IndianaWrestlingGuy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 The 2020 team has a way more impressive resume solely based on strength of schedule. It was Top 5 SOS in the country and they lost their only game by 4 points. Most these seniors were starters on that team, so I don't think they mind which team people think is better. The 2021 team only has a new QB, RB, 2 receivers, and two defensive players. The '96 - 2000 era were incredible teams. I'd say the undefeated 1996 might have been our best ever. Hard to really pinpoint best ever with our 100 years of football. The 1959-1965 football teams only lost 3 games. The '62 team was undefeated and won the "game of the decade" 2-0 against Arsenal Tech, the city's finest at the time. Ready for Hawks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, CaptainHook said: Westfield was 6A runner up in 2020. Cathedral swapped out Carmel (in 2020) for Brownsburg (in 2021). CG is a wash. Agree on Chatard and Brebeuf. Uhh Chatard was a top 5 team regardless of class last year. They aren’t better this year than last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Footballking16 said: Uhh Chatard was a top 5 team regardless of class last year. They aren’t better this year than last year. Truth! Thanks for the reminder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Temptation, King & Hook wouldn't by chance be a team of attorneys out of the Indy area would they? You guys would be able to name your price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Dave007 said: 2021>2020>2019 Which makes it a shame the Senior Class can't go out as 6A State Champs. Winning at the highest level could have really put a stamp on this highly talented and battle tested Senior Class. It's crazy, at least to me, they've played the following teams in the regular season (20-22): Cincinnati Moeller Cincinnati Elder ( X 2) Cincinnati St. Xavier ( X 2) Bishop Chatard ( X 3) Louisville Trinity Brefeuf Jesuit ( X 3) Center Grove ( X 3) Westfield ( X 2) Carmel Brownsburg Penn ( X 2) Cincinnati LaSalle ( X 2) Columbus North Yet, they have no idea what it's like to play in a 6A Playoff Game. Edited November 2, 2021 by Boilernation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said: The 2020 team has a way more impressive resume solely based on strength of schedule. It was Top 5 SOS in the country and they lost their only game by 4 points. Most these seniors were starters on that team, so I don't think they mind which team people think is better. The 2021 team only has a new QB, RB, 2 receivers, and two defensive players. The '96 - 2000 era were incredible teams. I'd say the undefeated 1996 might have been our best ever. Hard to really pinpoint best ever with our 100 years of football. The 1959-1965 football teams only lost 3 games. The '62 team was undefeated and won the "game of the decade" 2-0 against Arsenal Tech, the city's finest at the time. Ready for Hawks! Great post! Those 96-2000 team...yowza. Again, I'm not trying to make this Cathedral vs NP, because that's not even close. Just think some of the statements in this thread are laughable or at the very least, very pre-mature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Boilernation said: Which makes it a shame the Senior Class can't go out as 6A State Champs. Winning at the highest level could have really put a stamp on this highly talented and battle tested Senior Class. It's crazy, at least to me, they've played the following teams in the regular season (20-22): Cincinnati Moeller Cincinnati Elder ( X 2) Cincinnati St. Xavier ( X 2) Bishop Chatard ( X 3) Louisville Trinity Brefeuf Jesuit ( X 3) Center Grove ( X 3) Westfield ( X 2) Carmel Brownsburg Penn ( X 2) Cincinnati LaSalle ( X 2) Columbus North Yet, They have no idea what it's like to play in a 6A Playoff Game. Sounds like something you should take up with the IHSAA. Not sure how this has anything to do with the current senior class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Boilernation said: Which makes it a shame the Senior Class can't go out as 6A State Champs. Winning at the highest level could have really put a stamp on this highly talented and battle tested Senior Class. It's crazy, at least to me, they've played the following teams in the regular season (20-22): Cincinnati Moeller Cincinnati Elder ( X 2) Cincinnati St. Xavier ( X 2) Bishop Chatard ( X 3) Louisville Trinity Brefeuf Jesuit ( X 3) Center Grove ( X 3) Westfield ( X 2) Carmel Brownsburg Penn ( X 2) Cincinnati LaSalle ( X 2) Columbus North Yet, They have no idea what it's like to play in a 6A Playoff Game. most likely the state championship was played 3 weeks ago though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Sounds like something you should take up with the IHSAA. Not sure how this has anything to do with the current senior class. Don't be obtuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian06 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, Dave007 said: 2021>2020>2019 The truest of all true statements, anybody that says otherwise is a F’n idiot. please don’t strike me with a hammer @Irishman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Boilernation said: Don't be obtuse. Forgot where playing a tough regular season schedule was a pre-requisite for playing in the 6A tournament? You made the comment, not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, CaptainHook said: most likely the state championship was played 3 weeks ago though I don't know, that field hurt Cathedral just as much as Center Grove. For example, O'Neil looked sharp in the 1st half and could barely plant to throw the ball in the 2nd half. Cathedral's #2 (best DB?) slipped in the mud coming out of a break in a route when the Center Grove WR got behind him for the long TD reception. Cathedral has some sack. They'll schedule anyone. I'll admit I respect the heck out of their coaching and talent. I wouldn't expect them to win, but I could see them pulling off the upset in The Rematch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Boilernation said: I don't know, that field hurt Cathedral just as much as Center Grove. For example, O'Neil looked sharp in the 1st half and could barely plant to throw the ball in the 2nd half. Cathedral's #2 (best DB?) slipped in the mud coming out of a break in a route when the Center Grove WR got behind him for the long TD reception. Cathedral has some sack. They'll schedule anyone. I'll admit I respect the heck out of their coaching and talent. I wouldn't expect them to win, but I could see them pulling off the upset in The Rematch. if "ifs and buts" were candies and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Forgot where playing a tough regular season schedule was a pre-requisite for playing in the 6A tournament? You made the comment, not me. Asking the IHSAA to play up a class is the pre-requisite. Just now, CaptainHook said: if "ifs and buts" were candies and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas Ha! Until I saw how much my wife spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Olympian06 said: The truest of all true statements, anybody that says otherwise is a F’n idiot. please don’t strike me with a hammer @Irishman most recent must equal best? millennial mindset... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian06 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, CaptainHook said: most recent must equal best? millennial mindset... Wrong generation… try again, player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Boilernation said: Which makes it a shame the Senior Class can't go out as 6A State Champs. Winning at the highest level could have really put a stamp on this highly talented and battle tested Senior Class. It's crazy, at least to me, they've played the following teams in the regular season (20-22): Cincinnati Moeller Cincinnati Elder ( X 2) Cincinnati St. Xavier ( X 2) Bishop Chatard ( X 3) Louisville Trinity Brefeuf Jesuit ( X 3) Center Grove ( X 3) Westfield ( X 2) Carmel Brownsburg Penn ( X 2) Cincinnati LaSalle ( X 2) Columbus North Yet, they have no idea what it's like to play in a 6A Playoff Game. Tissue sir? 48 minutes ago, Boilernation said: Don't be obtuse. He's right, stop crying. It is what it is, they go find the best competition, what has Portage and Noblesville done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brettlow said: Tissue sir? He's right, stop crying. It is what it is, they go find the best competition, what has Portage and Noblesville done? Pardon? Trying to determine how having the opinion that Cathedral's 2021 Class could have easily went out as #1 in Cahedral's history had they opted into 6A has somehow transitioned into crying. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, Brettlow said: It's crazy, at least to me 1 hour ago, Boilernation said: Yet, they have no idea what it's like to play in a 6A Playoff Game. Yeah, my apologies. I see your approach to supporting that claim that they could have been #1... I misinterpreted it as you were whining about them playing up only one class from their enrollment numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastpacedO Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 9 hours ago, CaptainHook said: Yes. All of that is forgotten when you score 6. I get the thought process about only scoring 6 against a undefeated (future 6A State Champion team). That CG defense wasn't giving up a lot of points (at least not their starters and many are playing this year). It also is very telling that Cathedral in 2020 was literally 1:19 (CG had no timeouts) and a 4th and 1 from handing CG their only loss. Yes probably wasn't the best play call in that situation (Cathedral RB was gaining large chunks in the 4th qtr), yes the CG defense made a great play to stop the play, and yes CG's offense made some plays to score going up 17-13 and ultimately win. My personal opinion. 2020 Offense has been one of the better I've seen (QB dual threat, RB speed and power, WR's plenty of weapons, O-line very good). 2021 Defense has been one of the fastest defenses I have seen. 2019 was a very good football team also had a lot of youth playing (who are on the field this year. In the end they are all great football teams. I have been impressed with the Sophomore QB O'Neil for Cathedral 170 of 277 passing 2,271 yards 27 TD 2 Int's (I could be wrong but I don't think his first Int came until week 7 possibly). Not as prolific of a runner as McCahill was but runs well when needed. 9 hours ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said: The 2020 team has a way more impressive resume solely based on strength of schedule. It was Top 5 SOS in the country and they lost their only game by 4 points. Most these seniors were starters on that team, so I don't think they mind which team people think is better. The 2021 team only has a new QB, RB, 2 receivers, and two defensive players. The '96 - 2000 era were incredible teams. I'd say the undefeated 1996 might have been our best ever. Hard to really pinpoint best ever with our 100 years of football. The 1959-1965 football teams only lost 3 games. The '62 team was undefeated and won the "game of the decade" 2-0 against Arsenal Tech, the city's finest at the time. Ready for Hawks! Great post. Been some really good Irish teams over the years. The Undefeated 96 team was really good too. Definitely can't forget the 98-2000 Irish, some good players that went on to have very good NFL careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastpacedO Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 14 hours ago, temptation said: Eh, I'll take top 4... https://gridirondigest.net/leaderboard/?time=year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 11 hours ago, CaptainHook said: In all seriousness, what happened with all the out of state games this year? Only one? What caused that? My guess would be the because of the s... show Cathedral choses to put on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Footballking16 said: That perfectly sums your GID posting history. Just catching up.....Did you really just go Pee Wee Herman on Temptation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Just catching up.....Did you really just go Pee Wee Herman on Temptation? Just a friendly reminder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Dave007 said: The defense this year makes 2021 trump. At this point in season Irish have only have given up 83 points so far against the same if not more difficult schedule than we did in 2020, where we gave up 181 points at same point in the season (heading into Section Championship game). You really think the 2021 Cathedral schedule is more difficult than 2020?? 2020 seems like a monster of a schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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