Sheridan open

[Muda69]

8 hours ago, AG said:

Of course not, but I don't foresee them winning a lot of championships, either, with all of the current disfunction in that school corporation.

Sheridan Community schools must be getting the dregs of Hamilton county, those who don't want to or can't afford to live in the posh suburban enclaves of Westfield, Carmel, Noblesville, Cicero, etc.

 

[LilUrb]

On 12/5/2024 at 4:22 PM, WestfieldRocks said:

He also never wanted to old Range Line Conference to end when it did after the 1999 season. Westfield and Zionsville were leaving for the new HCC. Wright was really PO'd at Westfield, because Westfield and Sheridan at the time had I believe the second longest continual rivalry going in Indiana. He really took it out on Westfield when they played for the last time in a non conference game in 2004, 53-7 at Westfield.

Best conference!  Miss it!

[AG]

5 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Sheridan Community schools must be getting the dregs of Hamilton county, those who don't want to or can't afford to live in the posh suburban enclaves of Westfield, Carmel, Noblesville, Cicero, etc.

 

I'm not sure, but that thought entered my mind. 

I normally sub in the Kokomo area. Sheridan was as unruly as Taylor and some of the Kokomo middle schools. As far as rural and suburb schools go, it was the worst I've experienced, by far.

[LilUrb]

2 minutes ago, AG said:

I'm not sure, but that thought entered my mind. 

I normally sub in the Kokomo area. Sheridan was as unruly as Taylor and some of the Kokomo middle schools. As far as rural and suburb schools go, it was the worst I've experienced, by far.

I will be honest, Sheridan was never a place where the children exactly fell in line.  Always been pretty rough, and willing to bet probably rougher 20, 30, 40+ years ago.  I remember my brother telling me about a senior putting a cigarette out in his freshman locker....gold old days lol

[CoachPatch]

22 minutes ago, AG said:

I'm not sure, but that thought entered my mind. 

I normally sub in the Kokomo area. Sheridan was as unruly as Taylor and some of the Kokomo middle schools. As far as rural and suburb schools go, it was the worst I've experienced, by far.

I teach at Taylor and have taught at several other Schools. Indianapolis Arlington, Westfield, Indianapolis North Central, Northwestern and I worked at Sheridan for a while as well.  Sheridan and Taylor are not unruly.  Go spend a few days in IPS and find out what unruly is.  Taylor is actually one of the better ran buildings I have been in since I left Westfield.  Kids will bend to your expectations.... unfortunately, as a sub, no matter where you go, they smell blood in the water. 

[AG]

1 hour ago, CoachPatch said:

I teach at Taylor and have taught at several other Schools. Indianapolis Arlington, Westfield, Indianapolis North Central, Northwestern and I worked at Sheridan for a while as well.  Sheridan and Taylor are not unruly.  Go spend a few days in IPS and find out what unruly is.  Taylor is actually one of the better ran buildings I have been in since I left Westfield.  Kids will bend to your expectations.... unfortunately, as a sub, no matter where you go, they smell blood in the water. 

Of course everything is relative. I've subbed at a charter school that was worse than Taylor and Sheridan combined, but Taylor is the worst high school I've subbed at, although it was probably due to it being my first day ever subbing. I love subbing because if I have a bad day, I can just choose to go to another school.

If you really want to see unruly, work in the restricted housing unit of a high level prison, especially after the previous shift was too lazy to feed the population.

 

[Obi-Wan]

19 hours ago, AG said:

I'm not sure, but that thought entered my mind. 

I normally sub in the Kokomo area. Sheridan was as unruly as Taylor and some of the Kokomo middle schools. As far as rural and suburb schools go, it was the worst I've experienced, by far.

Ah you are talking about my schools here. I would tend to agree with CoachPatch on the comment. The kids are great normally but they do smell blood with subs. 

[crimsonace1]

On 12/11/2024 at 7:44 AM, Muda69 said:

Sheridan Community schools must be getting the dregs of Hamilton county, those who don't want to or can't afford to live in the posh suburban enclaves of Westfield, Carmel, Noblesville, Cicero, etc.

 

Sheridan is far enough away from the suburbia that it doesn't really fit the same profile as southern 2/3 of the county. It's much more of a small-town rural school. Heights has more of a small-town small suburb/rural profile, too, but Cicero has some of the suburbia from Noblesville growing northward. 

[Donnie Baker]

36 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

Sheridan is far enough away from the suburbia that it doesn't really fit the same profile as southern 2/3 of the county. It's much more of a small-town rural school. Heights has more of a small-town small suburb/rural profile, too, but Cicero has some of the suburbia from Noblesville growing northward. 

He knows this he just likes to stir shit up 

[Muda69]

1 hour ago, crimsonace1 said:

Sheridan is far enough away from the suburbia that it doesn't really fit the same profile as southern 2/3 of the county. It's much more of a small-town rural school. Heights has more of a small-town small suburb/rural profile, too, but Cicero has some of the suburbia from Noblesville growing northward. 

Thank you for confirming my hypothesis.

 

 

[Major]

Might be a great fit for the David Sharpe offense.

[WestfieldRocks]

From someone that I know that has taught at Sheridan, Bud Wright had been only a coach and not a teacher for about 20 years. Any coach that would want the job might want to also teach. Per this person, a problem is that Sheridan currently has no teaching openings.

[Obi-Wan]

Just now, WestfieldRocks said:

From someone that I know that has taught at Sheridan, Bud Wright had been only a coach and not a teacher for about 20 years. Any coach that would want the job might want to also teach. Per this person, a problem is that Sheridan currently has no teaching openings.

If there is someone that they want bad enough wouldn't you think the school would find a way to get that coach in the building?

[WestfieldRocks]

1 minute ago, Obi-Wan said:

If there is someone that they want bad enough wouldn't you think the school would find a way to get that coach in the building?

You'd think 

[wabashalwaysfights]

6 hours ago, Obi-Wan said:

If there is someone that they want bad enough wouldn't you think the school would find a way to get that coach in the building?

This isn't always as easy as it sounds...

[Daniel_Bragg]

7 hours ago, Obi-Wan said:

If there is someone that they want bad enough wouldn't you think the school would find a way to get that coach in the building?

Do you think a 1A school can just fabricate a full-time position so that an unknown(to the community) coach can have a job?  This would also be hard to justify, given how upset the community remains about this issue.  Bud Wright was a nationally known name.  I honestly can't imagine the pressure that the next person is going to feel coming into this job.

[Obi-Wan]

11 hours ago, wabashalwaysfights said:

This isn't always as easy as it sounds...

I completely agree. It was just an assumption and I know that when you make assumptions it makes an ass out of you and umption.

 

10 hours ago, Daniel_Bragg said:

Do you think a 1A school can just fabricate a full-time position so that an unknown(to the community) coach can have a job?  This would also be hard to justify, given how upset the community remains about this issue.  Bud Wright was a nationally known name.  I honestly can't imagine the pressure that the next person is going to feel coming into this job.

Again I was making an observation as to what other school tend to do when they really want someone as a coach. Honestly whoever gets this job is going to be fighting the biggest uphill battle ever. Sheridan is a community that is very proud of its football tradition and its all thanks to Coach Wright. 

[ThreadSavage]

Sheridan had a female AD who suspended Bud for a game this season due to practicing when it was too hot out for her liking. That suspension likely killed any chance of Sheridan hiring Kevin Wright to take over for his dad. 

Just think about the agreement the school made when they originally hired Bud Wright in 1965 or whatever. He hired on to do a job, and he did as good or better than anyone else in the country for five+ decades, and now they're telling him he can't hold a football practice if the AD says it's too hot out. His original contract probably allows for him to administer salt tablets to the players if he wants to!!! 

[Sparty]

19 hours ago, Obi-Wan said:

If there is someone that they want bad enough wouldn't you think the school would find a way to get that coach in the building?

Yes

12 hours ago, Daniel_Bragg said:

Do you think a 1A school can just fabricate a full-time position so that an unknown(to the community) coach can have a job?  This would also be hard to justify, given how upset the community remains about this issue.  Bud Wright was a nationally known name.  I honestly can't imagine the pressure that the next person is going to feel coming into this job.

Yes

13 hours ago, wabashalwaysfights said:

This isn't always as easy as it sounds...

Yes it is.  

[CoachMack219]

3 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Yes

Yes

Yes it is.  

I like this ^^^ guy. Lol 

[Sparty]

1 minute ago, CoachMack219 said:

I like this ^^^ guy. Lol 

I am not trying to be a jerk or whatever, but people forget public education is funded by taxes….

[wabashalwaysfights]

2 hours ago, Sparty said:

I am not trying to be a jerk or whatever, but people forget public education is funded by taxes….

My saying that it's not always as easy as it seems to get any coach in the building had nothing to do with funding, but everything to do with a number of other issues.  It may be easy to find the money, but if a school wants "Coach X" who teaches math for example and all they have are English openings, that may be a bit of a problem for "Coach X."  It's not hard for the school: emergency licenses are easy enough to come by, but "Coach X" may want no part of teaching English and may well reject the job because there are no math openings.  And it isn't always as easy as simply creating a math position for "Coach X:" at a larger school this is likely easier, but the smaller the school gets, the harder it is to just create a position from whole cloth if you already have a department that is fully staffed.  And you can't always just shuffle the teachers you already have to make room, an administration would need to consider the internal dynamics of the teaching staff and how they would react.

No doubt that many, if not most, administrations would and do pick their top candidate, regardless of teaching certification, and make it work; and no doubt that many coaches, who want to be at a given school, would and are willing to teach whatever is available; but to act like it's just as easy as the snap of a finger ignores a number of other important dynamics.  

[Sparty]

29 minutes ago, wabashalwaysfights said:

My saying that it's not always as easy as it seems to get any coach in the building had nothing to do with funding, but everything to do with a number of other issues.  It may be easy to find the money, but if a school wants "Coach X" who teaches math for example and all they have are English openings, that may be a bit of a problem for "Coach X."  It's not hard for the school: emergency licenses are easy enough to come by, but "Coach X" may want no part of teaching English and may well reject the job because there are no math openings.  And it isn't always as easy as simply creating a math position for "Coach X:" at a larger school this is likely easier, but the smaller the school gets, the harder it is to just create a position from whole cloth if you already have a department that is fully staffed.  And you can't always just shuffle the teachers you already have to make room, an administration would need to consider the internal dynamics of the teaching staff and how they would react.

No doubt that many, if not most, administrations would and do pick their top candidate, regardless of teaching certification, and make it work; and no doubt that many coaches, who want to be at a given school, would and are willing to teach whatever is available; but to act like it's just as easy as the snap of a finger ignores a number of other important dynamics.  

EVERY school can do it.  Most just choose not to.  
 

I completely understand what you are saying.  

[hondo17]

On 12/20/2024 at 1:08 PM, wabashalwaysfights said:

My saying that it's not always as easy as it seems to get any coach in the building had nothing to do with funding, but everything to do with a number of other issues.  It may be easy to find the money, but if a school wants "Coach X" who teaches math for example and all they have are English openings, that may be a bit of a problem for "Coach X."  It's not hard for the school: emergency licenses are easy enough to come by, but "Coach X" may want no part of teaching English and may well reject the job because there are no math openings.  And it isn't always as easy as simply creating a math position for "Coach X:" at a larger school this is likely easier, but the smaller the school gets, the harder it is to just create a position from whole cloth if you already have a department that is fully staffed.  And you can't always just shuffle the teachers you already have to make room, an administration would need to consider the internal dynamics of the teaching staff and how they would react.

No doubt that many, if not most, administrations would and do pick their top candidate, regardless of teaching certification, and make it work; and no doubt that many coaches, who want to be at a given school, would and are willing to teach whatever is available; but to act like it's just as easy as the snap of a finger ignores a number of other important dynamics.  

Create an assistant principal or dean of students type role and hire the coach. 

[Sparty]

28 minutes ago, hondo17 said:

Create an assistant principal or dean of students type role and hire the coach. 

This

Attendance Dean is the new trend too.