dazed and confused Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Congratulations to the Huskies and Red Devils on their division championships ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, dazed and confused said: Congratulations to the Huskies and Red Devils on their division championships ! It's still possible for HH and WL to play 3 times this season. At least it won't be back to back weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmsu_aggie Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, gonzoron said: It's still possible for HH and WL to play 3 times this season. At least it won't be back to back weeks. Now that would be the upset of the year in 3A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmsu_aggie Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 hours ago, dazed and confused said: I see where schedule on Harrells site has been updated.... Hamilton Heights vs West Lafayette Western vs Rensselaer Central Tipton vs Lafayette Central Catholic Cass vs Twin Lakes Northwestern va Benton Central All of these games should be reversed. The home team is normally listed second. The east division teams are at home this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, nmsu_aggie said: All of these games should be reversed. The home team is normally listed second. The east division teams are at home this year. Harrell's site always lists them this way for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, nmsu_aggie said: Now that would be the upset of the year in 3A. It's still an all-in Tournament. Every team in the State gets a shot at the State Championship. Maybe Arcadia can be the 'new' Milan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 39 minutes ago, nmsu_aggie said: All of these games should be reversed. The home team is normally listed second. The east division teams are at home this year. My apologeez ! etteyafaL tseW sv sthgieH notlimaH lartneC realessneR sv nretseW cilohtaC lartneC etteyafaL sv notpiT sekaL niwT sv ssaC siweL lartneC notneB sv nretsewhtroN Fixed ! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 game capsules from Harrells West Lafayette (7-1) at Hamilton Heights (4-4) GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Husky Stadium. COACHES: Shane Fry, 84-16 in 8th year at West Lafayette. Jon Kirschner, 8-20 in 3rd year at Hamilton Heights. SAGARIN RATINGS: West Lafayette, 74.11, 46th overall, 6th in 3A. Hamilton Heights, 46.07, 166th overall, 31st in 3A. LAST OUTING: West Lafayette defeated Twin Lakes, 49-14. Hamilton Heights defeated Lewis Cass, 28-19. VS. COMMON FOES: West Lafayette 2-0; Hamilton Heights 2-0. OPPONENTS' RECORDS: West Lafayette 28-31. Hamilton Heights 36-26. SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: West Lafayette, 8-2 LAST MEETING: West Lafayette, 49-14, Sep. 4, 2020. jh PREDICTION: West Lafayette, 38-21. Rensselaer Central (5-3) at Western (7-1) GAME TIME: 7:30 pm ET, Western. COACHES: Chris Meeks, 173-88 in 22nd year at Rensselaer. Alex Stewart, 27-13 in 4th year at Western, 37-23 in 6th year overall. SAGARIN RATINGS: Western, 66.36, 70th overall, 15th in 4A. Rensselaer, 56.14, 118th overall, 17th in 2A. LAST OUTING: Rensselaer defeated Northwestern, 56-0. Western defeated Tipton, 42-28. VS. COMMON FOES: Rensselaer 2-0; Western 2-0. OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Rensselaer 28-34. Western 23-38. SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Western, 3-2 LAST MEETING: Western, 33-14, Sep. 4, 2020. jh PREDICTION: Western, 31-24. Lafayette Central Catholic (2-2) at Tipton (5-2) GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Tipton Stadium. COACHES: Brian Nay, 19-12 in 3rd year at Central Catholic. Aaron Tolle, 115-63 in 16th year at Tipton. SAGARIN RATINGS: Tipton, 57.34, 109th overall, 12th in 2A. Central Catholic, 41.83, 181st overall, 15th in 1A. LAST OUTING: Central Catholic defeated Benton Central, 28-12. Tipton lost to Western, 42-28. VS. COMMON FOES: Central Catholic 1-0; Tipton 1-0. OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Central Catholic 12-19. Tipton 22-28. SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Central Catholic, 8-4 LAST MEETING: Tipton, 41-21, Sep. 18, 2020. jh PREDICTION: Tipton, 35-24. Twin Lakes (4-3) at Lewis Cass (2-6) GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Owens Stadium. COACHES: Kevin Sayler, 4-3 in 1st year at Twin Lakes, 21-17 in 4th year overall. Clayton Mannering, 2-6 in 1st year at Cass. SAGARIN RATINGS: Twin Lakes, 42.32, 178th overall, 34th in 3A. Cass, 31.96, 219th overall, 35th in 2A. LAST OUTING: Twin Lakes lost to West Lafayette, 49-14. Cass lost to Hamilton Heights, 28-19. VS. COMMON FOES: Twin Lakes 2-2; Cass 2-2. OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Twin Lakes 23-30. Cass 38-25. SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Cass, 3-0 LAST MEETING: Cass, 35-26, Oct. 13, 2017. jh PREDICTION: Twin Lakes, 28-24. Benton Central (0-8) at Northwestern (0-8) GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Tiger Field. COACHES: Tyler Marsh, 0-8 in 1st year at Benton Central. Austen Robison, 1-26 in 3rd year at Northwestern, 14-44 in 6th year overall. SAGARIN RATINGS: Benton Central, 17.26, 269th overall, 58th in 3A. Northwestern, 10.66, 284th overall, 62nd in 3A. LAST OUTING: Benton Central lost to Lafayette Central Catholic, 28-12. Northwestern lost to Rensselaer Central, 56-0. VS. COMMON FOES: Benton Central 0-5; Northwestern 0-5. OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Benton Central 37-21. Northwestern 31-27. SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Northwestern, 4-2 LAST MEETING: Benton Central, 27-19, Oct. 18, 2019. jh PREDICTION: Benton Central, 28-24. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, dazed and confused said: My apologeez ! etteyafaL tseW sv sthgieH notlimaH lartneC realessneR sv nretseW cilohtaC lartneC etteyafaL sv notpiT sekaL niwT sv ssaC siweL lartneC notneB sv nretsewhtroN Fixed ! Seems very FEARLESS of you there. to be a FLY on the wall ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Seems very FEARLESS of you there. to be a FLY on the wall ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Curious as to how 2nd, 3rd and 4th places were decided in the West ? They obviously did not play each other so can't use that other thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCCAlum Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, dazed and confused said: Curious as to how 2nd, 3rd and 4th places were decided in the West ? They obviously did not play each other so can't use that other thing... I believe there was a lot of politicking. Based on how LCC is handling COVID Tipton may want to line up a backup opponent. The LCC Volleyball team pulled out of the state tournament over the weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, dazed and confused said: Curious as to how 2nd, 3rd and 4th places were decided in the West ? They obviously did not play each other so can't use that other thing... From my understanding; West Lafayette was fornatue to play BC, RCHS, TL, and LCC: So common opponent there: WL won all those games: Then it went to Points Allowed to WL. Sep. 11 Lafayette Central Catholic 1A © W 47 14 Sep. 18 at Rensselaer Central 2A © W 27 21 2OT Sep. 25 Benton Central 3A © W 65 6 Oct. 9 at Twin Lakes 3A © W 49 14 RCHS 27 LCC 47 TL 49 BC didn't matter score as they had zero wins in West, so was slotted to face NW EAST SIDE: HH, Tipton/ Western all finished 3-1 Using same metrix, Heights gave up less to Western and Tipton, hence they get the nod for conference championship crossover So between Tipton and Western: Maybe they used H2H, to put Western over Tipton for 2nd place, Maybe they used HH game where Western only gave up 19, even in loss, but Tipton gave up 21? I know there was a thought once 1st Place game was determined and last place game was figured out, there was a chance to just match up teams so there was not replaying of games, at least that is what a couple of other coaches in conference had shared with me over the weekend, but must not of came to frution. I know Coach Meeks said all week, he did not care, just tell us where and when and we will show up. So onto to Western, even for a 2nd time, still going to be a great opportunity for both teams. Heights: Sep. 18 Western 4A © W 19 18 OT Oct. 2 Tipton 2A © L 21 24 Tipton: Oct. 2 at Hamilton Heights 3A © W 24 21 Oct. 9 Western 4A © L 28 42 Western: Sep. 18 at Hamilton Heights 3A © L 18 19 OT Oct. 9 at Tipton 2A © W 42 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fballfan15 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I was told it was indeed fewest points allowed that broke the tie. I know a few years ago it was point differential among the tying teams. That made more sense in opinion. At this point, it’s all about getting ready for the postseason anyways so who cares who you play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: From my understanding; West Lafayette was fornatue to play BC, RCHS, TL, and LCC: So common opponent there: WL won all those games: Then it went to Points Allowed to WL. Sep. 11 Lafayette Central Catholic 1A © W 47 14 Sep. 18 at Rensselaer Central 2A © W 27 21 2OT Sep. 25 Benton Central 3A © W 65 6 Oct. 9 at Twin Lakes 3A © W 49 14 RCHS 27 LCC 47 TL 49 BC didn't matter score as they had zero wins in West, so was slotted to face NW Thanks ! Benton Central was the other common opponent of those 3 and wondered if those games also factored in, which would have evened things out for LCC and TL if used points scored, and then went to something else. Thanks again ! Edited October 12, 2020 by dazed and confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Fballfan15 said: I was told it was indeed fewest points allowed that broke the tie. I know a few years ago it was point differential among the tying teams. That made more sense in opinion. At this point, it’s all about getting ready for the postseason anyways so who cares who you play. If you ever get to play for the conference championship, it will matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fballfan15 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Punttheball said: If you ever get to play for the conference championship, it will matter. We have but my comment was to pile on to what Nowlin said. We knew Heights vs WL but were unsure for a while about the other matchups. I meant it as, it doesn’t matter if you’re playing LCC, Rensselaer, or Twin Lakes. It’s all about getting ready for the tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Fballfan15 said: I know a few years ago it was point differential among the tying teams. Heights still would have won a tie breaker if it was among the tying teams. If it was fewest points allowed, that is. Heights: 42, Western 47, Tipton 66. But I also agree, it's about getting ready for the tournament. Good luck to the Blue Devils, and all other Hoosier teams(except 1)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fballfan15 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Heights still would have won a tie breaker if it was among the tying teams. If it was fewest points allowed, that is. Heights: 42, Western 47, Tipton 66. But I also agree, it's about getting ready for the tournament. Good luck to the Blue Devils, and all other Hoosier teams(except 1)! Point differential between the 3 was Western +13, Heights -2, and Tipton -11 so Western would have won. But yes it was fewest points allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I think moving to fewest points allowed was in theory to keep teams from running up scores if they knew tie breaker was point differential. Just one thought, But as stated, neither her nor there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: I think moving to fewest points allowed was in theory to keep teams from running up scores if they knew tie breaker was point differential. Just one thought, But as stated, neither her nor there. While I believe in theory that is the best way if all games between conference foes are factored in, but if only using games between the 3 vying for title then think they wouldn't be ruuning up score as games are too competitive then point spread mite be best. Just another thought ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachDurham Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 LCCAlum 156 44 Lc_Bears_04 152 48 gonzoron 148 52 captainobvious 147 53 Fballfan15 145 55 FarmerFran 145 55 CoachDurham 144 56 CoachSnyder 143 57 Mod22 141 59 footballer_02 139 61 DonnieBaker 137 63 coachanderson 136 64 Rstandish 136 64 nmsu_aggie 135 65 TheStatGuy 133 67 coachmurray 132 68 warriorbroncho77 132 68 MrsStandishDB 129 71 skeeterman 126 74 muda69 125 75 obi-wan 123 77 Nowlin 118 82 foxbat 113 87 CamB31 105 95 brvheart63 44 158 NEIfootballGuy 13 187 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Leaped over @foxbat and @CamB31 COming for you next @Obi-Wan POW POW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: Leaped over @foxbat and @CamB31 COming for you next @Obi-Wan POW POW Ummmm ... should I tell him that I didn't have any picks last week? 😃 Reminds me of that old joke about the Cleveland Browns. The Browns had just received the kickoff after their opponent's had scored. The refs blew the whistle for the two-minute warning and, inadvertently, their opponents mistook the whistle for the end of game whistle and ran into the locker room. Three plays later, the Browns scored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, foxbat said: Ummmm ... should I tell him that I didn't have any picks last week? 😃 Reminds me of that old joke about the Cleveland Browns. The Browns had just received the kickoff after their opponent's had scored. The refs blew the whistle for the two-minute warning and, inadvertently, their opponents mistook the whistle for the end of game whistle and ran into the locker room. Three plays later, the Browns scored. Good we are even then: I missed week 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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