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Anyone taking North tonight? Anyone hearing chatter from First Avenue?

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IHSAA may have changed it from counting home games to counting away games. Makes sense in brackets with byes I guess.

Not sure I get your point. What "so many schools"? It sure seems to me the SIAC has 8 great coaches right now. I don't see how you call the SIAC a disappointment. Five schools have a chance to split the title (although I don't think it will happen that way). And the overall quality is as good as previous years. Central and Memorial are not as good as last year, but they were both state finalists. That's a pretty high bar. Castle, MD, Bosse and North are all better. Reitz may be down, but they've been pretty good the past few years. Harrison has struggled, but that is a tough gig and I hear the coach is holding kids accountable, which to me is the right way to turn a program around.

LOL. if you meet him before the game, don't expect a lot of jovial banter. Mike gets pretty intense, to say the least. I remember a few years back I said "good luck Mike" as they were getting off the bus at Enlow and he said "You don't mean that" and kept walking. It was pretty funny.

Yep. I think the Northview-Jasper game will be the best one of the 1st Round.

A perfect reason why the "Success Factor " cycle should be 4 years. Just think what the S32 and S40 brackets would look like with Memorial in 3A and Southridge in 2A.

Sadly, with Memorial and Southridge getting bumped up, most of the questions won't get answered this year because the PAC & SIAC won't meet in the tournament. No Memorial v. GS or HH. No Southridge v. MD. Kind of stinks in terms of GID banter, but a couple of questions will get answered this Friday.

Are we convinced the number of D1 players produced is really the proper measure? GS, Southridge, Central and Memorial have all had a lot of very good teams recently, but I don't recall more than a few D1 players. Those schools have all had a good number of kids play D2, D3, NAIA, not to mention other rare and worthwhile pursuits (studying for seminary, attending service academies, etc.). You sure seem to have an odd fixation, which is surprising considering Lindauer was a great 3 sport player and even better kid. Plus, he was a big part of a lot of kids getting state championship rings and having memories that will last a long time. And by the way, we still have a pretty good QB.... No disagreement with that statement. That is the beauty of HS football.

If Central and Memorial were to meet again, I'm pretty sure the game would be at Central, now Enlow.

You also have to remember t Probably more than just 1-2 teams on MD's schedule who are better than what Linton has played. The only teams on MD's schedule I would categorize as not competitive are Whiting and Ev. Harrison. MD just ended a 5 game SIAC stretch with Memorial, Ev. North, Castle, Ev. Bosse and Ev. Central. To come out of that with 3 Ws is very impressive. If you haven't seen Central, then I think it would be hard to really understand how impressive it was for MD to hold them to 7 points and pull out the W on a last second FG. MD is tough, will not beat themselves and they are much better this year than last year. It will take a heck of a team to beat them in 2A South.

I suppose I choose to believe the players and coaches give full effort regardless of whether the outcome decides a team's playoff fate. Would Cathedral's players and coaches have given more effort or done anything differently if beating Elder or St. X meant they qualified for the IHSAA playoffs and losing meant they didn't? Would more fans have made the trip?

I get it. I just don't think it makes those games any better.

HH over Corydon. GS over Salem. Southridge over Mt. Vernon. Bosse over N. Harrison. HH @ GS. I'll take HH again but GS will be much closer this time. Southridge @ Bosse. Bulldogs in the upset. HH over Bosse. Bosse is 2-3 players away from beating a team like HH. Patriots will wear them down. _____________ @PAC FAN - GS is on the marquee, but winning state and being runner-up (and beating 2 Indy p/p along the way) makes Memorial the headliner of the show in 3A South.

I know nothing about the fan bases for Lawrence North and Pike. How many fans has Lawrence North had for their 8 games up to now? I suspect about that many will show up this week for their Wk. 9 game and about that same amount would show up this week if a playoff spot was on the line.

Overall this is pretty much what a seeded sectional would look like (if you exclude home & away considerations) except that you could flip Central and Memorial. Memorial @ Bye: Personally, I'd prefer to play in Rd. 1 but you can't lose to the Bye and it will be nice to have an extra week to get healthy as the Castle game this week will be a battle. Boonville @ Harrison: This should be an entertaining game. I'd like to play at Boonville in Round 2. The last meeting between Memorial and Boonville was in 1957. Northview @ Jasper: I was more impressed with Northview than Jasper when we played them in Wks. 1 & 2, but Jasper seems to have improved. I haven't followed Northview but they haven't lost since Memorial beat them. It will be interesting to see how Northview does against Indian Creek this week. Reitz @ Central: Seems to be an annual thing in Sectional 24, but might lack the drama of prior years. Central throttled Reitz in the first match-up 42-0. It will be interesting to see how Central bounces back against North this week after losing to MD. Reitz picked up a much-needed W against Bosse. I don't see Reitz being able to hang with Central.

I disagree, but say you are right. That means 50% of the non-qualifiers (who are the visiting teams in Wk. 10) are guaranteed to get $0 or even lose money on a 10th game. I'm no math wizard, but 1/7 of the revenue split from 6 games (or 1/8 of 7 in a 8-team Sectional) is going to be more than $0 or a loss. Even if the 2 schools decide to split the gate, I'm pretty confident 1/7 of 6 games is going to be more than 1/2 of 1 game involving non-qualifiers, at least based upon what I've seen down here in SW IN over the last 30 years. Seeding and a qualifier are different issues. I could see seeding happening because it could help all schools in a Sectional financially. A qualifier isn't a lot of schools get revenue whether they are competitive or not so there is no incentive to support a system that is very likely going to exclude them on an annual basis. I'm with IO, I honestly don't care, but I don't think the pro-qualifier arguments are entirely sound.

@Footballking16 - You are assuming the non-qualifying schools (1) even schedule the 10th game; and (2) would draw enough fans to even pay officials. I'll give you an example from Sectional 24 (where 7 schools will split revenue). Last Friday we played Ev. Harrison (0-8, no chance of qualifying under any legitimate qualifier system). They had less than 25 fans in the stands for a game. As is, Ev. Harrison has a legitimate chance to win a tournament game (against 4-4 Boonville), advance to the 2nd round against Memorial (we drew the bye), and will get the benefit of 1/7 of the revenue from games involving Reitz @ Central (where I'm sure a 1000 or so Memorial fans will attend and add to what should already be a well-attended game), Northview @ Jasper, Rd. 2 games involving Memorial and either Ev. Harrison or Boonville and most likely Central @ either Jasper or Northview, and a probable Sectional final being Central @ Memorial. The regular season game between Central and Memorial was standing room only, so let's say 4,000 fans for that one alone. There is no way a "Bowl Game" between 2 struggling non-qualifiers is going to generate the same revenue as 1/7 of those kinds of Sectional match-ups. Granted, I don't disagree that money shouldn't be the driving force, but the reality is that money is going to be the biggest factor in whether the principals and ADs support any change.

And the school gets it share of the revenue from all Sectional games. This is one of the factors the "qualifier proponents" can't adequately address.

A question for someone smarter than me... In the SAC, after Wk. 9 wouldn't each of the 10 teams have identical SOS rankings since each team played the same 9 schools? Or is it weighted to recent games? Wondering because the SIAC will be in the same boat next year...

Not much chatter this week. Maybe it's a hangover from Wk. 7. The forecast isn't tailgater friendly tonight - rain and temps dropping to mid-50's by kick off. There should be a few good games on tap: Mater Dei at Central Bosse at Reitz North at Castle Harrison at Memorial MD will need to follow Memorial's recipe in this one. If the Wildcats can keep from giving up big plays on D, eat up the clock with sustained drives on O, and keep their wits about them, then they could keep it close and have a chance to upset the Bears. The Tigers are pulling for our Catholic rivals tonight. Schutte is a load for the Bears. (Central 27-24) Bosse is a good team. The big Q is how does Reitz respond after losing to North last week? (Bosse 28-21) North got the big win last week and Castle is playing well of late. Being on the wet grass of Lidy might neutralize the Huskies' speed. (Castle 21-14) Word is Harrison had a couple of kids drop the squad this week. Tigers look to get back in the win column after the 2OT loss to Central. (Memorial 42-14) Batten down the hatches, the rain is a coming.....

In Evansville I would say Levron Williams and Deke Cooper are at the top of my list in the 90's. Also saw Zach Martin for Chatard in 2008 and prayed the kid who got Beetle Bailey'ed by him all night wouldn't be permanently injured and lose his commission to West Point.

99 questions but the soup ain't 1....

I don't know how much stock to put into either the GS or Chatard games with Southport. I don't know much about Southport, but the teams they've beaten aren't setting the HS football world on fire. Granted, losing a QB is always tough, but I would also think that a 6A school would be able to absorb the loss of a couple players much easier than a 2A-4A school. When I watched the GS v. Southport game, I wasn't overly impressed with the numbers and expected a 6A school with 2,000+ students to have a few more bodies on the sideline. As one of (if not the most) the more objective GS posters said in the week leading up to the Southport game, it was a win-win game for GS. Win and they beat a 6A, lose and they lost to a 6A. Heritage Hills' D looked better than Southport to me (especially the secondary players).