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Time for IHSAA to Implement The NSF : Non Success Factor - Its the right thing to do


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1 hour ago, Obi-Wan said:

Does this run the risk of high schools "Tanking" to drop a class to have more success? I didn't see that on this thread in any other post, unless I missed it. Also how does the IHSAA combat "Tanking"?

That is a very valid question--thank you for your insight.  That is one reason why I'm not in favor this this.   Another one, what would be done with the class 1A schools.  Have them run cross country or play volleyball? 

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The conversation over in the County school thread has reopened the door to discussion concerning implementation of the Failure Factor.  For purposes of political correctness, lets call it the Non Succ

Any Non-success list would have to include Pike Central.   Has the IHSAA football tournament been around in its current format since 1985? 1986?  Pike Central has won one sectional game in that time s

DT back when we put the SF together I brought up the concept of bumping teams down who had not won a playoff game in the four years span, down one level.  It garnered virtually zero support in the com

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On 2/26/2021 at 8:26 AM, Dolts said:

Didn't some Parke County schools consolidate to be relevant in Athletics? 

Is that what the NSF would prevent?

They consolidated because Turkey Runs was about to go under. They were already under the same school board and superintendent with Rockville. 

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On 2/26/2021 at 9:57 AM, Muda69 said:

I'm assuming before the consolidation that Rockville and Turkey Run were separate government school corporations? Therefore a consolidation would save $ on administrative staff like a superintendent.

 

False they’ve been under the same umbrella for over 10 years

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On 2/26/2021 at 12:24 PM, Bear54 said:

You advocating for a single High School in Parke County? 

That put them well into 2A. And they hate each other, north hates the south. STATE LAW!

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16 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Do you really believe a HS football coach would instruct player A to drop a pass on purpose or ask player B to purposefully miss a tackle?

 

 

No, I don't believe that they would, but I just pose the question. What, other than pride stops this from happening?

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23 minutes ago, temptation said:

You know me...I want a success factor that combines enrollment with free/reduced lunch rate.

But you don't even see that data on the IDOE's website anymore, do you?

 

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Allow schools to opt out of the tournament and schedule another game or games.  School could only opt out during enrollment count years.   Another option would be to allow schools to petition the IHSAA to move down a class.  Petition requirements could be socioeconomic factors, win/loss records, longevity of poor performance in current class, etc.

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3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

But you don't even see that data on the IDOE's website anymore, do you?

 

There's a spreadsheet called school-enrollment-ethnicity-and-free-reduced-price-meal-status-2006-20-1.xlsx on the site that contains ethnicity as well as free/reduced numbers.  Have to use a little Excel skill to get rates, but fairly doable.

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44 minutes ago, foxbat said:

There's a spreadsheet called school-enrollment-ethnicity-and-free-reduced-price-meal-status-2006-20-1.xlsx on the site that contains ethnicity as well as free/reduced numbers.  Have to use a little Excel skill to get rates, but fairly doable.

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Thank you.  Doing the percentage calculation for Frankfort High school using the data from that spreadsheet matches the 68% now listed as "Economically Disadvantaged" on the FHS inview.doe.in.gov website.  Why the DOE switched to using a more PC nomenclature instead of just "Free/Reduced Meals" is interesting:

 

 

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2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Thank you.  Doing the percentage calculation for Frankfort High school using the data from that spreadsheet matches the 68% now listed as "Economically Disadvantaged" on the FHS inview.doe.in.gov website.  Why the DOE switched to using a more PC nomenclature instead of just "Free/Reduced Meals" is interesting:

 

 

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Interesting, but not surprising.

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