Guest Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Let's get it started! Final score and why? Edited November 23, 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC FAN Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, jimsinchur said: deleted as not acceptable Jim, I realize you are a passionate fan of your Danville Warriors, but I ask you to tone the smack/trash talk down when inferencing teams that are not named Danville Warriors. I highly believe your mouth albeit your fingers on the keyboard are likely leading to a ban. Just read that somewhere. We are in 2019 ... if that helps. best of luck next year! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhpatriot04 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Chatard is beatable and no doubt you will see new wrinkles in the HH offense. HH may also get one of their biggest playmakers back. He looked pretty good while celebrating the romp of over matched Danville which clearly was outcoached and outconditioned. Chatard and Heritage Hills have history and much respect. This is the first time they'll meet at LoS. Many these coaches were on staff during the epic battles of the early 2000s. They know what it takes to beat Chatard, and to that point, I see HH running right at Chatard and probing for weaknesses. Special teams and the ability to get the ball in Sigler's hands in the open may be the difference. If you want to see a shootout, don't watch this one. Best of luck to both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 31-10 Chatard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCstate Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, jimsinchur said: deleted. not acceptable What are u doing next Friday since Danville is sitting at home? 16 minutes ago, Temptation said: 31-10 Chatard. 49-7 can’t stop the Trojans this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titandad71 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 This looks like a three score game to me, HH has to play a near perfect game and hope BC is "off" . but the game isnt played on paper, and theres no denying the heart and determination of these Pats. Its almost uncanny how HH seems to get stronger late in games, playing so many two way players. heart prediction HH 17 BC 14 head prediction BC 28 HH 6 Go Pats! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilLee Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Heritage Hills offensive approach gives them a fighting chance. Difficult to simulate what HH does and they do it with good lineman, good backs and a QB who knows what he's doing. Plus a coaching staff that can make adjustments. Think it could be if not the best game of the weekend, at least the 2nd best game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Titandad71 said: heart prediction HH 17 BC 14 head prediction BC 28 HH 6 Go Pats! This! rooting for the rival Patriots in this one. But know Chatard is the standard for success in 3A. Sigler is such a special player too. If Heritage Hills wins this, it’s because of this fine young man. Heritage Hills without sigler would probably be good enough to still be at LOS this week. But Sigler adds a whole different level of play. Basically....HH is a 700 HP Big Block running on e85.....The addition of Sigler makes the team a 900HP big block on 118 high octane. by this measure. If Chatard wants to win. They have to contain Sigler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Orwell 2 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 minute ago, DumfriesYMCA said: This! rooting for the rival Patriots in this one. But know Chatard is the standard for success in 3A. Sigler is such a special player too. If Heritage Hills wins this, it’s because of this fine young man. Heritage Hills without sigler would probably be good enough to still be at LOS this week. But Sigler adds a whole different level of play. Basically....HH is a 700 HP Big Block running on e85.....The addition of Sigler makes the team a 900HP big block on 118 high octane. by this measure. If Chatard wants to win. They have to contain Sigler. I agree with the comments on Sigler. Kid is amazing and will be super tough to handle. I think this is the best game of the weekend (admit to obvious bias). Two great teams, great tradition, history, etc. I choose not to make predictions about any game, except, that I do think this will be the closest game Chatard plays this year. I don't see this as a multi-score difference in favor of either team. Hopefully, Chatard pulls it out, but, whichever team wins will have deserved it. If Chatard wins, they will have beaten the #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, and #7 teams (by Sagarin) in 3A. If HH wins, then it will have defeated the #1, #8, #9, #10, and #11 teams in 3A. Nothing cheap about this championship either way. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot 74 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) I will start out by saying the two teams with the toughest draws and the toughest ROAD made it to LOS!! Mad respect for Chatard, obviously they are the team to beat!! Probably heavily favored too!! Love my Patriots!! Cannot tell what a great group of young men they are!! This team has heart! This team believes!! I believe too!! HH 22 BC 21 go for two to win it all!! Edited November 23, 2019 by Patriot 74 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 First off- hats off to the Patriots in getting to Lucas Oil. Way to represent the PAC! Had a group they’ve been waiting on for some time and they did what needed to be done. Now- for the ol nemisis Chatard. What is the outlook on their team?? Being down in the corner of the State- don’t know much about them?? Run heavy?? Throw it around the lot?? I will say if you think you’re just gonna line up and try and run it at the Patriots, you’re gonna be in for a “slobber knocker” of a game and probably a long night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 This may be one of Chatard’s best teams. Very high strength of schedule, yet have dominated every team except Cathedral. HH has found ways to win against some pretty good teams that are also rivals (GS, Southridge). Sagarin has The Trojans as #6 in the state. Sagarin don’t lie in November. Chatard 34 Jay Cutler HS 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC FAN Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Staxawax said: This may be one of Chatard’s best teams. Very high strength of schedule, yet have dominated every team except Cathedral. HH has found ways to win against some pretty good teams that are also rivals (GS, Southridge). Sagarin has The Trojans as #6 in the state. Sagarin don’t lie in November. Chatard 34 Jay Cutler HS 16 Heritage Hills 13 Dray Mason HS 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, PAC FAN said: Heritage Hills 13 Dray Mason HS 10 Well played State Farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC FAN Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Staxawax said: Well played State Farm. Got it Geico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMosbey Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 No reason to clutter the page up with a new thread so I will post this here. This is the 8th meeting between Heritage Hills and Chatard and the Trojans lead the series 6-1. Chatard was ranked number 1 and Heritage Hills number 2 in the final regular season IFCA and AP polls. Sagarin power poll has Chatard ranked 6th in the state all classes and Heritage Hills ranked 29th all classes. Through 14 games Chatard is averaging 44.0 ppg and giving up 12.2 ppg and the Patriots are averaging 39.0 ppg and giving up 6.9 ppg. The first meeting between these 2 schools was in the 1997 Regional, The next 6 meetings were in the South Semi State and this will be the first meeting in the state finals. Heritage Hills lone victory in the series came in 2004, The Trojans came into that game as a heavy favorite and were the 3 time defending 3A state champs winning the title the previous 3 seasons. In that game Chatard led 10-0 after the first quarter, Heritage Hills added a Jace Morrison field goal in the 2nd quarter and trailed 10-3 at halftime .The Patriots had a long clock killing drive in the 3rd quarter and tied it up with 2:29 remaining in the 3rd on a Bryce Pund 2-yard touchdown run. Neither team was able to muster much offense in the 4th quarter before Jace Morrison kicked a 38-yard field goal with 8.3 seconds left to seal the victory, At the time HH was the only public school to defeat both Chatard and Roncalli in the 3A playoffs. Series 1997 Indianapolis Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 21 2001 Indianapolis Chatard 34 Heritage Hills 14 2002 Indianapolis Chatard 35 Heritage Hills 28 2003 Indy Chatard 24 Heritage Hills 3 2004 Heritage Hills 13 Indianapolis Chatard 10 2005 Indianapolis Chatard 21 Heritage Hills 20 Overtime 2007 Indianapolis Chatard 28 Heritage Hills 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedwoodCowTippers Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Chatard 34, HH 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCstate Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 19 hours ago, jets said: First off- hats off to the Patriots in getting to Lucas Oil. Way to represent the PAC! Had a group they’ve been waiting on for some time and they did what needed to be done. Now- for the ol nemisis Chatard. What is the outlook on their team?? Being down in the corner of the State- don’t know much about them?? Run heavy?? Throw it around the lot?? I will say if you think you’re just gonna line up and try and run it at the Patriots, you’re gonna be in for a “slobber knocker” of a game and probably a long night. Who do u think Chatard has been running all over this year, 1A teams? HH isn’t going to scare Chatard and the O Line and Taylor are incredible. And don’t forget a Sowinski at WR. Choose your poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screagle Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Chatard is a different animal this year. Sagarin has them winning 45-10. WOW. HH is a really good team with size and athletes. I think HH is going to be forced to throw the ball more than they would like. I don’t think HH is going to be able to play smash mouth with a Chatard. Hope I’m wrong but I see the Trojans covering. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMosbey Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Screagle said: Chatard is a different animal this year. Sagarin has them winning 45-10. WOW. HH is a really good team with size and athletes. I think HH is going to be forced to throw the ball more than they would like. I don’t think HH is going to be able to play smash mouth with a Chatard. Hope I’m wrong but I see the Trojans covering. First I know Chatard is a huge favorite and HH will need to play their best game and wont make a prediction but Sagarin doesn't make score predictions the 45-10 is John Harrel and John has made it known that he uses his own formula not Sagarins. Sagarin has Chatard with predictor of 100.53 and Heritage Hills predictor of 79.04 subtract and neutral site you get the Trojans favored by 21.49 according to Sagarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Chatard 34 HH 14 Unless, HH installs the swinging gate this week 😂 I'm still pulling for the Pats though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screagle Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Ok. I think the prediction of 45-10 is pretty accurate. I hope I eat crow but I don’t think HH will be able to ground and pound. Edited November 24, 2019 by Screagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMosbey Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Screagle said: Ok. I think Jeff’s prediction is pretty accurate at 45–0. Where do you get 45-0 ? to figure Sagarin you subtract the predictors and add home field advantage Sagarin had Chatard favored by 3 touchdowns If you use overall rating numbers instead of predictor its still 3 touchdowns. Personally I could care less just pointing out Sagarins prediction is 3 tds not 35 points like John Harrell To make predictions for upcoming games, simply compare the RATINGS of the teams in question and allow an ADDITIONAL 2 points for the home team. Thus, for example, a HOME team with a rating of 92 would be favored by 5 points over a VISITING team having a rating of 90. Or a VISITING team with a rating of 89 would be favored by 7 points over a HOME team having a rating of 79. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screagle Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, DaveMosbey said: Where do you get 45-0 ? to figure Sagarin you subtract the predictors and add home field advantage Sagarin had Chatard favored by 3 touchdowns If you use overall rating numbers instead of predictor its still 3 touchdowns. Personally I could care less just pointing out Sagarins prediction is 3 tds not 35 points like John Harrell To make predictions for upcoming games, simply compare the RATINGS of the teams in question and allow an ADDITIONAL 2 points for the home team. Thus, for example, a HOME team with a rating of 92 would be favored by 5 points over a VISITING team having a rating of 90. Or a VISITING team with a rating of 89 would be favored by 7 points over a HOME team having a rating of 79. Typo 45-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCstate Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, Screagle said: Typo 45-10 Cal Preps 35-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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