Transfers Happening?

[Titan32]

15 minutes ago, Daniel_Bragg said:

I believe I read somewhere that Juniors are allowed to transfer up until the first day of 1st Practice.  I could be wrong though.

That would be interesting to read.

[btownqbcoach1]

23 minutes ago, Daniel_Bragg said:

I believe I read somewhere that Juniors are allowed to transfer up until the first day of 1st Practice.  I could be wrong though.

what a joke

[Daniel_Bragg]

This is pulled directly from the Board of Directors minutes, regarding the rule.

19-3.2 First Time Transfer Between Member Schools
a. Students who transfer between Member Schools for the first time during the first six (6) semesters after their initial high school enrollment will have full eligibility, provided: (1.)The transfer occurs on or before the Start of Practice Date of the sports season in which the transfer occurs; and (2.)The transfer is not the result of undue influence (rules 20-1 and 20-2, past link).
b. Students who transfer during the first six (6) semesters, having had the opportunity to participate in three (3) seasons of eligibility of a sport, will be subject to a Thirty (30) day non-competition period or half (1/2) the Maximum Number of Contests, whichever is less, in each sport in which they participated during or after their third year of eligibility, during the Three-hundred Sixty-five (365) days preceding the transfer.

Edited May 8, 2025 by Daniel_Bragg

[Titan32]

3 hours ago, Daniel_Bragg said:

This is pulled directly from the Board of Directors minutes, regarding the rule.

19-3.2 First Time Transfer Between Member Schools
a. Students who transfer between Member Schools for the first time during the first six (6) semesters after their initial high school enrollment will have full eligibility, provided: (1.)The transfer occurs on or before the Start of Practice Date of the sports season in which the transfer occurs; and (2.)The transfer is not the result of undue influence (rules 20-1 and 20-2, past link).
b. Students who transfer during the first six (6) semesters, having had the opportunity to participate in three (3) seasons of eligibility of a sport, will be subject to a Thirty (30) day non-competition period or half (1/2) the Maximum Number of Contests, whichever is less, in each sport in which they participated during or after their third year of eligibility, during the Three-hundred Sixty-five (365) days preceding the transfer.

Sounds like the 6 semester language is dumb when they are essentially saying once you start a sport your junior year you have to sit out 50% of those contests at the new school.

Just now, Titan32 said:

Sounds like the 6 semester language is dumb when they are essentially saying once you start a sport your junior year you have to sit out 50% of those contests at the new school.

@Bobref@tango @Lysander   Can we get some legal minds up in here LOL.

[Titan32]

25 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

Sounds like the 6 semester language is dumb when they are essentially saying once you start a sport your junior year you have to sit out 50% of those contests at the new school.

@Bobref@tango @Lysander   Can we get some legal minds up in here LOL.

It sounds to me like kids who are going to be seniors can transfer, but if they have played three years of the same sports someplace else they’re going to be penalized 50%

[Titan32]

21 hours ago, Titan32 said:

It sounds to me like kids who are going to be seniors can transfer, but if they have played three years of the same sports someplace else they’re going to be penalized 50%

Three Lawyers walk into a bar....

[Yuccaguy]

On 5/8/2025 at 6:08 PM, Titan32 said:

Sounds like the 6 semester language is dumb when they are essentially saying once you start a sport your junior year you have to sit out 50% of those contests at the new school.

@Bobref@tango @Lysander   Can we get some legal minds up in here LOL.

I stayed in a Holiday Inn recently....😆

[btownqbcoach1]

The new transfer rule for incoming SRs is soooooo stupid

[CWPRD67]

On 5/8/2025 at 9:55 AM, 1st_and_10 said:

1 to Ben Davis, 1 to Ritter that I am aware of.

The one to BD had a whole graphics package and went IG live on the BD sideline during the Brownsburg Sectional game calling it his "visit" 🤣

[Titan32]

1 hour ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

The new transfer rule for incoming SRs is soooooo stupid

How do you interpret it?

[btownqbcoach1]

3 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

How do you interpret it?

Maybe I'm wrong... but, IF an incoming SR transfers BEFORE June 1st, it's still the old rule, right? As in, if the AD from their previous school signs off... they can gain full eligibility, yes? 

If they transfer AFTER June 1st, they have to SIT OUT 30 days from the first athletic contest? I'm sorry, but that's a JOKE, while at the same time allowing the other classes free ability to move around. 

[Indiana Fan]

56 minutes ago, CWPRD67 said:

The one to BD had a whole graphics package and went IG live on the BD sideline during the Brownsburg Sectional game calling it his "visit" 🤣

What?!?! Is this real? If so, that is ridiculous. Should not be called a visit. If that’s the case, that’s 100% illegal based off of what the IHSAA commissioner has sent out about recruiting.

[Titan32]

39 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Maybe I'm wrong... but, IF an incoming SR transfers BEFORE June 1st, it's still the old rule, right? As in, if the AD from their previous school signs off... they can gain full eligibility, yes? 

If they transfer AFTER June 1st, they have to SIT OUT 30 days from the first athletic contest? I'm sorry, but that's a JOKE, while at the same time allowing the other classes free ability to move around. 

You get that from this?  Or are you reading more from something else?

19-3.2 First Time Transfer Between Member Schools
a. Students who transfer between Member Schools for the first time during the first six (6) semesters after their initial high school enrollment will have full eligibility, provided: (1.)The transfer occurs on or before the Start of Practice Date of the sports season in which the transfer occurs; and (2.)The transfer is not the result of undue influence (rules 20-1 and 20-2, past link).
b. Students who transfer during the first six (6) semesters, having had the opportunity to participate in three (3) seasons of eligibility of a sport, will be subject to a Thirty (30) day non-competition period or half (1/2) the Maximum Number of Contests, whichever is less, in each sport in which they participated during or after their third year of eligibility, during the Three-hundred Sixty-five (365) days preceding the transfer.

[btownqbcoach1]

10 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

You get that from this?  Or are you reading more from something else?

19-3.2 First Time Transfer Between Member Schools
a. Students who transfer between Member Schools for the first time during the first six (6) semesters after their initial high school enrollment will have full eligibility, provided: (1.)The transfer occurs on or before the Start of Practice Date of the sports season in which the transfer occurs; and (2.)The transfer is not the result of undue influence (rules 20-1 and 20-2, past link).
b. Students who transfer during the first six (6) semesters, having had the opportunity to participate in three (3) seasons of eligibility of a sport, will be subject to a Thirty (30) day non-competition period or half (1/2) the Maximum Number of Contests, whichever is less, in each sport in which they participated during or after their third year of eligibility, during the Three-hundred Sixty-five (365) days preceding the transfer.

I have no idea what this says. This is probably the poorest worded narrative of an explanation I've ever seen. 

No, I get my info from two ADs. 

Does the rule go into effect on June 1st or not? I don't believe what you're posting is the category of student I'm talking about. 

15 minutes ago, Indiana Fan said:

What?!?! Is this real? If so, that is ridiculous. Should not be called a visit. If that’s the case, that’s 100% illegal based off of what the IHSAA commissioner has sent out about recruiting.

I mean.. what's illegal now? they can transfer for free... why would we regulate anything else? 

[1st_and_10]

August 4, 2025 would be the first official Start of Practice Date.  Not sure where June 1st is coming in?

[Titan32]

55 minutes ago, 1st_and_10 said:

August 4, 2025 would be the first official Start of Practice Date.  Not sure where June 1st is coming in?

[btownqbcoach1]

1 hour ago, 1st_and_10 said:

August 4, 2025 would be the first official Start of Practice Date.  Not sure where June 1st is coming in?

It's been the date of the new rules the entire time. If an incoming SR doesn't want to sit out 5 weeks, they need to get approved to transfer before that date! 

[23andCounting]

6 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

It's been the date of the new rules the entire time. If an incoming SR doesn't want to sit out 5 weeks, they need to get approved to transfer before that date! 

Sounds to me like that senior might not want to ditch his program right before the season starts. I'm okay with that. 

[btownqbcoach1]

4 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Sounds to me like that senior might not want to ditch his program right before the season starts. I'm okay with that. 

It doesn't sound like that at all. This SR class should be able to transfer JUST like every other class, then start the stupid "30 days" crap next year. 

Edited May 12, 2025 by btownqbcoach1

[Titan32]

It's all in the Board of Directors' minutes from May 6.  Going through it now:

 

https://www.ihsaa.org/sites/default/files/documents/050525 Board of Directors.pdf

[Titan32]

Just now, Titan32 said:

It's all in the Board of Directors' minutes from May 6.  Going through it now:

 

https://www.ihsaa.org/sites/default/files/documents/050525 Board of Directors.pdf

 

 

[Titan32]

3 hours ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

I have no idea what this says. This is probably the poorest worded narrative of an explanation I've ever seen. 

No, I get my info from two ADs. 

Does the rule go into effect on June 1st or not? I don't believe what you're posting is the category of student I'm talking about. 

I mean.. what's illegal now? they can transfer for free... why would we regulate anything else? 

Looks like this is the section your AD friends are referring to:

 

 

[slicer28]

My understanding is that any incoming Senior football player is not eligible for a free transfer based on this part of the rule:

b. Students who transfer during the first six (6) semesters, having had the opportunity to participate in three (3) seasons of eligibility of a sport, will be subject to a Thirty (30) day non-competition period or half (1/2) the Maximum Number of Contests, whichever is less, in each sport in which they participated during or after their third year of eligibility, during the Three-hundred Sixty-five (365) days preceding the transfer.

Once you start your junior season, you are locked in.  You can transfer once for free at any point up to the start of your Junior season.  If you are a multi-sport athlete and you transfer mid-year during your Junior year you would be subject to a non-competition period for any sports that you had already had an "opportunity to participate in".

 

Edited May 13, 2025 by slicer28
edited for clarity

[CoachMack219]

16 hours ago, slicer28 said:

My understanding is that any incoming Senior football player is not eligible for a free transfer based on this part of the rule:

having had the opportunity to participate in three (3) seasons of eligibility of a sport,

Lets focus on the bolded/ underlined section here. Having had the opportunity to participate does NOT mean you HAD the opportunity to participate in varsity athletics just because you existed as 14-17 year old. If you're in high school 3 years and only make a varsity roster for 2 years (for this exercise we'll assume this is a 3-sport athlete that has been on Varsity 2 full years in all 3 sports), that means you only HAD THE OPPORUNITY TO PARTICIPATE  in 2 out of 3 of those possible years at the VARSITY level, which is what matters for transfers. So if this hypothetical kid played varsity as a sophomore and junior, but did not as a freshman, they're considered Having had the opportunity to participate even though they did not, in fact, get a varsity opportunity to participate as a freshman? Their opportunity in year 1 was "well you're in our (member) school and have a pulse so you had a chance!" Idk, it's weird to me but to be honest this whole situation is weird so lets just buckle up.. Lol 

 

Disclosure: This is not an attack on slicer28's wording or explanation, or anyone's for that matter. Just facilitating some more conversation on this controversial topic. 

[Daniel_Bragg]

1 hour ago, CoachMack219 said:

Lets focus on the bolded/ underlined section here. Having had the opportunity to participate does NOT mean you HAD the opportunity to participate in varsity athletics just because you existed as 14-17 year old. If you're in high school 3 years and only make a varsity roster for 2 years (for this exercise we'll assume this is a 3-sport athlete that has been on Varsity 2 full years in all 3 sports), that means you only HAD THE OPPORUNITY TO PARTICIPATE  in 2 out of 3 of those possible years at the VARSITY level, which is what matters for transfers. So if this hypothetical kid played varsity as a sophomore and junior, but did not as a freshman, they're considered Having had the opportunity to participate even though they did not, in fact, get a varsity opportunity to participate as a freshman? Their opportunity in year 1 was "well you're in our (member) school and have a pulse so you had a chance!" Idk, it's weird to me but to be honest this whole situation is weird so lets just buckle up.. Lol 

 

Disclosure: This is not an attack on slicer28's wording or explanation, or anyone's for that matter. Just facilitating some more conversation on this controversial topic. 

I absolutely believe that the intent and wording is meant as "you're in our school and you have a pulse"

Not making Varsity doesn't mean you didn't have the opportunity to do so.  The opportunity was there, but the ability wasn't.