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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

You can eyeroll all you want , Michigan got boat raced by USC and barely survived Northwestern and Purdue . 

Temp will tell you Michigan is the youngest team in the nation and it will be better next year… Same thing he said last year… Same thing he will say for the foreseeable future…

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Notre Dame created this narrative by refusing to be in a conference. They negotiated “special circumstances “ to get preferred placement starting in 2026. Play in a conference and let’s go

Why are people so hell bent on a conference . ND tried joining the B10 years ago , only to get blocked by Michigan . If ND can survive without being in a conference , why join one ? We will be fine , we will move on to 2026 . 

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Apparently there’s a “Memorandum of Understanding” between ND and the CFP Committee that takes effect next year, assuring ND of a playoff berth if they are ranked in the top 12 by the Committee. If the field goes to 14, they need to finish in the top 13. If it goes to more than that, all bets are off.

https://www.on3.com/news/pete-bevacqua-reveals-notre-dame-is-assured-of-cfp-berth-in-2026-if-irish-are-ranked-in-top-12/

I wonder why we’re just learning of this now. My speculation is it was supposed to be a secret, but when Pete Bevacqua felt that the Committee screwed ND, that went out the window. I think the way this has shaken out has created some hard feelings that won’t go away anytime soon.

 

ND AD Bevacqua on Dan Patrick today…interesting interview 

 

just a guess, but sounds like relationship with ACC is toast 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Temp will tell you Michigan is the youngest team in the nation and it will be better next year… Same thing he said last year… Same thing he will say for the foreseeable future…

And Temp was right.

The Stanford comparison is laughable.

At least gimme Pitt.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Has nothing to do with Miami . It has everything to do with Alabama getting blown out by 5-7 Florida State and then Blown out again in the SEC championship game  . Both ND and Miami should be in .  

It has something to do with Miami...because they took one of the final spots that ND was fighting for.  But I understand your Bama comment.  I think the committee chose to overlook the loss to the 5-7 team, and focused more on the quality of their wins over ranked opponents, while having a much strong strength of schedule as compared to the Irish.  

Whether we agree to not, they chose not to count the conference championship game against Bama.  I understand on one point as they played an additional game that ND did not play.  Perhaps why they need to join a conference.   Where I personally struggle, Bama did not get held accountable for their conference championship game, while it would seem BYU was held accountable.  

Posted
4 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

It has something to do with Miami...because they took one of the final spots that ND was fighting for.  But I understand your Bama comment.  I think the committee chose to overlook the loss to the 5-7 team, and focused more on the quality of their wins over ranked opponents, while having a much strong strength of schedule as compared to the Irish.  

Whether we agree to not, they chose not to count the conference championship game against Bama.  I understand on one point as they played an additional game that ND did not play.  Perhaps why they need to join a conference.   Where I personally struggle, Bama did not get held accountable for their conference championship game, while it would seem BYU was held accountable.  

Bama not dropping from 9 was a bit much to me.

At least put forth the optics by dropping them to 10, lol.

Posted
26 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Beating Michigan this year is like beating Stanford . 

OK...that is completely untrue.  Compare records and rankings.

Ticks me off man...you forced me to defend Temp's team....goshdangit!!

Posted
6 minutes ago, temptation said:

Bama not dropping from 9 was a bit much to me.

At least put forth the optics by dropping them to 10, lol.

Orlovsky made the comment that of the last 16 conference championship games in the NCAA, 15 times, the loser dropped at least one spot. The one team that did not….Alabama this year. 
 


 

Posted
5 minutes ago, temptation said:

And Temp was right.

The Stanford comparison is laughable.

At least gimme Pitt.

 

I did not say Stanford. Have that argument with who said it. Look, Michigan is a good team, not a great team, and their record is indicative of who they are. My criticism of them the last 2 years is they aren’t a top 4 team in the Big 10 with all that talent. I see young teams being successful everywhere with 2 and 3 star players, yet Michigan with 4and 5 star players gets a pass

Posted
4 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

I did not say Stanford. Have that argument with who said it. Look, Michigan is a good team, not a great team, and their record is indicative of who they are. My criticism of them the last 2 years is they aren’t a top 4 team in the Big 10 with all that talent. I see young teams being successful everywhere with 2 and 3 star players, yet Michigan with 4and 5 star players gets a pass

2026 is the tell tale year for the program.

8.5 was the Vegas win total preseason.

Won 9.

Anyone surprised at 9-3 didn’t have realistic expectations to begin with.

We gonna make this about the Wolverines again?

Posted
5 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Orlovsky made the comment that of the last 16 conference championship games in the NCAA, 15 times, the loser dropped at least one spot. The one team that did not….Alabama this year. 
 


 

This is the ESPN bias!!! ESPN owns the CFP and will make damn sure the SEC and its overrated teams get more than their fair share of the pie.

Posted
9 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said:

Why are people so hell bent on a conference . ND tried joining the B10 years ago , only to get blocked by Michigan . If ND can survive without being in a conference , why join one ? We will be fine , we will move on to 2026 . 

Not really accurate either...go read about this.

ND was not ready to give us their NBC contract.  That was never going to fly with the Big 10.  

Their hockey team actually is a member of the Big 10.  (or is allowed to compete as a member)

Posted
4 minutes ago, temptation said:

2026 is the tell tale year for the program.

8.5 was the Vegas win total preseason.

Won 9.

Anyone surprised at 9-3 didn’t have realistic expectations to begin with.

We gonna make this about the Wolverines again?

Nope, I will do my best to only talk about relevant teams the rest of 2025….

Posted
22 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Apparently there’s a “Memorandum of Understanding” between ND and the CFP Committee that takes effect next year, assuring ND of a playoff berth if they are ranked in the top 12 by the Committee. If the field goes to 14, they need to finish in the top 13. If it goes to more than that, all bets are off.

https://www.on3.com/news/pete-bevacqua-reveals-notre-dame-is-assured-of-cfp-berth-in-2026-if-irish-are-ranked-in-top-12/

I wonder why we’re just learning of this now. My speculation is it was supposed to be a secret, but when Pete Bevacqua felt that the Committee screwed ND, that went out the window. I think the way this has shaken out has created some hard feelings that won’t go away anytime soon.

 

Which is ridiculous. Had this been next year, ND would have bumped Miami for the last at-large spot. Imagine the travesty of ND getting in over a Miami team with the same record whom they lost to on the field?

Stop. Scheduling. Notre Dame

Relegate them to scheduling MAC schools and service academies and see if those metrics hold up.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

This is the ESPN bias!!! ESPN owns the CFP and will make damn sure the SEC and its overrated teams get more than their fair share of the pie.

Cannot like this post enough. Absolutely spot on. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Not really accurate either...go read about this.

ND was not ready to give us their NBC contract.  That was never going to fly with the Big 10.  

Their hockey team actually is a member of the Big 10.  (or is allowed to compete as a member)

Dude is talking about Fielding Yost as if it were last year, lol.

Posted
24 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Apparently there’s a “Memorandum of Understanding” between ND and the CFP Committee that takes effect next year, assuring ND of a playoff berth if they are ranked in the top 12 by the Committee. If the field goes to 14, they need to finish in the top 13. If it goes to more than that, all bets are off.

https://www.on3.com/news/pete-bevacqua-reveals-notre-dame-is-assured-of-cfp-berth-in-2026-if-irish-are-ranked-in-top-12/

I wonder why we’re just learning of this now. My speculation is it was supposed to be a secret, but when Pete Bevacqua felt that the Committee screwed ND, that went out the window. I think the way this has shaken out has created some hard feelings that won’t go away anytime soon.

 

I find this incredibly frustrating ND gets this benefit.  Why would other schools not be offered the same?  (assuming they are not)  

Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Nope, I will do my best to only talk about relevant teams the rest of 2025….

Yet you chimed in on @GOLDRUSH1985's post, lol.

Already broken that promise.

Also, by that same metric, I guess Notre Dame is also now irrelevant as they have played their last game of the year.

Bet you won't follow though.

5 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Which is ridiculous. Had this been next year, ND would have bumped Miami for the last at-large spot. Imagine the travesty of ND getting in over a Miami team with the same record whom they lost to on the field?

Stop. Scheduling. Notre Dame

Relegate them to scheduling MAC schools and service academies and see if those metrics hold up.

This.  Gone are the days when teams NEED to schedule a Notre Dame...now the inverse is true.

Karma is a funny thing in life.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Which is ridiculous. Had this been next year, ND would have bumped Miami for the last at-large spot. Imagine the travesty of ND getting in over a Miami team with the same record whom they lost to on the field?

Stop. Scheduling. Notre Dame

Relegate them to scheduling MAC schools and service academies and see if those metrics hold up.

They are already kind of doing that… lol… And the bottom feeders of the Power 4 conferences. Look at their schedule next year, might be even worse than this year…

Posted
4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Which is ridiculous. Had this been next year, ND would have bumped Miami for the last at-large spot. Imagine the travesty of ND getting in over a Miami team with the same record whom they lost to on the field?

Stop. Scheduling. Notre Dame

Relegate them to scheduling MAC schools and service academies and see if those metrics hold up.

Except every conference commissioner agreed to it, just like Swarbick agreed to the initial setup knowing they can never be higher than a 5 seed. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Except every conference commissioner agreed to it, just like Swarbick agreed to the initial setup knowing they can never be higher than a 5 seed. 

They did away with that rule. Ohio State is the 2 seed despite not winning their conference championship.

Posted
5 minutes ago, temptation said:

Yet you chimed in on @GOLDRUSH1985's post, lol.

Already broken that promise.

Also, by that same metric, I guess Notre Dame is also now irrelevant as they have played their last game of the year.

Bet you won't follow though.

This.

No more talk from me this year, 2025, about the team north of Indiana and South of Canada unless there are asinine comments made by Temp regarding such team.

As far as the Irish go, not going to lie, I can’t make the same promise. From ridiculous comments from Irish supporters that show their arrogance and holier than thou, self righteous attitudes, along with their contradictory statements that change from post to post to suit a specific debate, it’s too much fun…

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

They did away with that rule. Ohio State is the 2 seed despite not winning their conference championship.

That was a modification though….in the original agreement, which it appears, the committee expected to be in place for multiple years. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Not really accurate either...go read about this.

ND was not ready to give us their NBC contract.  That was never going to fly with the Big 10.  

Their hockey team actually is a member of the Big 10.  (or is allowed to compete as a member)

Very accurate . When I said years ago , It was way before any NBC contract , you need to go read about it . 

Notre Dame has actively sought to join the Big Ten (then the Western Conference) multiple times, particularly in its early history (late 1890s, early 1900s) and again in the 1990s, but was rejected by the conference, leading them to embrace football independence and forge their own path with national rivalries and unique TV deals, like their current partnership with NBC. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

No more talk from me this year, 2025, about the team north of Indiana and South of Canada unless there are asinine comments made by Temp regarding such team.

As far as the Irish go, not going to lie, I can’t make the same promise. From ridiculous comments from Irish supporters that show their arrogance and holier than thou, self righteous attitudes, along with their contradictory statements that change from post to post to suit a specific debate, it’s too much fun…

Damn, I was hoping you wanted to turn this into a Michigan/Notre Dame debate...

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