Footballking16 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 23 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said: People truly think we should take knees with like... 8 mins to go in a game? Honestly, that's like Top 5 craziest things I've heard, if so There's not many "people" who think this, there's really one person driving this narrative and that person is Muda. And what's worse is that he thinks this should happen anytime the deficit threshold crosses 35 points. I've seen plenty of games where the score is 35-0 at the end of the 1st quarter/early 2nd quarter. Imagine practicing all week (regardless of what side of the ball you're on) and having the other team literally not play football for the remaining 2+ quarters. I'd be far more embarrassed as a player, coach, fan of a losing if a team took a knee for 2+ quarters than losing in blowout fashion, even if we lost 100-0. Edited August 27, 2024 by Footballking16 Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 32 minutes ago, gonzoron said: There it is! Show us on the doll where someone ran the score up on you. ? I don't understand your request. Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: I'd be far more embarrassed as a player, coach, fan of a losing if a team took a knee for 2+ quarters than losing in blowout fashion, even if we lost 100-0. 10/17/2008 96-0. Never Forget. Quote
Footballking16 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 1 minute ago, Muda69 said: 10/17/2008 96-0. Never Forget. LCC taking a knee in the middle of the second quarter would have been far more humiliating. Notice how you're the only one who remembers the time, date, and score? I will guarantee you the sun still came up the next day for those kids at Clinton Prairie. Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 Just now, Footballking16 said: LCC taking a knee in the middle of the second quarter would have been far more humiliating. Notice how you're the only one who remembers the time, date, and score? I will guarantee you the sun still came up the next day for those kids at Clinton Prairie. Nice to know you didn't forget. Quote
Gipper Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 33 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said: Completely agree People truly think we should take knees with like... 8 mins to go in a game? Honestly, that's like Top 5 craziest things I've heard, if so. 1. No chance I'm giving up 8 more minutes to teach, sure we will sub the JV in and run offense, but we aren't taking knees. No one should. We earn those 48 mins of game every week from film Saturday, scouting report meeting/film before school, and 4 days worth of practice. Not to mention the summer/off-season workouts. I am not giving up time to teach our kids, period, not happening. 2. Again, everyone should mind their own business. Spot on! Quote
btownqbcoach1 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 1 minute ago, Footballking16 said: There's not many "people" who think this, there's really one person driving this narrative and that person is Muda. And what's worse is that he thinks this should happen anytime the deficit threshold crosses 35 points. I've seen plenty of games where the score is 35-0 at the end of the 1st quarter/early 2nd quarter. Imagine practicing all week (regardless of what side of the ball you're on) and having the other team literally not play football for the 2+ quarters. I'd be far more embarrassed as a player, coach, fan of a losing if a team took a knee for 2+ quarters than losing in blowout fashion, even if we lost 100-0. 1000000% Pushing the narrative, yes, I agree, does seem like one person. It seemed like others were confused about when taking a knee is acceptable, though. If there are more than 2 minutes left in a game (under 2 min you can run the clock out in 3 downs).. there shouldn't be knees taken. 10 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: LCC taking a knee in the middle of the second quarter would have been far more humiliating. Notice how you're the only one who remembers the time, date, and score? I will guarantee you the sun still came up the next day for those kids at Clinton Prairie. Again. THIS!! Quote
Footballking16 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said: If there are more than 2 minutes left in a game (under 2 min you can run the clock out in 3 downs).. there shouldn't be knees taken. I personally wouldn't take a knee in a game unless unless it was literally to effectively end the game ie game ending first down with say 2:30 left and the opposing team has no timeouts. But if 3rd and 4th stringers are in there, they are playing football until the clock reads 0:00. Edited August 27, 2024 by Footballking16 Quote
btownqbcoach1 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: I personally wouldn't take a knee in a game unless unless it was literally to effectively end the game ie game ending first down with say 2:30 left and the opposing team has no timeouts. But if 3rd and 4th stringers are in there, they are playing football until the clock reads 0:00. Right right. I have no issue with that either. That's the way we do it. I'm just saying... 8 mins to go, 5 mins to go... there should NOT be knees taken. Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 11 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said: Pushing the narrative, yes, I agree, does seem like one person. It seemed like others were confused about when taking a knee is acceptable, though. Where is this acceptability of taking a knee enumerated in something like the NFHS rulebook? Or is this simply a coaching legend? Quote
BDGiant93 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 16 hours ago, Muda69 said: Back by popular demand LOL Quote
Gipper Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 "You learn more from losing than winning. You learn how to keep going." --Morgan Wootten "Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing." --Vince Lombardi "Sometimes you win by losing." --Jeremy Jackson "I just hate losing and that gives you an extra determination to work harder." --Wayne Rooney (English soccer Player) "If you ain't first, you're last." "Second place is the first loser." --Ricky Bobby Quote
Daniel_Bragg Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 12 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said: LOL Nothing he does is popular, or in demand. 1 1 Quote
Gipper Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 "My comeback wasn't about winning or losing; it was about the feeling of being able to compete at top level again." --Thomas Muster 23 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Where is this acceptability of taking a knee enumerated in something like the NFHS rulebook? Or is this simply a coaching legend? If you're afraid of losing, then you daren't win." --Bjorn Bjorg 1 Quote
SuhMe Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 1 hour ago, btownqbcoach1 said: Completely agree People truly think we should take knees with like... 8 mins to go in a game? Honestly, that's like Top 5 craziest things I've heard, if so. 1. No chance I'm giving up 8 more minutes to teach, sure we will sub the JV in and run offense, but we aren't taking knees. No one should. We earn those 48 mins of game every week from film Saturday, scouting report meeting/film before school, and 4 days worth of practice. Not to mention the summer/off-season workouts. I am not giving up time to teach our kids, period, not happening. 2. Again, everyone should mind their own business. And this is why Brownstown continues to be a dominant football program year in and year out. You get my vote Cam when Reed decides to hang it up. Quote
Gipper Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) The way I see it, sports are like a poker game: why quit when you're ahead? Edited August 27, 2024 by Gipper Quote
Whiting89 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 Leave Whiting out of this they’ve had horrible coaching since Cain left and seem to have a good one in place they were usually on the opposite side of these beatings , let’s the kids have some fun Quote
Donnie Baker Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 6 hours ago, Gipper said: Mercy is for the weak. Law Number 3! STATE LAW Quote
crimsonace1 Posted August 29, 2024 Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/27/2024 at 10:39 AM, Footballking16 said: Clock wouldn't stop on an incompletion (in the 2nd half) in a game where one team was up by 35+ points due to a mandated running clock. I don't have an issue with backups/JV running their offense in a blowout so long as they aren't intentional running up the score. You want to run a slant or a 5 yard out to get your backup QB some reps by all means do it, it's the other teams job to stop it. Now running a flea flicker or double reverse up 49 in the 4th quarter regardless of who you have in the game is a no-no, but again that's common sense and happens so infrequently that it doesn't warrant discussion on a thread like this. Back in the pre-running clock days, I was at a game where one team absolutely gashed another by running the ball (the JV running back came in and gained something like 120 yards in the second half). They were getting 10-15 yards per carry, even on dives, because their OL was just dominating. So they decided to start working on stuff. Reporter for the losing team's local paper - who has a reputation for being a bit of a homer - immediately tweets "team is up 50 and going 5-wide and throwing," which, of course, got some traction. Dude - they were throwing 5-yard out routes to try to keep the score down because they were gaining 15 every time they ran between the tackles. Quote
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