Hemmick Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 As much as I'd like to agree with you, as a 4 year NAIA player, DII is defitinely better. A good example is UINDY beat #7 Marian 45-21 week 1 of this year. I think there are definitely some NAIA programs that can beat DII programs, don't get me wrong. But if you are comparing the top teams of each, DII is defintiely better. 1 Quote
Indiansreloaded Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Myles also plays defense and is pretty solid from my understanding. Could he be converted from RB to DB at the college level where his size better fits college programs? Could he start off at a NAIA, DII, or small DI to get some playing time and then transfer to a larger DI school? This could be the route that he goes to get to that level that he wants to play? Take a look at the top DI programs and see how many players started off at a small school and then transferred. There have been many talented football players from Indiana that had the talent to play at the next level yet never got recruited because of their size. At the same time, there have been many talented players that could play at any college level that decided to not play at all at the college level for a number of reasons. Quote
SIR IRISH Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 1 hour ago, Titan32 said: In Indiana and KY NAIA is better than DII Well, Pikeville just lost to a D3 school that isnt even ranked. Marion is the king of NAIA but not a ton of great NAIA schools in Indiana side from St. Francis. 28 minutes ago, Hemmick said: As much as I'd like to agree with you, as a 4 year NAIA player, DII is defitinely better. A good example is UINDY beat #7 Marian 45-21 week 1 of this year. I think there are definitely some NAIA programs that can beat DII programs, don't get me wrong. But if you are comparing the top teams of each, DII is defintiely better. AGREED! Quote
Hemmick Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 13 minutes ago, SIR IRISH said: Well, Pikeville just lost to a D3 school that isnt even ranked. Marion is the king of NAIA but not a ton of great NAIA schools in Indiana side from St. Francis. AGREED! Marion, St. Francis, IWU, Taylor are all VERY solid NAIA programs in Indiana! Quote
RegionFBFan Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 I believe there are three “physical” traits and one playing issue that may be hindering his D1 recruitment. 1. And 2. Height and Weight: Program has him at 5’11” and 190 lbs. I’ve also read on recruiting services he is 5’10” 185 lbs. I would tend to believe the recruiting services as we know most programs add a few inches and pounds to program. 3. 40 time. I don’t believe he is a consistent sub 4.5 guy based on watching film. He’s likely 4.5-4.6 range not slow but not a blazer. He's what I call a tweener. He’s not big enough to allow for a slower 40 time and not fast enough to allow for smaller frame. 1. Playing issue: Competition level This is not his fault but the competition level is not that great. Recruiters factor this in as well. So much of recruiting today is also the eye test at Summer Camps. I believe he has attended some of these camps and has not received a ton of interest. This tells me something. As we have all seen in the past, great high school players don’t translate necessarily to D1 status. Now, I do believe he should be our states Mr. Football. He deserves it. Kudos to him for this season and his career at Knox. I hope Knox makes it to LOF so he has a big stage to perform on and show everyone his abilities. 4 2 Quote
Donnie Baker Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 13 minutes ago, RegionFBFan said: I believe there are three “physical” traits and one playing issue that may be hindering his D1 recruitment. 1. And 2. Height and Weight: Program has him at 5’11” and 190 lbs. I’ve also read on recruiting services he is 5’10” 185 lbs. I would tend to believe the recruiting services as we know most programs add a few inches and pounds to program. 3. 40 time. I don’t believe he is a consistent sub 4.5 guy based on watching film. He’s likely 4.5-4.6 range not slow but not a blazer. He's what I call a tweener. He’s not big enough to allow for a slower 40 time and not fast enough to allow for smaller frame. 1. Playing issue: Competition level This is not his fault but the competition level is not that great. Recruiters factor this in as well. So much of recruiting today is also the eye test at Summer Camps. I believe he has attended some of these camps and has not received a ton of interest. This tells me something. As we have all seen in the past, great high school players don’t translate necessarily to D1 status. Now, I do believe he should be our states Mr. Football. He deserves it. Kudos to him for this season and his career at Knox. I hope Knox makes it to LOF so he has a big stage to perform on and show everyone his abilities. Probably the best post I’ve seen on this topic. I swear to God it is. 1 Quote
jets Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 OK - not sure this is the thread for this discussion - but for the life-of-me, Knox must be unbelievable at what they do and their O-Line must just be man-eaters, for this (offense) to continually work?!? I mean, the Single-Wing is AWESOME (see Brownstown), but this isn't even really a ball deception/spinner deal. Now, granted, I've only seen highlights - but for the life of me, can northern defenses NOT figure out how to stop/slow down this direct-snap power run game?? Like seriously ...what am I missing?? I'll eat my words come Lucas Oil time if they make it and put it on Gibson Southern, but I just can't see that happening. Quote
Cloudy14 Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 4 minutes ago, Donnie Baker said: Probably the best post I’ve seen on this topic. I swear to God it is. Was thinking the same thing! 1 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted November 5, 2025 Author Posted November 5, 2025 1 hour ago, jets said: OK - not sure this is the thread for this discussion - but for the life-of-me, Knox must be unbelievable at what they do and their O-Line must just be man-eaters, for this (offense) to continually work?!? I mean, the Single-Wing is AWESOME (see Brownstown), but this isn't even really a ball deception/spinner deal. Now, granted, I've only seen highlights - but for the life of me, can northern defenses NOT figure out how to stop/slow down this direct-snap power run game?? Like seriously ...what am I missing?? I'll eat my words come Lucas Oil time if they make it and put it on Gibson Southern, but I just can't see that happening. If you stack the box and try to cover 7 OL and 2 TEs then they get their seam, who is left to stop him from HOUSING it? So then you stay to a 4 man or 5 man and then you have to have your LB be perfect in their RUN FITS, how do you stop that from 3-5 yards a pop? Their OL is VERY STRONG physically, that HELPS a TON Quote
Titan32 Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 3 hours ago, SIR IRISH said: Well, Pikeville just lost to a D3 school that isnt even ranked. Marion is the king of NAIA but not a ton of great NAIA schools in Indiana side from St. Francis. AGREED! Indiana Wesleyan has been a top ranked NAIA team in recent years. Georgetown in Kentucky was top 4 just a couple years ago. Quote
RingLeader Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Upfront they are big and physical, foot to foot as well. People assume he’s just a downhill power back (and he is) but he’s extremely patient finding the crease. That’s what makes him so dangerous imo 1 Quote
jets Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: If you stack the box and try to cover 7 OL and 2 TEs then they get their seam, who is left to stop him from HOUSING it? So then you stay to a 4 man or 5 man and then you have to have your LB be perfect in their RUN FITS, how do you stop that from 3-5 yards a pop? Their OL is VERY STRONG physically, that HELPS a TON 34 minutes ago, RingLeader said: Upfront they are big and physical, foot to foot as well. People assume he’s just a downhill power back (and he is) but he’s extremely patient finding the crease. That’s what makes him so dangerous imo I get it...good players make good schemes - but it just seems like SOMEONE would make them turn to page 2 at least. I mean, EVERYONE in the stadium knows what is coming (I would guess....again, I've only seen highlights, so maybe there is more to it than I realize) . Do they throw at all?? And I'm guessing their defense is pretty salty, so getting the ball back quickly also helps. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted November 5, 2025 Author Posted November 5, 2025 https://www.maxpreps.com/in/knox/knox-redskins/football/stats/#Player Thrown 20 times They were a bit younger last year up front: Another year stronger across the board and now you see the fruits of their off season and in season work up front 2 years ago lost to Semi State to Chatard Last year Regional in shootout to Garrett I predict they get to Semi state again and will have a dance with the winner of Luers and Ole Miss, with dark horse Twin Lakes Quote
Donnie Baker Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 7 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: If you stack the box and try to cover 7 OL and 2 TEs then they get their seam, who is left to stop him from HOUSING it? So then you stay to a 4 man or 5 man and then you have to have your LB be perfect in their RUN FITS, how do you stop that from 3-5 yards a pop? Their OL is VERY STRONG physically, that HELPS a TON Nobody mentions their line. That boy named Cody calls them a one man show. He’s nothing without the hogs. 3 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted November 6, 2025 Author Posted November 6, 2025 would be interesting to Andrean defense who has only given up 11 total defensive Tds it seems (cite max preps) and of those 3 are rushing, 2 against Mville and 1 vs Angola looks like.... Quote
Indiansreloaded Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 7 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: I predict they get to Semi state again and will have a dance with the winner of Luers and Ole Miss, with dark horse Twin Lakes I agree with this. Luers is the best 6-5 team in the State. Ole Miss is big, strong, quick, and physical upfront. Luers and Mississinewa scrimmaged this summer and Mississinewa controlled everything from my understanding. I would like to see Myles face Ole Miss defense who had the best defense in the State last year and is still one of top defenses in the State this year. Quote
miner_35 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 22 hours ago, jets said: OK - not sure this is the thread for this discussion - but for the life-of-me, Knox must be unbelievable at what they do and their O-Line must just be man-eaters, for this (offense) to continually work?!? I mean, the Single-Wing is AWESOME (see Brownstown), but this isn't even really a ball deception/spinner deal. Now, granted, I've only seen highlights - but for the life of me, can northern defenses NOT figure out how to stop/slow down this direct-snap power run game?? Like seriously ...what am I missing?? I'll eat my words come Lucas Oil time if they make it and put it on Gibson Southern, but I just can't see that happening. Gibson Southern is quite impressive, but I would not consider them a lock to make it to LOS. Quote
jets Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 8 minutes ago, miner_35 said: Gibson Southern is quite impressive, but I would not consider them a lock to make it to LOS. Well...nobody is a LOCK - but they are a pretty heavy favorite I would imagine. In your mind - who gets in their way?? Quote
Titan32 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 On 11/5/2025 at 9:25 AM, jets said: OK - not sure this is the thread for this discussion - but for the life-of-me, Knox must be unbelievable at what they do and their O-Line must just be man-eaters, for this (offense) to continually work?!? I mean, the Single-Wing is AWESOME (see Brownstown), but this isn't even really a ball deception/spinner deal. Now, granted, I've only seen highlights - but for the life of me, can northern defenses NOT figure out how to stop/slow down this direct-snap power run game?? Like seriously ...what am I missing?? I'll eat my words come Lucas Oil time if they make it and put it on Gibson Southern, but I just can't see that happening. Just 'cut em' right Jets? LOL Quote
jets Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 34 minutes ago, Titan32 said: Just 'cut em' right Jets? LOL Well....we do the best with what we got. We're not all blessed with man-eater D-Linemen. .....(don't say it....don't say it....) Or, we're just not as fortunate to get them from other schools when we don't have them. Dangit- I apologize - we were playing nice. I seriously hope you all beat MD by a million 1 Quote
Titan32 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 4 minutes ago, jets said: Well....we do the best with what we got. We're not all blessed with man-eater D-Linemen. .....(don't say it....don't say it....) Or, we're just not as fortunate to get them from other schools when we don't have them. Dangit- I apologize - we were playing nice. I seriously hope you all beat MD by a million Not a single transfer on this team from top to bottom .....if that matters...which it doesn't. As we have established before, none of us turn away any football players that move into our communities. Even if they are cake eaters LOL. Quote
Muda69 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 45 minutes ago, Titan32 said: Not a single transfer on this team from top to bottom .....if that matters...which it doesn't. As we have established before, none of us turn away any football players that move into our communities. Even if they are cake eaters LOL. What about the non-football players? And cake eaters? 1 Quote
miner_35 Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 4 hours ago, jets said: Well...nobody is a LOCK - but they are a pretty heavy favorite I would imagine. In your mind - who gets in their way?? I think either Lawrenceburg or Cascade can win those games, especially if they are the hosts. Bus rides can have a strange effect on teenagers. Cascade might have a much weaker schedule, but they are obliterating everyone. Also, they can not overlook Mater Dei this Friday Night. Even without Goebel at the helm, they are still Mater Dei and can play with anyone due to their schedule. Quote
jets Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 59 minutes ago, miner_35 said: I think either Lawrenceburg or Cascade can win those games, especially if they are the hosts. Bus rides can have a strange effect on teenagers. Cascade might have a much weaker schedule, but they are obliterating everyone. Also, they can not overlook Mater Dei this Friday Night. Even without Goebel at the helm, they are still Mater Dei and can play with anyone due to their schedule. Touche- and we will just agree to disagree on this one. Quote
Footballking16 Posted November 7, 2025 Posted November 7, 2025 On 11/1/2025 at 9:00 PM, Coach Nowlin said: Incredible athlete and durable to boot. Pretty Darn good Offensive Line and a Bludgeoning of an offense philosphy. https://www.maxpreps.com/news/iDm__fRsEUaYBIPNMHRgBQ/high-school-football-myles-mclaughlin-continues-historic-season-by-breaking-state-record%2C-reaching-11%2C000-yard-rushing-plateau.htm#:~:text=Myles McLaughlin is the new,reach 11%2C000 career rushing yards. https://sports.yahoo.com/video/knox-myles-mclaughlin-break-indiana-015424934.html Former record holder Charlie Spegal I think is finishing his final year at Butler Does he go the Carson Steele route, Ball St, show out and get options? Charlie Spegal is still in college?!?!? How? He was like 20 at New Pal and that was 5-6 years ago. 1 Quote
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