GOLDRUSH1985 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 15 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: I find this incredibly frustrating ND gets this benefit. Why would other schools not be offered the same? (assuming they are not) Because we are special , LOL Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 4 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: Very accurate . When I said years ago , It was way before any NBC contract , you need to go read about it . Notre Dame has actively sought to join the Big Ten (then the Western Conference) multiple times, particularly in its early history (late 1890s, early 1900s) and again in the 1990s, but was rejected by the conference, leading them to embrace football independence and forge their own path with national rivalries and unique TV deals, like their current partnership with NBC. In the 90’s, the Big 10 rejected Notre Dame joining the conference because they wanted special treatment when it came to football. It was about money, plain and simple. They wanted 100% of the money on anything football related, they could have cared less about the other sports. Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 8 minutes ago, temptation said: Damn, I was hoping you wanted to turn this into a Michigan/Notre Dame debate... Nah, way too easy to pile on right now. Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 5 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: In the 90’s, the Big 10 rejected Notre Dame joining the conference because they wanted special treatment when it came to football. It was about money, plain and simple. They wanted 100% of the money on anything football related, they could have cared less about the other sports. Provide the data on this please . I have the rebuttal ready . 8 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: Because we are special , LOL We have to be special , all these ND haters trolling a Notre Dame thread . 1 Quote
Footballking16 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: In the 90’s, the Big 10 rejected Notre Dame joining the conference because they wanted special treatment when it came to football. It was about money, plain and simple. They wanted 100% of the money on anything football related, they could have cared less about the other sports. There's a reason why they haven't won a national title in almost 40 years. They still think it's 1972 and the college football universe revolves around them. Stop scheduling them. B10 and SEC teams get nearly $100 mil/yr in media revenue, they no longer need ND for exposure for money. USC is close to telling them to pound sound as well. Let these guys play Army, Navy, and Toledo every weekend if being Independent is that important. Edited December 8, 2025 by Footballking16 1 1 Quote
PDB26 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 29 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Not really accurate either...go read about this. ND was not ready to give us their NBC contract. That was never going to fly with the Big 10. Their hockey team actually is a member of the Big 10. (or is allowed to compete as a member) They are a partial member participating in hockey. Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, and Ohio State played in the same league for thirty some years prior to the Big Ten’s sponsorship of hockey once they had enough teams to win an automatic qualifier to the tournament starting in 2014. On that subject, the hockey tournament is a field of 16 teams comprised of ten at large selected by a computer ranking and six automatic qualifiers. 1 Quote
temptation Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 21 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: Nah, way too easy to pile on right now. LOL, do tell. Quote
gonzoron Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 48 minutes ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: Provide the data on this please . I have the rebuttal ready . We have to be special , all these ND haters trolling a Notre Dame thread . Yeah, I don’t get all the hate. Dude must have really been snubbed in HS, still catching that pass. Quote
gonzoron Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Komets2727 said: Nope, I will do my best to only talk about relevant teams the rest of 2025…. Epic fail 1 hour ago, Komets2727 said: They are already kind of doing that… lol… And the bottom feeders of the Power 4 conferences. Look at their schedule next year, might be even worse than this year… Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: Very accurate . When I said years ago , It was way before any NBC contract , you need to go read about it . Notre Dame has actively sought to join the Big Ten (then the Western Conference) multiple times, particularly in its early history (late 1890s, early 1900s) and again in the 1990s, but was rejected by the conference, leading them to embrace football independence and forge their own path with national rivalries and unique TV deals, like their current partnership with NBC. Fair enough...I am talking the most recent conversations between ND and the Big 10....as I assumed that was relevant to the issues of today. Bottom line, Big 10 will not agree that one school can have its own TV network, and revenue sharing is key. Huge hurdles last time the parties discussed ND joining. 1 Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 2 hours ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: Provide the data on this please . I have the rebuttal ready . We have to be special , all these ND haters trolling a Notre Dame thread . You know it’s true, you can do the research Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 2026 Notre Dame Schedule Wisconsin 4-8 Rice 5-7 Michigan State 4-8 @Purdue 2-10 @North Carolina 4-8 neutral field Navy 9-2 Miami 10-2 Boston College 2-10 SMU 8-4 @Syracuse 3-9 Stanford 3-9 USC 9-3 neutral field 7 home games, 3 away games, 2 neutral field games 57-82 combined record of these teams Atrocious schedule Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 5 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: 2026 Notre Dame Schedule Wisconsin 4-8 Rice 5-7 Michigan State 4-8 @Purdue 2-10 @North Carolina 4-8 neutral field Navy 9-2 Miami 10-2 Boston College 2-10 SMU 8-4 @Syracuse 3-9 Stanford 3-9 USC 9-3 neutral field 7 home games, 3 away games, 2 neutral field games 57-82 combined record of these teams Atrocious schedule Now go and find out what year those contracts were signed and how was the that team at that time>? Jeff Brohm was head Coach of Purdue and had his team in B10 Championship game for 1 example. You know how schedules work, but hey you Prez gave her old friends at Kennesaw St a nice fat check dropping Virginia for Kennesaw st. Paid out the contract breakage to Virginia then downgraded..... Conference USA vs ACC team....... Bottom line: UNTIL, someone finally gets it through the presidents skulls of this unfair playing field of each conference and how they schedule, 9 games vs 8 games vs ??? We will continue to see these things unfold......sadly. Quote
temptation Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Now go and find out what year those contracts were signed and how was the that team at that time>? Jeff Brohm was head Coach of Purdue and had his team in B10 Championship game for 1 example. You know how schedules work, but hey you Prez gave her old friends at Kennesaw St a nice fat check dropping Virginia for Kennesaw st. Paid out the contract breakage to Virginia then downgraded..... Conference USA vs ACC team....... Bottom line: UNTIL, someone finally gets it through the presidents skulls of this unfair playing field of each conference and how they schedule, 9 games vs 8 games vs ??? We will continue to see these things unfold......sadly. Think the USC game is at least in doubt as they mentioned multiple times during this year’s broadcast that this would be the last meeting for a while. Quote
PDB26 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 8 minutes ago, temptation said: Think the USC game is at least in doubt as they mentioned multiple times during this year’s broadcast that this would be the last meeting for a while. I believe the arrangement as we knew it, early October/late November, is in doubt. Other reporting on the issue made it seem like there was agreement on where the series goes from here so far as timing and maybe as soon as next season. 1 Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: Now go and find out what year those contracts were signed and how was the that team at that time>? Jeff Brohm was head Coach of Purdue and had his team in B10 Championship game for 1 example. You know how schedules work, but hey you Prez gave her old friends at Kennesaw St a nice fat check dropping Virginia for Kennesaw st. Paid out the contract breakage to Virginia then downgraded..... Conference USA vs ACC team....... Bottom line: UNTIL, someone finally gets it through the presidents skulls of this unfair playing field of each conference and how they schedule, 9 games vs 8 games vs ??? We will continue to see these things unfold......sadly. Come on now, Purdue? One 8-4 year doesn’t make the Boilers a good team. Purdue has been overall bad for a long time, just like IU until the last 2 years. That schedule is terrible. I don’t care what year you’re looking at. 3 road games where the Irish will be 21+ point favorites, 2 neutral site games where the Irish will be double digit favorites, and 7 home games, 6 of which the Irish will be 25+ point favorites and the other, Miami, where the Irish will be at least 10 point favorites… Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Komets2727 said: Come on now, Purdue? One 8-4 year doesn’t make the Boilers a good team. Purdue has been overall bad for a long time, just like IU until the last 2 years. That schedule is terrible. I don’t care what year you’re looking at. 3 road games where the Irish will be 21+ point favorites, 2 neutral site games where the Irish will be double digit favorites, and 7 home games, 6 of which the Irish will be 25+ point favorites and the other, Miami, where the Irish will be at least 10 point favorites… 2017 is when ND and PU decided for this current contract: Year 1 of Jeff Brohm, where under Coach Brohm, Purdue went to 2017: Bowl Game 2018: Bowl Game 2019: Poor Year 4 wins 2020: Covid: only played 6 games 2021: 9 wins Music Bowl Win , Brohm led team lost by 27-13, only time He coached against ND while at Purdue 2022: B10 West Champs and Loss in Title Game to Michigan Brohm Left 2023 thru 2028 ND plays Purdue. So yeah.....about that Quote
Bash Riprock Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Now go and find out what year those contracts were signed and how was the that team at that time>? Jeff Brohm was head Coach of Purdue and had his team in B10 Championship game for 1 example. You know how schedules work, but hey you Prez gave her old friends at Kennesaw St a nice fat check dropping Virginia for Kennesaw st. Paid out the contract breakage to Virginia then downgraded..... Conference USA vs ACC team....... Bottom line: UNTIL, someone finally gets it through the presidents skulls of this unfair playing field of each conference and how they schedule, 9 games vs 8 games vs ??? We will continue to see these things unfold......sadly. I think the Virginia game may have been even deeper....speculation but UVA has never been overly kind to some of the other schools in the state of VA. Remember where Cignetti came from....and the deal with UVA was put in place prior to his tenure. I think it was more than just trying to soften the schedule. Quote
Komets2727 Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: 2017 is when ND and PU decided for this current contract: Year 1 of Jeff Brohm, where under Coach Brohm, Purdue went to 2017: Bowl Game 2018: Bowl Game 2019: Poor Year 4 wins 2020: Covid: only played 6 games 2021: 9 wins Music Bowl Win , Brohm led team lost by 27-13, only time He coached against ND while at Purdue 2022: B10 West Champs and Loss in Title Game to Michigan Brohm Left 2023 thru 2028 ND plays Purdue. So yeah.....about that Ugh. They have been playing Purdue long before Brohm was the coach there. The lopsidedness of the “rivalry” is a close second to the Navy fiasco of a rivalry. Yeah, yeah, I know the historical significance of supposedly why they keep the game, but college football is WAY different than what it was. You know, back when the SEC was winning and cheating with paying players under the table, cough cough allegedly, NIL has evened the playing field… 6 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: I think the Virginia game may have been even deeper....speculation but UVA has never been overly kind to some of the other schools in the state of VA. Remember where Cignetti came from....and the deal with UVA was put in place prior to his tenure. I think it was more than just trying to soften the schedule. Frankly, Kennesaw State may have been an upgrade from Virginia and joke of a conference. Just sayin… Edited December 8, 2025 by Komets2727 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted December 8, 2025 Posted December 8, 2025 My response solely on your insertion that Purdue was dormant when the current contract was signed and I simply pointed out the flaw in your opinion on that particular comment you made , so then you pivot to Red Grange 37 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: Ugh. They have been playing Purdue long before Brohm was the coach there. The lopsidedness of the “rivalry” is a close second to the Navy fiasco of a rivalry. Yeah, yeah, I know the historical significance of supposedly why they keep the game, but college football is WAY different than what it was. You know, back when the SEC was winning and cheating with paying players under the table, cough cough allegedly, NIL has evened the playing field… Frankly, Kennesaw State may have been an upgrade from Virginia and joke of a conference. Just sayin… Go ahead and do a Conf USA vs Acc side by side. Stop it. Quote
temptation Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 Another thing that intrigues me about this entire thing is the fact that the public statements indicate this was a “team decision.” I have a hard time believing it was unanimous. Imagine being a senior on this football team who has no future in the sport at any level. You had no idea you were walking off that field in Palo Alto and would never put on pads again 9 days ago. All to “make a statement.” Gut wrenching. 1 Quote
23andCounting Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 8 hours ago, Footballking16 said: There's a reason why they haven't won a national title in almost 40 years. They still think it's 1972 and the college football universe revolves around them. Stop scheduling them. B10 and SEC teams get nearly $100 mil/yr in media revenue, they no longer need ND for exposure for money. USC is close to telling them to pound sound as well. Let these guys play Army, Navy, and Toledo every weekend if being Independent is that important. Does it have something to do with Florida State winning the championship in 1993 after losing to Notre Dame head to head? Double standard. Quote
23andCounting Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 58 minutes ago, temptation said: Another thing that intrigues me about this entire thing is the fact that the public statements indicate this was a “team decision.” I have a hard time believing it was unanimous. Imagine being a senior on this football team who has no future in the sport at any level. You had no idea you were walking off that field in Palo Alto and would never put on pads again 9 days ago. All to “make a statement.” Gut wrenching. Because the CFPS led them on the entire way, then pulled the rug out from underneath them. The players know they are good enough to win the national title, anything less than a playoff appearance is a slap in the face, plain and simple. Kudos to Notre Dame to extending their middle finger to the process. I enjoy listening to College Sports on SiriusXM. Had no idea so many people around the country agree with me that Notre Dame was a serious threat to win the whole thing. Look, the SEC is desperate right now. They've lost two years in a row. Having Notre Dame out just gives them a better shot this year. 1 Quote
temptation Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: Because the CFPS led them on the entire way, then pulled the rug out from underneath them. The players know they are good enough to win the national title, anything less than a playoff appearance is a slap in the face, plain and simple. Kudos to Notre Dame to extending their middle finger to the process. I enjoy listening to College Sports on SiriusXM. Had no idea so many people around the country agree with me that Notre Dame was a serious threat to win the whole thing. Look, the SEC is desperate right now. They've lost two years in a row. Having Notre Dame out just gives them a better shot this year. When the 10/10 hot girl turns you down, you look in the mirror and “settle” for the 8… If you suddenly think you’re too good for the 8, then prepare yourself for a lifetime of lonely nights watching HBO after dark. What a soft program. Edited December 9, 2025 by temptation Quote
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