PLAC-MSC 2024

[WWFan]

1 hour ago, Fkfootball said:

There is a reason that Henryville has never started a program. Salem has more kids than Pekin and they struggle to be competitive. Just not a good area for football. The kids aren't very big.

I disagree with alot of this. WW just had back to back semi state appearances. Brownstown has success. Paoli and Springs Valley had good teams last few years. Pekins biggest problem (to me) is the MSC. They can't get any traction in that conference. If in PLAC they beat WW and probably beat Mitchell and CC. Last few years most likely better then Mitchell and SV. Hard to get kids excited when you ain't beating 4A programs and constant programs like Brownstown. So generally at best your 2-7 going into tourny. They've beaten WW 2 times in history. Clarksville going independent lost them a win. 

If I'm MSC I let them go independent in football. Im sure some of the others would like to schedule others. Pekin can keep WW and Salem. Add schools like Clarksville, Crawford and Henryville (if they make it to Varsity). Maybe keep some of schools closer to your size/ability like Corydon. 

I dunno....just spit balling. But if they aren't committed to it long term the kids won't be either and no coach is gonna mess with it unless it's just a way to get experience. Just pull the plug if it's true and let schools get future games worked out. 

[WWFan]

3 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

If I recall, wasn’t Henryville suppose to be coming shortly after SC started theirs? SC left and started their own school corp and it seemed like Henryville kind of lost steam, eventually dropping their youth program. 

This past year the 5/6 had about 24 players. 3/4 had 28. Just did a quick facebook search. Had rosters. Showed a 20-0 win over Trinity Lutheran (maybe they are trying again?) Believe they played a JR high schedule too

[boilerfan87]

9 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

If I recall, wasn’t Henryville suppose to be coming shortly after SC started theirs? SC left and started their own school corp and it seemed like Henryville kind of lost steam, eventually dropping their youth program. 

They were trying to get it through when SC did, but the board at the time didn't want it to happen because they wanted to see how SC fared as a program. Henryville had land that was going to be donated for the field and everything. This was around 2009, I believe. Then the board just said no, without ever really giving it a shot and in the mid 2010s, they dropped their youth program. 

[WWFan]

32 minutes ago, WWFan said:

I disagree with alot of this. WW just had back to back semi state appearances. Brownstown has success. Paoli and Springs Valley had good teams last few years. Pekins biggest problem (to me) is the MSC. They can't get any traction in that conference. If in PLAC they beat WW and probably beat Mitchell and CC. Last few years most likely better then Mitchell and SV. Hard to get kids excited when you ain't beating 4A programs and constant programs like Brownstown. So generally at best your 2-7 going into tourny. They've beaten WW 2 times in history. Clarksville going independent lost them a win. 

If I'm MSC I let them go independent in football. Im sure some of the others would like to schedule others. Pekin can keep WW and Salem. Add schools like Clarksville, Crawford and Henryville (if they make it to Varsity). Maybe keep some of schools closer to your size/ability like Corydon. 

I dunno....just spit balling. But if they aren't committed to it long term the kids won't be either and no coach is gonna mess with it unless it's just a way to get experience. Just pull the plug if it's true and let schools get future games worked out. 

Just to clarify i meant CC not SV. No shot at beating SV since 2020. 

[Impartial_Observer]

9 hours ago, WWFan said:

I disagree with alot of this. 

As do I but I quit responding to his nonsense. 
 

Trinity Lutheran started their youth program back up two years ago. The did field a MS team this past fall. It’s frustrating to watch as a Football guy, because it’s the same crap that caused it to fail the first two times. Unorganized, coaching that doesn’t understand basic football concepts, and parents with unrealistic expectations. On the bright side of things their enrollment does seem to be growing especially in light of Seymour’s enrollment issues. According to the IHSAA, they’re up to 166. In years past while trying to participate in football they had numbers as low as 124 I believe. Tough to field a men’s XC, Soccer, and Football out of those numbers. I wish them well, but I don’t see this ending any differently than it has the two previous attempts. 

Edited December 17, 2024 by Impartial_Observer

[cloudofdust]

18 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

There is a reason that Henryville has never started a program. Salem has more kids than Pekin and they struggle to be competitive. Just not a good area for football. The kids aren't very big.

Who invited this guy...

Must've kicked him out of the HHC thread again.

[Fkfootball]

4 hours ago, cloudofdust said:

Who invited this guy...

Must've kicked him out of the HHC thread again.

Message boards are for opinions.

[Fkfootball]

21 hours ago, WWFan said:

I disagree with alot of this. WW just had back to back semi state appearances. Brownstown has success. Paoli and Springs Valley had good teams last few years. Pekins biggest problem (to me) is the MSC. They can't get any traction in that conference. If in PLAC they beat WW and probably beat Mitchell and CC. Last few years most likely better then Mitchell and SV. Hard to get kids excited when you ain't beating 4A programs and constant programs like Brownstown. So generally at best your 2-7 going into tourny. They've beaten WW 2 times in history. Clarksville going independent lost them a win. 

If I'm MSC I let them go independent in football. Im sure some of the others would like to schedule others. Pekin can keep WW and Salem. Add schools like Clarksville, Crawford and Henryville (if they make it to Varsity). Maybe keep some of schools closer to your size/ability like Corydon. 

I dunno....just spit balling. But if they aren't committed to it long term the kids won't be either and no coach is gonna mess with it unless it's just a way to get experience. Just pull the plug if it's true and let schools get future games worked out. 

West Washington, Brownstown, and Paoli have history and tradition. 
 

It's not that Henryville and Pekin don't have athletes. I've seen their basketball teams look impressive at times.

They just don't really grow up playing football. There is no culture for it. 

[Impartial_Observer]

21 minutes ago, Fkfootball said:

West Washington, Brownstown, and Paoli have history and tradition. 
 

It's not that Henryville and Pekin don't have athletes. I've seen their basketball teams look impressive at times.

They just don't really grow up playing football. There is no culture for it. 

You realize Floyd Central was in the MSC back in the beginning right? They had no culture, nor tradition. 

[WWFan]

Paoli QB Fletcher Cole commits to Oakland City (for basketball). Congrats to him. He's a pain on the court....glad he's gonna be gone but fun to watch. 2 Paoli seniors playing next level as Jaxson Reynolds (OL/LB) committed to Taylor.

[Fkfootball]

On 12/17/2024 at 7:41 PM, Impartial_Observer said:

You realize Floyd Central was in the MSC back in the beginning right? They had no culture, nor tradition. 

Absolutely. And as long as we've been playing football, having a population of close to 2,000, and having a coach that is very competent, we are still a mid-level program at best. Providence just won the first State Championship that this corner of the state has ever had. 

Edited December 19, 2024 by Fkfootball

[BtownBraves]

This is going to have to be my only source for local football talk. Whoever is running the Hoosier Prep Gridiron on FB has some incredibly dumb takes. Talking about IU the way they did after their game with ND last night, especially after the incredible season IU has had, just did it in for me. Maybe they do it for the clicks and reactions, I don’t know.

[WWFan]

14 minutes ago, BtownBraves said:

This is going to have to be my only source for local football talk. Whoever is running the Hoosier Prep Gridiron on FB has some incredibly dumb takes. Talking about IU the way they did after their game with ND last night, especially after the incredible season IU has had, just did it in for me. Maybe they do it for the clicks and reactions, I don’t know.

Do you remember a guy by the name of DT that was a poster here? It's him. 

[BtownBraves]

34 minutes ago, WWFan said:

Do you remember a guy by the name of DT that was a poster here? It's him. 

Makes sense. I remember reading in here a while back that that page had been copy pasting some of the game information to their page that had originally been posted in here.

[PLACfan]

23 hours ago, WWFan said:

Do you remember a guy by the name of DT that was a poster here? It's him. 

This is good to know.  I find it ironic that a page like that makes his posts about high school football coaches that are on the hot seat or need to be fired, and then asks the same general public to sponsor/fund his page so he can "promote" the game.

[WWFan]

1 hour ago, PLACfan said:

This is good to know.  I find it ironic that a page like that makes his posts about high school football coaches that are on the hot seat or need to be fired, and then asks the same general public to sponsor/fund his page so he can "promote" the game.

Agree. I dont follow his page. He is definitely more of a "big school" guy and that's not our area. His coach interviews were always good reads but he can't keep it without a hot take for too long. 

[Impartial_Observer]

He also tried to steal the GID away from TA, which is why he was banned initially. Present management allowed him back until he was banned again. His only answer to growing football seems to be by dropping unsuccessful programs, addition by subtraction……still haven’t figured out how that works. He’s a retired sports writer who think people will pay to read his drivel. 

[Fkfootball]

DT sent me a DM a few years ago and said he attempted to interview 50 coaches for his platform. He said 49 of them called him back. He said the only one that didn't was Coach Bragg. Then proceeded to call him lazy. Lol. Which is funny because I'm at Floyd all the time and coach is always there doing stuff. I have no idea who this DT guy is?

[BtownBraves]

On 12/22/2024 at 9:56 AM, Impartial_Observer said:

He also tried to steal the GID away from TA, which is why he was banned initially. Present management allowed him back until he was banned again. His only answer to growing football seems to be by dropping unsuccessful programs, addition by subtraction……still haven’t figured out how that works. He’s a retired sports writer who think people will pay to read his drivel. 

I remember reading his post on FB earlier this year saying that schools that have been consistently uncompetitive should just drop football as an extra curricular… all time dumb take IMO

 

also he can’t get enough of IU losing on the CFP stage. I doubt he’s logged off since they blew the final whistle on that one lol

Edited December 23, 2024 by BtownBraves

[Bobref]

On 12/22/2024 at 8:56 AM, Impartial_Observer said:

He also tried to steal the GID away from TA, which is why he was banned initially

He was trying to convince TA to “monetize” the GID by, among other things, converting it to a subscription based forum. TA was totally against the idea.

[Irishman]

On 12/23/2024 at 4:29 PM, Fkfootball said:

DT sent me a DM a few years ago and said he attempted to interview 50 coaches for his platform. He said 49 of them called him back. He said the only one that didn't was Coach Bragg. Then proceeded to call him lazy. Lol. Which is funny because I'm at Floyd all the time and coach is always there doing stuff. I have no idea who this DT guy is?

There were actually no phone calls. He had a list of questions and emailed the coaches. Knowing a few of the coaches, I have seen the emails. 
Decent questions and all, but he often tried to make it appear he was doing a LOT more work than what he was. He even asked to be paid by this site for his work. 

[Irishman]

4 hours ago, Bobref said:

He was trying to convince TA to “monetize” the GID by, among other things, converting it to a subscription based forum. TA was totally against the idea.

There was a point where he did try to take over the site as well. 

[Fkfootball]

On 12/23/2024 at 6:04 PM, BtownBraves said:

I remember reading his post on FB earlier this year saying that schools that have been consistently uncompetitive should just drop football as an extra curricular… all time dumb take IMO

 

also he can’t get enough of IU losing on the CFP stage. I doubt he’s logged off since they blew the final whistle on that one lol

The National Media wants IU fans to feel like shit. It's filtered down to the haters. They don't want people to feel good about an 11 win season after winning 9 games in 3 years. It's the equivalent of when Corydon made it to the Semi-State and lost to Chatard and "if" people acted like they didn't belong there. Bullshit.

Edited December 26, 2024 by Fkfootball

[Bobref]

3 hours ago, Fkfootball said:

The National Media wants IU fans to feel like shit. It's filtered down to the haters. They don't want people to feel good about an 11 win season after winning 9 games in 3 years. It's the equivalent of when Corydon made it to the Semi-State and lost to Chatard and "if" people acted like they didn't belong there. Bullshit.

A great season for IU without a doubt, made all the better because it was unexpected. My hope is an 11-2 season was so enjoyable for Hoosier fans that they realized winning is great - and they want more of it.

Having said that, if you want to be taken seriously on a national scale, you’ve got to upgrade your non-conference schedule to something a lot better than Old Dominion, Kennesaw State, and the Fighting Sycamores, which is how they start 2025.

Edited December 26, 2024 by Bobref

[temptation]

On 12/24/2024 at 1:48 PM, Bobref said:

He was trying to convince TA to “monetize” the GID by, among other things, converting it to a subscription based forum. TA was totally against the idea.

Instead you have Girl Scouts like “Ronnie” going door to door and inserting himself into threads and conversations where he has no goal but to derail the thread and GUILT people into donating…

Not to mention the “mods” allowing folks to make masturbation references in threads with free reign…

Maybe DT was on to something…