Staxawax Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2022/12/05/iu-football-freshman-lb-dasan-mccullough-enters-transfer-portal-indiana-hoosiers/69700462007/ Didn't take long. Let the dominos begin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2022/12/04/indiana-football-which-players-are-in-transfer-portal-2023-nfl-draft-declare-iu-hoosiers/69699863007/ Updated list of all as of 12/4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Spegal moving on…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 6:09 PM, Bash Riprock said: Spegal moving on…. Maybe him at the rb at ball state can trade places 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterSobchak Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Whiting89 said: Maybe him at the rb at ball state can trade places Yes! Spegal could play at a bunch of FCS schools or mid majors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Did he ever get on scholarship? https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/4693615/charlie-spegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Who was the idiot who decided that transferring without penalty was a good thing? This is turning into an absolute joke. The word 'commitment' has no meaning anymore. If a kid decides to leave, he/she should have to pay back the university what they originally saved in scholarship money. Edited December 12, 2022 by BTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 @BTF Now, apply that same logic for ya know, Position and Head Coaches who these players decide to entrust them who were supposedly committed to them, where is that penalty? This lid was blown off long ago, adapt or die NCAA, some would argue NCAA been dead for decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: @BTF Now, apply that same logic for ya know, Position and Head Coaches who these players decide to entrust them who were supposedly committed to them, where is that penalty? This lid was blown off long ago, adapt or die NCAA, some would argue NCAA been dead for decades I hear your argument coach....not sure if its an absolute ideal comparison. Is it identical between a professional and a student? Perhaps there should be more accountability for coaches that don't honor their contracts. No one made them sign longer term deals with guarantees. It is an interesting discussion. Transfer portal and NIL has made college sports more of a minor league system than it was before. Is that truly better for the sport? NIL and the portal is making it so much harder on the military academies to compete....and they were already at an extreme disadvantage due to admission requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: @BTF Now, apply that same logic for ya know, Position and Head Coaches who these players decide to entrust them who were supposedly committed to them, where is that penalty? This lid was blown off long ago, adapt or die NCAA, some would argue NCAA been dead for decades It's a mess, I get it. But you have to draw the line somewhere. It's just out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, BTF said: Who was the idiot who decided that transferring without penalty was a good thing? This is turning into an absolute joke. The word 'commitment' has no meaning anymore. If a kid decides to leave, he/she should have to pay back the university what they originally saved in scholarship money. Nil and transfer portal are leveling the playing field and you are correct the word commitment means nothing, it never had meaning and will continue to have no meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, BTF said: Who was the idiot who decided that transferring without penalty was a good thing? This is turning into an absolute joke. The word 'commitment' has no meaning anymore. If a kid decides to leave, he/she should have to pay back the university what they originally saved in scholarship money. Not sure what coach said but he loved when players committed because he said he knew who his competition was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 53 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: Not sure what coach said but he loved when players committed because he said he knew who his competition was Barry Alvarez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 College sports have always been minor league system, in year 2022, the choice has been made clear they are being compensated with more than just Room and Board and Degrees. Now, I will wholeheartedly agree the roll out of the ERA of NIL has been very short sighted by the NCAA and they had plenty of years to get ready for this, which SHOULD of been DAY 1 of the Ed O'Bannon lawsuit when filed, but perhaps the hubris of the NCAA probably thought they would not lose that case in court and then here we are, Wild Wild West as they say. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: College sports have always been minor league system, in year 2022, the choice has been made clear they are being compensated with more than just Room and Board and Degrees. Now, I will wholeheartedly agree the roll out of the ERA of NIL has been very short sighted by the NCAA and they had plenty of years to get ready for this, which SHOULD of been DAY 1 of the Ed O'Bannon lawsuit when filed, but perhaps the hubris of the NCAA probably thought they would not lose that case in court and then here we are, Wild Wild West as they say. Believe it or not, some organizations actually work out contingency plans in advance, in case Plan A doesn’t pan out. Apparently, that concept is foreign to the NCAA. Most organizational disasters are not the result of a plan failing, but rather of failing to plan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Looks like former IU player Dasan McCullough lands with his brother Daeh in Norman, OK. Surprises me a little...thought at least one of the boys would end up with Dad at ND. https://247sports.com/college/oklahoma/Article/Oklahoma-Sooners-football-recruiting-Daeh-McCullough-Dasan-McCullough-Deland-McCullough-transfer-portal-Jay-Valai-Brent-Venables-Indiana-Hoosiers-Cincinnati-Bearcats-200102132/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 12:46 PM, Bash Riprock said: Looks like former IU player Dasan McCullough lands with his brother Daeh in Norman, OK. Surprises me a little...thought at least one of the boys would end up with Dad at ND. https://247sports.com/college/oklahoma/Article/Oklahoma-Sooners-football-recruiting-Daeh-McCullough-Dasan-McCullough-Deland-McCullough-transfer-portal-Jay-Valai-Brent-Venables-Indiana-Hoosiers-Cincinnati-Bearcats-200102132/ Not sure either qualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqbcoach1 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 2:43 PM, Coach Nowlin said: @BTF Now, apply that same logic for ya know, Position and Head Coaches who these players decide to entrust them who were supposedly committed to them, where is that penalty? This lid was blown off long ago, adapt or die NCAA, some would argue NCAA been dead for decades It's not the same thing, at all. I mean, do they transfer when their professors take new jobs? Because they are committing to be a STUDENT-athlete. There is a hierarchy in life... 18 year olds are at the bottom. Comparing the coaches and players never made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 STOP IT You telling me that IU players are committing to the academics of IU before Tom Allen and the program? For some, academics could be a deciding factor between 2 different schools if they feel that football fits are equal, but to draw the parallelism of professors leaving is comical. Its ok that players have a choice in the matter, if you don't want your players to transfer, then give them a reason not to. if they do then maybe you recruited the wrong player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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