Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) Back by popular demand, here we go. It's been several years, the last spreadsheet I found for this on my 256mb thumb drive was from 2017. I've always been told that team Defenses are a "couple weeks" ahead of the Offenses in the first game of the regular season. Not so with these blowouts: Week #1 - Games from August 23rd, 2024: Threshold is >35 points win differential. Offender/Score/Victim Carroll (Flora) 55-6 Caston Centerville 54-0 Cambridge City Lincoln Columbia City 42-0 Churubusco Crown Point 44-7 Lowell Culver 42-0 Attica East Noble 42-6 Bremen Elwood 47-6 Southern Wells Evansville Mater Dei 1 45-7 Evansville Central Fairfield 55-17 Goshen Franklin 47-6 New Albany Gary West 38-0 Indianapolis Washington Greenfield-Central 50-8 Beech Grove Griffith 56-0 Highland Heritage Christian 55-12 Covenant Christian Heritage 46-7 Bellmont Indianapolis Ritter 36-0 Indianapolis Tech Jay County 49-0 Blackford Lafayette Central Catholic 55-6 Seeger Lake Central 38-0 Munster Logansport 49-7 Peru Martinsville 50-7 Bedford North Lawrence North Decatur 48-6 South Decatur North Vermillion 41-0 North Central (Farmersburg) *Northeastern 80-0 Union County Prairie Heights 56-14 Whitko Rochester 42-0 Wabash South Vermillion49-0 West Vigo Springs Valley 45-0 Eastern Greene Sullivan 48-6 North Knox Switzerland County 39-0 Crawford County Tell City 42-0 Perry Central Tippecanoe Valley 44-0 Wawasee Tri-West 43-7 Western Vincennes Lincoln 46-8 Evansville Bosse West Noble 55-7 Central Noble Whiting 63-0 North Newton Yorktown 41-2 Anderson Louisville St. Xavier (Ky.) 56-14 Floyd Central Marion Local (Ohio) 45-6 Linton * = Super Duper Run up score of the week. Edited August 27, 2024 by Muda69 Quote
Komets2727 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 21 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Back by popular demand, here we go. It's been several years, the last spreadsheet I found for this on my 256mb thumb drive was from 2017. I've always been told that team Defenses are a "couple weeks" ahead of the Offenses in the first game of the regular season. Not so with these blowouts: Week #1 - Games from August 23rd, 2024: Threshold is >35 points win differential. Offender/Score/Victim Carroll (Flora) 55-6 Caston Centerville 54-0 Cambridge City Lincoln Columbia City 42-0 Churubusco Crown Point 44-7 Lowell Culver 42-0 Attica East Noble 42-6 Bremen Elwood 47-6 Southern Wells Evansville Mater Dei 1 45-7 Evansville Central Fairfield 55-17 Goshen Franklin 47-6 New Albany Gary West 38-0 Indianapolis Washington Greenfield-Central 50-8 Beech Grove Griffith 56-0 Highland Heritage Christian 55-12 Covenant Christian Heritage 46-7 Bellmont Indianapolis Ritter 36-0 Indianapolis Tech Jay County 49-0 Blackford Lafayette Central Catholic 55-6 Seeger Lake Central 38-0 Munster Logansport 49-7 Peru Martinsville 50-7 Bedford North Lawrence North Decatur 48-6 South Decatur North Vermillion 41-0 North Central (Farmersburg) *Northeastern 80-0 Union County Prairie Heights 56-14 Whitko Rochester 42-0 Wabash South Vermillion49-0 West Vigo Springs Valley 45-0 Eastern Greene Sullivan 48-6 North Knox Switzerland County 39-0 Crawford County Tell City 42-0 Perry Central Tippecanoe Valley 44-0 Wawasee Tri-West 43-7 Western Vincennes Lincoln 46-8 Evansville Bosse West Noble 55-7 Central Noble Whiting 63-0 North Newton Yorktown 41-2 Anderson Louisville St. Xavier (Ky.) 56-14 Floyd Central Marion Local (Ohio) 45-6 Linton * = Super Duper Run up score of the week. Thanks for doing this. What it shows me is some schools need to stop playing football 1 Quote
First_Backer_Inside Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 11 hours ago, Muda69 said: Back by popular demand, here we go. It's been several years, the last spreadsheet I found for this on my 256mb thumb drive was from 2017. I've always been told that team Defenses are a "couple weeks" ahead of the Offenses in the first game of the regular season. Not so with these blowouts: Week #1 - Games from August 23rd, 2024: Threshold is >35 points win differential. Offender/Score/Victim Carroll (Flora) 55-6 Caston Centerville 54-0 Cambridge City Lincoln Columbia City 42-0 Churubusco Crown Point 44-7 Lowell Culver 42-0 Attica East Noble 42-6 Bremen Elwood 47-6 Southern Wells Evansville Mater Dei 1 45-7 Evansville Central Fairfield 55-17 Goshen Franklin 47-6 New Albany Gary West 38-0 Indianapolis Washington Greenfield-Central 50-8 Beech Grove Griffith 56-0 Highland Heritage Christian 55-12 Covenant Christian Heritage 46-7 Bellmont Indianapolis Ritter 36-0 Indianapolis Tech Jay County 49-0 Blackford Lafayette Central Catholic 55-6 Seeger Lake Central 38-0 Munster Logansport 49-7 Peru Martinsville 50-7 Bedford North Lawrence North Decatur 48-6 South Decatur North Vermillion 41-0 North Central (Farmersburg) *Northeastern 80-0 Union County Prairie Heights 56-14 Whitko Rochester 42-0 Wabash South Vermillion49-0 West Vigo Springs Valley 45-0 Eastern Greene Sullivan 48-6 North Knox Switzerland County 39-0 Crawford County Tell City 42-0 Perry Central Tippecanoe Valley 44-0 Wawasee Tri-West 43-7 Western Vincennes Lincoln 46-8 Evansville Bosse West Noble 55-7 Central Noble Whiting 63-0 North Newton Yorktown 41-2 Anderson Louisville St. Xavier (Ky.) 56-14 Floyd Central Marion Local (Ohio) 45-6 Linton * = Super Duper Run up score of the week. So do you think that teams should get up 35 and purposefully stop scoring? I understand running up the score past 50 points is not cool, but it does happen sometimes unintentionally. It was the first game of the year and you want to get your guys reps for the next week. In Rochester's case, we were up 42-0 at half. Unfortunately, the running clock can't start until the second half. We started the second half with nothing but Sophomores and Freshman and still almost scored on Wabash's ones. Quote
Footballking16 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 6 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said: So do you think that teams should get up 35 and purposefully stop scoring? I understand running up the score past 50 points is not cool, but it does happen sometimes unintentionally. It was the first game of the year and you want to get your guys reps for the next week. In Rochester's case, we were up 42-0 at half. Unfortunately, the running clock can't start until the second half. We started the second half with nothing but Sophomores and Freshman and still almost scored on Wabash's ones. You must be new here? He's advocated for the last 15 years that teams take knees for 3 straight plays and punt for the remainder of the game once the 35 point threshold is crossed. 1 2 Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 15 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: You must be new here? He's advocated for the last 15 years that teams take knees for 3 straight plays and punt for the remainder of the game once the 35 point threshold is crossed. Thank for reclarifying my position. Good sportsmanship has not changed. 1 Quote
Footballking16 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Thank for reclarifying my position. Good sportsmanship has not changed. Sportsmanship lol. God forbid actual football is played....during a football game. I'd rather they just call the game at a 35 point deficit rather than watching a team take knees for two straight quarters and wasting everybody's time. Only if refunds are issued of course. Quote
First_Backer_Inside Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 5 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Thank for reclarifying my position. Good sportsmanship has not changed. So if we take three knees and punt the ball down to the 1, and the other team snaps it over the QB's head for a safety, is this still bad sportsmanship? Quote
Footballking16 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said: So if we take three knees and punt the ball down to the 1, and the other team snaps it over the QB's head for a safety, is this still bad sportsmanship? Don't make him think too much. Muda's mental gymnastics hurt my brain from time to time. Edited August 27, 2024 by Footballking16 1 1 Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 5 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Sportsmanship lol. God forbid actual football is played....during a football game. I'd rather they just call the game at a 35 point deficit rather than watching a team take knees for two straight quarters and wasting everybody's time. Only if refunds are issued of course. That would be an acceptable option as well. Thank you for contributing. 5 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said: So if we take three knees and punt the ball down to the 1, and the other team snaps it over the QB's head for a safety, is this still bad sportsmanship? No. 1 Quote
btownqbcoach1 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 If I was ever down 35 points and you took a knee against me, I would be furious. I'm not taught anything by taking it easy. Absolutely soft. 1 Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 20 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said: If I was ever down 35 points and you took a knee against me, I would be furious. I'm not taught anything by taking it easy. Absolutely soft. What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." Right? 1 Quote
First_Backer_Inside Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 7 minutes ago, Muda69 said: What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." Right? Hearing the lamentations of their women probably would get my players to play a little harder to be honest. 1 1 Quote
Titan32 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 23 minutes ago, Muda69 said: What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." Right? Conan the Barbarian....great words to live by. 1 Quote
Gipper Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 If it's not worth winning big, it's not worth winning. Well, maybe not, but once the subs/scrubs/JV/whatever ae put in, maybe they're not interested in running the victory formation. Quote
JQWL Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 1 hour ago, btownqbcoach1 said: If I was ever down 35 points and you took a knee against me, I would be furious. I'm not taught anything by taking it easy. Absolutely soft. So is taking a knee in any situation wrong in your eyes? Is there a point threshold that makes it ok? Let's say you're down 35 points and on the last play, the other team still has their starting group in and scores on the last play by giving the ball to their stud RB. Are you saying that's fine by you? Quote
Wildcat1992 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 I do wish some teams would continue to run their offense even up by 35 points. Run it with the JV kids just like you would with the varsity. Let the JV QB get some passes in. Clock doesn't stop so an incompletion wouldn't change anything. Get those guys some reps instead of running 3 straight dives and punting. 1 Quote
Footballking16 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wildcat1992 said: I do wish some teams would continue to run their offense even up by 35 points. Run it with the JV kids just like you would with the varsity. Let the JV QB get some passes in. Clock doesn't stop so an incompletion wouldn't change anything. Get those guys some reps instead of running 3 straight dives and punting. Clock wouldn't stop on an incompletion (in the 2nd half) in a game where one team was up by 35+ points due to a mandated running clock. I don't have an issue with backups/JV running their offense in a blowout so long as they aren't intentional running up the score. You want to run a slant or a 5 yard out to get your backup QB some reps by all means do it, it's the other teams job to stop it. Now running a flea flicker or double reverse up 49 in the 4th quarter regardless of who you have in the game is a no-no, but again that's common sense and happens so infrequently that it doesn't warrant discussion on a thread like this. Edited August 27, 2024 by Footballking16 1 Quote
btownqbcoach1 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JQWL said: So is taking a knee in any situation wrong in your eyes? Is there a point threshold that makes it ok? Let's say you're down 35 points and on the last play, the other team still has their starting group in and scores on the last play by giving the ball to their stud RB. Are you saying that's fine by you? Read the situations above lol .... taking knees once you get up 35 points is laughable. But no, I don't really care. I don't coach the other team. My kids need to stop the other team. I would laugh at the stupidity of the other coaching staff to be running their best RB up 35. 9 minutes ago, Wildcat1992 said: I do wish some teams would continue to run their offense even up by 35 points. Run it with the JV kids just like you would with the varsity. Let the JV QB get some passes in. Clock doesn't stop so an incompletion wouldn't change anything. Get those guys some reps instead of running 3 straight dives and punting. Exactly what we do. 4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Clock wouldn't stop on an incompletion (in the 2nd half) in a game where one team was up by 35+ points due to a mandated running clock. I don't have an issue with backups/JV running their offense in a blowout so long as they aren't intentional running up the score. You want to run a slant or a 5 yard out to get your backup QB some reps by all means do it, it's the other teams job to stop it. Now running a flea flicker or double reverse up 49 in the 4th quarter regardless of who you have in the game is a no-no, but again that's common sense and happens so infrequently that it doesn't warrant discussion on a thread like this. BINGO! Crazy to have this topic/discussion to begin with. Basically, be adults, and mind your own. Edited August 27, 2024 by btownqbcoach1 Quote
Gipper Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 40 minutes ago, Wildcat1992 said: I do wish some teams would continue to run their offense even up by 35 points. Run it with the JV kids just like you would with the varsity. Let the JV QB get some passes in. Clock doesn't stop so an incompletion wouldn't change anything. Get those guys some reps instead of running 3 straight dives and punting. Mercy is for the weak. 2 Quote
Muda69 Posted August 27, 2024 Author Posted August 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, Gipper said: Mercy is for the weak. Yes. Especially in a game played by children. 1 Quote
Coach Lou Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 I talked to some people who were at the Fairfield 55 Goshen 17 game and said the 2nd half Fairfield was running the play clock to the final seconds before snapping the ball, They also played underclassmen the 4th quarter. Quote
Coach Dowell Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 Ohatcheee (Small school in AL) Won on a Hail Mary that bounced off of three players I believe. Final Score 71-70. Both teams were running up the score! 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Yes. Especially in a game played by children. There it is! Show us on the doll where someone ran the score up on you. 1 Quote
Gipper Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 Let's get in the mindset of kids: the last thing you want to do is take a knee and let up. They train and practice hard which goes against the grain of letting up. I'm not saying throw the deep ball or pound if up the gut, but when these "children" get in, they might not want to go soft. Human nature... I'm gonna talk about nicknames elsewhere now... Quote
btownqbcoach1 Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, Gipper said: Let's get in the mindset of kids: the last thing you want to do is take a knee and let up. They train and practice hard which goes against the grain of letting up. I'm not saying throw the deep ball or pound if up the gut, but when these "children" get in, they might not want to go soft. Human nature... I'm gonna talk about nicknames elsewhere now... Completely agree People truly think we should take knees with like... 8 mins to go in a game? Honestly, that's like Top 5 craziest things I've heard, if so. 1. No chance I'm giving up 8 more minutes to teach, sure we will sub the JV in and run offense, but we aren't taking knees. No one should. We earn those 48 mins of game every week from film Saturday, scouting report meeting/film before school, and 4 days worth of practice. Not to mention the summer/off-season workouts. I am not giving up time to teach our kids, period, not happening. 2. Again, everyone should mind their own business. Quote
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