Center Grove @ Ben Davis 6A South Semistate

[BDGiant93]

Eric Moore and the Trojans roll into the Westside to face Russ Mann and the Giants. Should be another classic!

Giants win it by 3, 31-28. It's a coin flip game.

[hhpatriot04]

He has spoken....

Sagarin's Predictor:

Ben Davis (103.88) is a 8.5-point favorite vs. Center Grove (97.23) and has about a 65.96% chance of winning (1.97-point home-field advantage).

Last updated: 2023 November 11 Saturday 17:35:16.345 Central Standard Time = GMT/UTC-06:00

[JustRules]

I've seen both teams this year and think BD is the better team. But CG is so well coached I wouldn't be surprised by either team winning. Should be a good one.

[AllGutsNoGlory]

After watching the CG and WC game if the Trojans allow pressure like they did aight the Warriors. It could be a long night for Cherry as the Giants are averaging 4-5 sacks a game. The Giants have a more well rounded Defense than the Warriors. It will be a clash of titans! 

[HomeCookin]

2 hours ago, AllGutsNoGlory said:

After watching the CG and WC game if the Trojans allow pressure like they did aight the Warriors. It could be a long night for Cherry as the Giants are averaging 4-5 sacks a game. The Giants have a more well rounded Defense than the Warriors. It will be a clash of titans! 

I’d have to disagree. Cherry had time to throw, but played poorly. That was easily his roughest game of the season, but not because he was under pressure. 

[FastpacedO]

16 hours ago, HomeCookin said:

I’d have to disagree. Cherry had time to throw, but played poorly. That was easily his roughest game of the season, but not because he was under pressure. 

No dog in the fight. He will get pressured from Ben Davis and likely even sacked a couple of times. Ben Davis likes to bring it and are very effective at doing so. 

That being said Ben Davis bringing pressure and the blitz at times will leave some open big plays that CG could hit. Timely screens can work too. Sometimes it is a gamble Ben Davis likes to gamble and bring relentless pressure at times in hopes it they get to the QB, but on the flip side it can leave some wide open pass plays if they hit quick enough.

[BSUKingsmen]

Either way, this is the state championship.

[BLACKGOLD2007]

40 minutes ago, BSUKingsmen said:

Either way, this is the state championship.

I think that whoever wins is a strong favorite over CP, I think that if Westfield comes out of the north, they will present a bigger threat to both Center Grove and Ben Davis.

But, I think that 6A south is going to have three state-championship style games in one playoff.

Ben Davis - Brownsburg

Ben Davis - Cathedral 

Ben Davis - Center Grove

[SIR IRISH]

On 11/12/2023 at 10:52 AM, JustRules said:

I've seen both teams this year and think BD is the better team. But CG is so well coached I wouldn't be surprised by either team winning. Should be a good one.

Agreed!

[BDGiant93]

I could be wrong, but I see this as a coin flip game. I think there's a good chance that this could come down to a last possession-type finish. Still riding with the Giants, though.

[FastpacedO]

Interesting facts

Center Grove has won the last 8 meetings between Center Grove and Ben Davis and 11 of the last 13 meetings. At one time the Giants held a 10-2 advantage over the Trojans (in 2006). The Trojans now lead the series 19-15 over the Giants. In 2006 Ben Davis beat Center Grove 4-3, that is a odd Final Score of a game you don't see too often!

[hhpatriot04]

2 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

Interesting facts

Center Grove has won the last 8 meetings between Center Grove and Ben Davis and 11 of the last 13 meetings. At one time the Giants held a 10-2 advantage over the Trojans (in 2006). The Trojans now lead the series 19-15 over the Giants. In 2006 Ben Davis beat Center Grove 4-3, that is a odd Final Score of a game you don't see too often!

I think 4-2 and 5-4 would be the only more rare scores statistically... 2-0, then anytime a team scores 29

 

[BDGiant93]

2 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

Interesting facts

Center Grove has won the last 8 meetings between Center Grove and Ben Davis and 11 of the last 13 meetings. At one time the Giants held a 10-2 advantage over the Trojans (in 2006). The Trojans now lead the series 19-15 over the Giants. In 2006 Ben Davis beat Center Grove 4-3, that is a odd Final Score of a game you don't see too often!

4-3 was a game where Center Grove scored all the points.

A field goal, a safety for holding in the end zone, and a safety for the punter stepping out of bounds. Here's the broadcast on WBDG.

https://audioboom.com/posts/8152957-the-4-3-game-center-grove-ben-davis-football-2006

[BDGiant93]

2 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

Interesting facts

Center Grove has won the last 8 meetings between Center Grove and Ben Davis and 11 of the last 13 meetings. At one time the Giants held a 10-2 advantage over the Trojans (in 2006). The Trojans now lead the series 19-15 over the Giants. In 2006 Ben Davis beat Center Grove 4-3, that is a odd Final Score of a game you don't see too often!

BD coach records vs CG:
Dullaghan 7-2

Allen 3-0

Kirschner 5-9

Simmons 0-8

Mann 0-0

[hhpatriot04]

12 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

4-3 was a game where Center Grove scored all the points.

A field goal, a safety for holding in the end zone, and a safety for the punter stepping out of bounds. Here's the broadcast on WBDG.

https://audioboom.com/posts/8152957-the-4-3-game-center-grove-ben-davis-football-2006

Was this the year we had rain leading up to Friday then rain on Friday and Saturday so several games had to be made up on Monday? I seem to be associating a 4-3 game with that season.

ETA: How was the game archived? Cassette? When did you switch over to a digital recorder? 

[BDGiant93]

23 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Was this the year we had rain leading up to Friday then rain on Friday and Saturday so several games had to be made up on Monday? I seem to be associating a 4-3 game with that season.

ETA: How was the game archived? Cassette? When did you switch over to a digital recorder? 

I think it was on cassette. We've been recording digitally for the last 15 years or so at WBDG.

[hhpatriot04]

1 hour ago, BDGiant93 said:

I think it was on cassette. We've been recording digitally for the last 15 years or so at WBDG.

Nice. Are you holding out for a 5-4 game?

[Footballking16]

2 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

BD coach records vs CG:
Dullaghan 7-2

Allen 3-0

Kirschner 5-9

Simmons 0-8

Mann 0-0

Might be the 3 biggest wins of Allen's coaching career 😁

[FastpacedO]

14 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Might be the 3 biggest wins of Allen's coaching career 😁

He is beat Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, and Wisconsin.

[Footballking16]

3 minutes ago, FastpacedO said:

He is beat Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, and Wisconsin.

*Covid

Edited November 14, 2023 by Footballking16

[FastpacedO]

Just now, Footballking16 said:

*Covid

A win is a win

[temptation]

19 minutes ago, FastpacedO said:

A win is a win

It is not in this case.

Edited November 14, 2023 by temptation

[Slobberknocker]

Ticket rules. ☹️

Semi-State Football  vs. Center Grove - 7 pm
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The ticket link will shut down at 6 p.m. on Friday, November 17th.
Tickets are NOT available for purchase at the gate.

[FastpacedO]

15 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

A win is a win

I mean all the teams had to deal with Covid, it's not like the Hoosiers were exonerated from covid while others were not.

Should  Center Grove, Cathedral, Roncalli, Chatard, Western Boone, and Covenant Christian all give back their 2020 STate Championship Titles because of "Covid". I don't feel they should.

[Grover]

15 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

*Covid

*Penix