletic reasons.  Current state law says schools cannot accept these transfers.  State law does not address eligibility rules. That is IHSAA's pervue. 

In my opinion, if this bill is signed into law it is essentially a warning shot to the IHSAA from the legislature that things need to change or the legislature may force a change in the future.  So... is there a chance the IHSAA makes a move this summer? Maybe... I'm not privy to any of that, but it's clear that there are forces among the legislature that want these policies to change.

Edited February 6, 2025 by slicer28

[Sparty]

7 minutes ago, slicer28 said:

My understanding (not a lawyer): Schools need to decide first if they are accepting any transfers into the district. Then, if this bill is passed, schools who are accepting transfers are not prohibited from accepting transfers who are transferring primarily for athletic reasons.  Current state law says schools cannot accept these transfers.  State law does not address eligibility rules. That is IHSAA's pervue. 

In my opinion, if this bill is signed into law it is essentially a warning shot to the IHSAA from the legislature that things need to change or the legislature may force a change in the future.  So... is there a chance the IHSAA makes a move this summer? Maybe... I'm not privy to any of that, but it's clear that there are forces among the legislature that want these policies to change.

Thank you.  

[btownqbcoach1]

19 hours ago, Football Guru 25 said:

I'm sure there are kids throughout the state that can't wait for this to be passed and officially released!!

yeah, the kids just always know what's best for them, good grief. 

Crazy decision by the state

[jets]

20 hours ago, slicer28 said:

HB 1064 was passed out of the house education committee with a "DO PASS" recommendation to the full house this morning.

 

 

2 hours ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

yeah, the kids just always know what's best for them, good grief. 

Crazy decision by the state

Republicans hate Public Education...not a hard thing to figure out. 

[Sparty]

18 minutes ago, jets said:

 

 

Republicans hate Public Education...not a hard thing to figure out. 

I’m a Republican and I don’t.  Just think things can be fixed and handled better is all.  

[tango]

1 hour ago, jets said:

Republicans hate Public Education...not a hard thing to figure out. 

And yet, despite the vast majority of the US being products of and current users of public schools, we keep putting Republicans in office.  

[Titan32]

21 minutes ago, tango said:

And yet, despite the vast majority of the US being products of and current users of public schools, we keep putting Republicans in office.  

People will always hold their noses and vote for who has the greatest odds of helping their pocketbook.....all other issues (including Education) are secondary.

[Sparty]

41 minutes ago, tango said:

And yet, despite the vast majority of the US being products of and current users of public schools, we keep putting Republicans in office.  

Better than the other option

19 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

People will always hold their noses and vote for who has the greatest odds of helping their pocketbook.....all other issues (including Education) are secondary.

Never held my nose the last 3 elections. 

[jets]

2 hours ago, Sparty said:

I’m a Republican and I don’t.  Just think things can be fixed and handled better is all.  

 

48 minutes ago, tango said:

And yet, despite the vast majority of the US being products of and current users of public schools, we keep putting Republicans in office.  

 

26 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

People will always hold their noses and vote for who has the greatest odds of helping their pocketbook.....all other issues (including Education) are secondary.

Not to turn this into a political forum - but I think most sound-minded individuals probably have right-leaning ideals/tendencies - but for the life of me, I don't understand the Republican's vitriol against public education. Been like that for decades upon decades. 

[Sparty]

46 minutes ago, jets said:

 

 

Not to turn this into a political forum - but I think most sound-minded individuals probably have right-leaning ideals/tendencies - but for the life of me, I don't understand the Republican's vitriol against public education. Been like that for decades upon decades. 

Trying to fix something that is woefully broken and abused.  

[tango]

7 hours ago, Titan32 said:

People will always hold their noses and vote for who has the greatest odds of helping their pocketbook.....all other issues (including Education) are secondary.

Not me brother... 

[jets]

18 hours ago, Sparty said:

Trying to fix something that is woefully broken and abused.  

Public Education is woefully broken and abused?? I guess that is where our discourse lies - because that has not been my experience and/or view. 

[btownqbcoach1]

22 hours ago, jets said:

 

 

Republicans hate Public Education...not a hard thing to figure out. 

Why'd you quote me with this stupidity? As poorly as the Dept of Education is run, as poorly as public schools educate our youth.... It's kinda understandable their disdain, is it not? 

[Sparty]

23 minutes ago, jets said:

Public Education is woefully broken and abused?? I guess that is where our discourse lies - because that has not been my experience and/or view. 

Then you may not be as educated about the subject as you think. 

24 minutes ago, jets said:

Public Education is woefully broken and abused?? I guess that is where our discourse lies - because that has not been my experience and/or view. 

It’s all one big excuse with little to no accountability atm.  

[btownqbcoach1]

2 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Then you may not be as educated about the subject as you think. 

It’s all one big excuse with little to no accountability atm.  

bingo. and a bunch of lazy mfers who are worried wayyy too much about feelings and not getting sued compared to actually getting results/improving/etc. 

[jets]

1 hour ago, Sparty said:

Then you may not be as educated about the subject as you think. 

It’s all one big excuse with little to no accountability atm.  

 

1 hour ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Why'd you quote me with this stupidity? As poorly as the Dept of Education is run, as poorly as public schools educate our youth.... It's kinda understandable their disdain, is it not? 

1 hour ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

bingo. and a bunch of lazy mfers who are worried wayyy too much about feelings and not getting sued compared to actually getting results/improving/etc. 

If you can do better, then I'd encourage you to join the fight. While not all are in it for the right reasons, I applaud anyone willing to run a classroom full of kiddos/teenagers and tries to have a positive influence in their lives. You want to live in a "bottom line"/data driven/results world - then fine. But there is so much more to it than that. I have students that, where they come from, you should be proud they even make it to school. 

But, keep beating that Public School sucks drum - we appreciate it. 

[Robert]

56 minutes ago, jets said:

 

If you can do better, then I'd encourage you to join the fight. While not all are in it for the right reasons, I applaud anyone willing to run a classroom full of kiddos/teenagers and tries to have a positive influence in their lives. You want to live in a "bottom line"/data driven/results world - then fine. But there is so much more to it than that. I have students that, where they come from, you should be proud they even make it to school. 

But, keep beating that Public School sucks drum - we appreciate it. 

I'd beg the governor to spend a month in my classroom.  

[Irishman]

Venturing a bit off topic lately.... but no one can point to a single bill passed in Indiana since January of 2009 that has been for the benefit of public school students. Make no mistake, the demise, the concept that they are failing (take a look into special education waivers and how legislators have intentionally made the far more difficult to get), the problems facing public schools and the challenges thrown at them....have all been intentional. This transfer bill is no different. A couple things to watch for this session; what the Governor has touted as property tax relief will be extremely costly to most school districts. He also plans to remove the cap from vouchers. So any family of any income level will be eligible. Meanwhile, pre-k and other programs for early education have long waiting lists and strict income requirements. Current poverty level for a single parent with 3 children (save the judgment) is $25,820. So a parent over that limit is NOT eligible for a program like Head Start, but a household of 4 making $220,000 is eligible for a voucher. Regardless of your typical political beliefs, only one party has been in charge in Indiana going back to Daniels taking office in 2005. 

Bottom line is the more these legislators have gotten involved, the less local control there is and the more problems they create. Again, this transfer bill is just one of many to create more problems.