MICFan34 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 https://twitter.com/WJ_Athletics/status/1220455344402587658?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Wish Coach Marsh well in his new job. I am sure Roncalli will have a nice pool of candidates to choose from. Lots of tradition for the Rebels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Roncalli has officially become toxic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 This should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TrojanDad said: Perhaps this was a positive change for all parties........ Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, TrojanDad said: Perhaps this was a positive change for all parties........ Clearly it’s positive for Roncalli that Marsh is gone (given the circumstance) but to simply say that a positive change was made seems to imply that there was perhaps some “choice” about it either by the school or the coach. I have some strong doubts that Roncalli ultimately had any choice as to making this “positive” change or that Marsh had much choice in future coaching in Indiana. Or that this is over for Roncalli as regards the IHSAA (let alone any civil actions). Edited January 26, 2020 by Lysander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TrojanDad said: Never said this issue was put to bed. Never said it was “free will”. But it’s a start. I think you are really stretching to insinuate my statement had anything to do with choice. Yeah...apologies, didn’t intend to jump on you and was concerned that I might be directing my frustration as to how Roncalli has handled this to your post. I have a great deal of affection for Roncalli (truly do) but the more I learn, the more “frustrated” (my polite word choice) I become as to this whole thing. It indirectly reflects badly on all the archdiocesan schools.....schools that I, personally, always wish the best for. Upon first becoming aware of the incident, I was of a mind that this could have happened anywhere (at least the initial aspects of it) and that the way it was addressed could be attributed to well-intended bumbling....still, though.....bumbling. The more I hear, both officially and unofficially, the more I have come to believe that certain aspects of the response were quite intentional, and in the case of how it was handled with the transferring school - intentional....and misleading to that school. Edited January 26, 2020 by Lysander 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjay Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Looks like Roncalli basically said find another job and we won’t have to fire you. And by the way I’m hearing no charges will be filed over locker room incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanka Jahari Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 What is the endzone camera situation at Roncalli? This would be important information for those interested in applying for their football job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Is there still talent at Roncalli? 10-13 over the last two years has me wondering if the negatives outweigh the positives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Knightmare said: Is there still talent at Roncalli? 10-13 over the last two years has me wondering if the negatives outweigh the positives The opinion of many is that the talent is in the classes that will be Jr and So next year. The QB (Jr) will be into his 3rd year starting. Never played QB until 8th grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICFan34 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Are there any Roncalli alums coaching elsewhere or members of the current staff who would make a good fit? Pat Kuntz, current DL coach at VMI, would be an intriguing choice if he would want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms here...but would this situation been handled differently had it been at a public school? I get the "swept under the rug" type of feeling ...and maybe that was for the best for all involved. Just asking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 In cases like this, there is far more that goes into the situation that appears to ever be actually reported. Sure it was shocking story, story that was explosive, no doubt, however, only side thus far that has been actually heard was from the initial report. Wish Roncalli well in their search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Knightmare said: Is there still talent at Roncalli? 10-13 over the last two years has me wondering if the negatives outweigh the positives I, admittedly, don’t know the CYO talent like I did 10 years ago but I can’t imagine it has dried up on the South Side. It certainly hasn’t in the North. Roncalli is only 3 years out from a 2016 15-0 State Championship run. Frankly, I feel like the 2017 group was even better (they certainly looked that way when I watched them) but they were bumped up to 5A and suffered a close loss to Cathedral in the first round of Sectional (huh....a Roncalli/Cathedral first round Sectional game......that never happens). I’d guess the talent is still there. I’m going to be honest, Chatard was pretty special this year, and admittedly Roncalli was down, but I really don’t think Chatard had 46 points more talent than Roncalli. I think that point differential had to do with another component of the game. This is a great job. I wish them well filling it. Edited January 27, 2020 by Lysander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 6:09 AM, TrojanDad said: Perhaps this was a positive change for all parties..... Any chance Bruce Scifres returns to right the ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, DT said: Any chance Bruce Scifres returns to right the ship? EVERYBODY I have mentioned this to has said “No, No and No”. I don’t know why and I won’t speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Lysander said: Roncalli is only 3 years out from a 2016 15-0 State Championship run. Frankly, I feel like the 2017 group was even better (they certainly looked that way when I watched them) but they were bumped up to 5A and suffered a close loss to Cathedral in the first round of Sectional (huh....a Roncalli/Cathedral first round Sectional game......that never happens). If they were 3A, they'd be in Sectional 28. 😀 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 53 minutes ago, DT said: Any chance Bruce Scifres returns to right the ship? 49 minutes ago, Lysander said: EVERYBODY I have mentioned this to has said “No, No and No”. I don’t know why and I won’t speculate. Likewise from what I Have been told as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Lysander said: I, admittedly, don’t know the CYO talent like I did 10 years ago but I can’t imagine it has dried up on the South Side. It certainly hasn’t in the North. Roncalli is only 3 years out from a 2016 15-0 State Championship run. Frankly, I feel like the 2017 group was even better (they certainly looked that way when I watched them) but they were bumped up to 5A and suffered a close loss to Cathedral in the first round of Sectional (huh....a Roncalli/Cathedral first round Sectional game......that never happens). I’d guess the talent is still there. I’m going to be honest, Chatard was pretty special this year, and admittedly Roncalli was down, but I really don’t think Chatard had 46 points more talent than Roncalli. I think that point differential had to do with another component of the game. This is a great job. I wish them well filling it. The CYO talent is why they think the talent is in the soon to be Jr (Roncalli schools won 2 out of three division playoffs) and soon to be Sophmores (St Jude won big school CYO division). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubbyFox Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 3:54 PM, superjay said: Looks like Roncalli basically said find another job and we won’t have to fire you. And by the way I’m hearing no charges will be filed over locker room incident. I keep seeing that too, but the "quote" from the prosecutor raised a red flag for me. They're not usually so blunt with things like that. I reached out to a reporter who has been covering it, and he said that he contacted the prosecutor's office to verify this and they said it was still under investigation - no decisions have been made. So yeah, I'll keep waiting for the official word - can't believe everything you see on social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Lysander said: I really don’t think Chatard had 46 points more talent than Roncalli. I think that point differential had to do with another component of the game. Was that other component the end zone camera situation? (Sorry. Couldn’t resist!) I agree with your assessment. I think Roncalli was a year away past season. And my bet is that Chatard wins regional this fall, setting up a Sectional 22 Chatard vs Roncalli first round game in 2021. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaWrestlingGuy1 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 The Roncalli freshmen had a nice year. They gave the Cathedral freshmen all they could handle as Carhedral needed a touchdown in the Q4 2 minute drill to win. St. Barnabas was in the 2017 CYO Final and St. Jude won the 2018 CYO Championship. Both teams had some good linemen to build around (Schwartz, Neu, Butts). I would ask 2 questions: 1. How has the malfeasance of the former/current administration over Archbishop Thompson’s sexual identity crusade impacted enrollment? Combined with other incidents in multiple sports, it certainly has stained public perception. 2. How has the recent emergence of Center Grove impacted Roncalli’s football pool of talent? Seems like a good reclamation project for a coach as there is less downside risk, but they will need to reestablish a brand down there. PS. It all started when they dropped Cathedral from the schedule ;) Had to get a jab in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 7 hours ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy1 said: 2. How has the recent emergence of Center Grove impacted Roncalli’s football pool of talent? I think that definitely has an effect on Roncalli. The recent emergence of Franklin Community has to hurt as well since they have a great coach and they are on the rise. It would be a tough decision because if I was good enough, I would definitely go to CG because of the exposure, Coach Moore, and the MIC. And no way would I want to go to FC if I was passionate about football because they were a doormat of a program for a long time, but Coll has them on the rise. I think this is a challenging job and I think a passionate alum would be a smart hire to reestablish the brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjay Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Don’t need an alum! Hire a good young coach that will respect the tradition and breathe new life into the program. First call should be to KC Woods at Danville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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